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4-Year-Old, Grandma Attacked By Pit Bull
News4Jax.com ^ | May 26 2010 | News4Jax.com

Posted on 05/27/2010 11:13:39 AM PDT by NoLibZone

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To: Joe 6-pack

I agree. Those drunk driving laws are silly. No different than banning cars.


41 posted on 05/27/2010 1:07:23 PM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: rarestia

I agree with your pronunciation of Tytionna.

Now, how do you pronounce your screen name?


42 posted on 05/27/2010 1:07:40 PM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: Ole Okie

First initial, last name. When I signed up on FR, I didn’t realize that my login would be the same as my handle. I’ve lived with it, and I’m not afraid of people knowing who I am. I’ve got little to hide.


43 posted on 05/27/2010 1:15:12 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: stinkerpot65
"Those drunk driving laws are silly."

Not really. They address a behavior that poses a direct risk to others. Nobody argues with your right to buy and consume booze, or to buy and drive a car...just don't combine the two.

You, on the other hand, would simply ban the ownership of something rather than penalize its misuse by irresponsible people. It's a very basic principle really, but given your remarks thus far, one I hardly expect to be within your grasp.

44 posted on 05/27/2010 1:16:53 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: rarestia
Tytionna

Tie-tee-ahn-uh

Probably so, although I wondered if the "tion" maybe was pronounced "shun" as in motion, which would make it sound like "Tie-shun-na". I don't dare say what my first pronounciation of it sounded like. LOL!

45 posted on 05/27/2010 1:29:48 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: stinkerpot65; Scythian; All
Some things just seem to go naturally together....

pit bull

pit bull owners

pit bull owner dwelling

46 posted on 05/27/2010 1:38:54 PM PDT by zipper
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To: zipper

War Criminal

< /sarc>

47 posted on 05/27/2010 1:41:31 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack

must’ve been the runt


48 posted on 05/27/2010 1:53:43 PM PDT by zipper
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To: zipper
Clearly one of the illiterate, meth-head, small -penised, gangsta, pitbulls owners of which you speak...

...out there protecting and defending the rights of the ignorant, too!

49 posted on 05/27/2010 2:00:25 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack; Scythian; kanawa; stinkerpot65
Well, if you agree that pitbull owners are criminals and predators, my remarks apply to you as well. Don't feel left out.

Kanawa, one of the most devoted pit bull defenders anywhere, and I have gotten into it a time or two on these pit bull threads, but there's NO WAY IN HELL that kanawa is either a criminal or a predator -- I'd stake my oath on it. If all pit bull owners were like kanawa, we'd never see these threads.

It seems to me kanawa is a man who lives the life in which a pit bull has a job that's right for him and the care of somebody who respects the dignity of dog's breeding and puts it to right use. The dog was bred to be courageous and to kill pretty powerful dangers, like bears. I bet that in the pioneer West, the family that had a good pit bull-type critter as a "ranch" dog had a better survival rate.

Like Australian Shepherds and border collies were bred help control livestock, a pit bull was bred to be a warrior protector and killer. He wasn't bred to be a house pet, a child substitute, a source of amusement, a little buddy, or a side-kick to adolescent boys and adolescent men.

You put an Australian Shepherd or border collie in a cramped place with no job, it will go nuts. I suppose a pit bull is no different.

The clowns are the folks who are cavalier about the ownership of pit bulls, presa canarios, Rotts, etc., and they are dangerous clowns.

I don't like pit bulls, I've been scared sh*tless by one and a pal Rottweiler who were loose, growling at me on a quiet public street with not an owner in sight. I made zero eye contact with them, walked normally and as far across the street as possible, and prayed.

I hate breed bans and the thought of breed banning. These dogs are worthy and valuable things, in the right hands. Sad that in the wrong hands, they are lethal dangers.

50 posted on 05/27/2010 2:36:35 PM PDT by Finny
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To: Joe 6-pack
Above and beyond this if you look at the animal rights crowd, they have been licking their chops over breed specific legislation as a subterfuge to establish a precedent for the eventual illegalization of pets, and ultimately all domestic animals altogether. That's an agenda I'm not going to support regardless of how many tragic, heartbreaking stories are thrown in my face.

I stand and shout:

AMEN!

Dogs (and cats) are tools humans need to become civilized. Muslims don't have dogs -- they're "unclean."

I say, never trust a culture that don't like dogs.

51 posted on 05/27/2010 2:44:22 PM PDT by Finny
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To: OB1kNOb

I thought that too, but under most linguistic pronunciations, a doubling of a vowel changes the preceding letters to harder pronunciations. Also, when the black community makes up names like this, they use the more common sh- when they want to make that sound as opposed to -tion, which is a grammatically educated sound construct. The study of Ebonics actually shows that the users of that dialect prefer simpler spelling and noun-verb constructions.


52 posted on 05/27/2010 2:57:10 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Finny
Kanawa, one of the most devoted pit bull defenders anywhere

Thanks for the kind words but in my view...
I don't defend pit bulls.
I defend people.
I do so by advocating for responsible dog ownership....
regardless of breed/type.

53 posted on 05/27/2010 2:58:03 PM PDT by kanawa
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To: Joe 6-pack

It seems I hit a nerve, should I have included a pic of a sixer of PBR too?

Hee hee


54 posted on 05/27/2010 3:16:50 PM PDT by zipper
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To: zipper
Of course you hit a nerve...not because I'm a pit owner (I'm not), but rather because elitist drama queens that would steal the liberty of other people thinking they know what's best, and safest, always irritate me.

Is that you Mayor Hickenlooper?

55 posted on 05/27/2010 3:39:10 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack
other people thinking they know what's best, and safest

you wonna them "liberal-tarians"?

Is that you Mayor Lickenpooper?

56 posted on 05/27/2010 4:07:02 PM PDT by zipper
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To: zipper
"you wonna them "liberal-tarians"?

Nope. Just somebody smart enough to realize that people have a moral capacity and the ability to make conscious decisions, whereas dogs do not.

Well, most people do.

57 posted on 05/27/2010 7:10:13 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: kanawa
Thanks for the kind words but in my view... I don't defend pit bulls. I defend people. I do so by advocating for responsible dog ownership.... regardless of breed/type.

Yes, I know, and it's too bad. Nobody with sense gives a good doodly squat whether a bassett hound or a miniature poodle or a spaniel or a shi tzu or about 90 percent of most breeds has a "responsible" owner or not, except in the interest of the humane treatment of the dog and not having to pick up dog crap, because in the hands of irresponsible owners, those breeds of dogs pose a limited physical danger to thee and me, little old ladies weeding their gardens, and little kids playing in the yard next door.

But people with eyes in their head and brains to compute DO understand that in the case of certain breeds such as pit bulls, Rottweilers, and presa canarios, irresponsible dog ownership can result in severe maiming and death. It's entirely dependent on the breed.

I understand completely that the mantra is "It's the owner, not the breed!" People who cling to that falsehood contribute zero to the prevention of breed banning. It's too bad, really.

That said, I would still stake my oath that you are neither a predator nor a criminal. A pit bull owner in denial that it's ALL AND ONLY ABOUT THE BREED, yes, but a predator or criminal, no. A good and responsible dog owner whose dogs are lucky to have him as a master, yes. I salute you for that, kanawa.

58 posted on 05/27/2010 7:40:25 PM PDT by Finny
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To: Finny

The principles of responsible dog ownership are non breed specific.

The application of the principles varies with breed.

For example:
Maintaining control of your dog is a principle of RDO.
It can be applied with variation depending on the breed.

A 3 foot high fence may be enough to contain (maintain control) of a chihuahua
but is inadequate for the class of dogs big enough to jump over a 3 foot fence.

Principle-—Non Breed Specific
Application-—Breed Specific.


59 posted on 05/27/2010 7:55:13 PM PDT by kanawa
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To: Joe 6-pack
people have a moral capacity and the ability to make conscious decisions, whereas dogs do not

Yep, I suppose the dog was just hungry and therefore decided to eat some people.

Entirely predictable.

60 posted on 05/28/2010 10:50:19 AM PDT by zipper
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