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Megafauna cave painting could be 40,000 years old
ABC ^ | 31 May 2010 | Emma Masters

Posted on 05/31/2010 1:31:34 AM PDT by Palter

Scientists say an Aboriginal rock art depiction of an extinct giant bird could be Australia's oldest painting.

The red ochre painting, which depicts two emu-like birds with their necks outstretched, could date back to the earliest days of settlement on the continent.

It was rediscovered at the centre of the Arnhem Land plateau about two years ago, but archaeologists first visited the site a fortnight ago.

A palaeontologist has confirmed the animals depicted are the megafauna species Genyornis.

Archaeologist Ben Gunn said the giant birds became extinct more than 40,000 years ago.

"The details on this painting indicate that it was done by someone who knew that animal very well," he said.

He says the detail could not have been passed down through oral storytelling.

"If it is a Genyornis, and it certainly does have all the features of one, it would be the oldest dated visual painting that we've got in Australia," he said.

"Either the painting is 40,000 years old, which is when science thinks Genyornis disappeared, or alternatively the Genyornis lived a lot longer than science has been able to establish."

Mr Gunn says there are paintings of other extinct animals right across the area including the thylacine, or tasmanian tiger, the giant echidna and giant kangaroo.

"It does give you a window back to a time that you can pinpoint, and in the case of the Genyornis it's a very long picture," he said.

The traditional owners of the land in the Northern Territory say they are excited the painting could be Australia's oldest dated rock art.

The Jawoyn Association's Wes Miller says the painting is one of thousands rediscovered across Arnhem Land in recent years.

"It verifies that the Jawoyn people were living in this country for a very, very long time," he said.

"People say it, but once again this is clearly a demonstration of how long Jawoyn people have been in this country and other Indigenous groups. It's great from that point of view. It's pretty exciting stuff."


Australia's oldest painting? A red ochre depiction of two emu-like birds with their necks outstretched


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: aboriginal; australia; barryfell; cave; caveart; cavedrawings; cavepainting; cavepaintings; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; macroetymology; megafauna; paleosigns

1 posted on 05/31/2010 1:31:35 AM PDT by Palter
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping.


2 posted on 05/31/2010 1:32:08 AM PDT by Palter (Kilroy was here.)
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To: Palter

The more we look the more we find, older and older stuff.

Makes me think one of my college professors was right. That many undiscovered civilizations lay buried and hidden waiting to be found, to rewrite history as we know it.

He also believed that if we could explore Antarctica, the ground under the ice that we just might be astonished and completely shocked as to what we could very well find underneath.


3 posted on 05/31/2010 1:40:44 AM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

The results would hopefully not be like Lovecraft’s “At the Mountains of Madness.”


4 posted on 05/31/2010 1:54:17 AM PDT by MadJack ("Patience is bitter, but its fruit is sweet." (Afghan proverb))
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To: Palter
Looks like a camel to me.

5 posted on 05/31/2010 2:04:36 AM PDT by MaxMax (Conservatism isn't a party)
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To: Palter

bookmark


6 posted on 05/31/2010 2:16:59 AM PDT by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: Palter

looks like a moa of some kind.


7 posted on 05/31/2010 2:27:23 AM PDT by Hexenhammer (sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Palter
It was a chicken or the guy had one ugly girlfriend! lol
8 posted on 05/31/2010 2:29:08 AM PDT by Dem Guard ("We're Coming to Take You Away")
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

“He also believed that if we could explore Antarctica, the ground under the ice that we just might be astonished and completely shocked as to what we could very well find underneath”

I for one share that belief. Todays Austrailia and Antartica were once joined before the great tectonic separations. While we in north America go back 10,000 years, Austrailia has an indiginous population that thus far traces back 40,000 years. Everything about these people and particularly their oral history should be taken into
consideration because they have a record of human existance through serious climatic changes, 2 ice ages for one thing occuring here.


9 posted on 05/31/2010 2:32:50 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Corps vs Corpse? Why naturally, Obama was talking about the White House Press Corpse.!)
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To: MadJack

For those who have not sipped from the Lovecraftian chalice:

http://www.dagonbytes.com/thelibrary/lovecraft/mountainsofmaddness.htm


10 posted on 05/31/2010 2:58:26 AM PDT by Salamander (You don't know what's going on inside of me. You don't wanna know what's running through my mind.)
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To: mosesdapoet
“He also believed that if we could explore Antarctica, the ground under the ice that we just might be astonished and completely shocked as to what we could very well find underneath”

Since the weight of the ice grinds even the rock into flour, I don't think we would find much of anything.

11 posted on 05/31/2010 6:35:33 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (When buying and selling are legislated, the first things to be bought and sold are legislators.)
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Since the weight of the ice grinds even the rock into flour, I don't think we would find much of anything.

No, he means the giant caverns in the ice that shelter a complex ecosystem preserved since the dawn of time. You know, those.
12 posted on 05/31/2010 6:38:35 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan

Ahh. I forgot about the underground dinosaurs and all that. The caverns found by the Nazis and used for their secret bases.

Thanks for reminding me.


13 posted on 05/31/2010 7:09:41 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (When buying and selling are legislated, the first things to be bought and sold are legislators.)
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To: Palter; JoeProBono; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 240B; 24Karet; ..

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Thanks Palter.

In Horus, a journal published by the late David Griffard, vol II no 1 (1985), Barry Fell was interviewed. Alas, DG went down in a private plane after the seventh issue. Among other things:
In the middle of Australia there is a group of three or four meteorite craters called the Henley craters. They're like the Arizona meteorite crater -- not so big, but there are several of them -- and, like in Arizona, the land was scattered with pieces of iron meteorite. I think the [inaudible] dating very slow growing desert plants. They believe that the date is about 5000 years ago -- the formation of the craters. The Aboriginal name for this area is the "Place Where The Sun Walked on the Earth" -- they must have seen it!
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14 posted on 05/31/2010 3:52:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: SunkenCiv

The aboriginal people of Australia also painted a number of Plesiosaurs...

15 posted on 05/31/2010 4:36:22 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: MaxMax

Yes, it does look like a camel.


16 posted on 05/31/2010 5:30:11 PM PDT by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013- The end of an error.)
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To: Salamander

Cool site. Also check out http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/


17 posted on 05/31/2010 6:53:31 PM PDT by MadJack ("Patience is bitter, but its fruit is sweet." (Afghan proverb))
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To: MadJack; shibumi

Nice site!
Thanks!


18 posted on 05/31/2010 7:55:53 PM PDT by Salamander (You don't know what's going on inside of me. You don't wanna know what's running through my mind.)
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19 posted on 06/01/2010 1:03:54 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker

And yet, coleslaw didn’t appear until 39,000 years later.


20 posted on 06/01/2010 3:43:42 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: SunkenCiv

If yer talkin' coleslaw, what's the main course???

21 posted on 06/01/2010 3:47:59 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

“He also believed that if we could explore Antarctica, the ground under the ice that we just might be astonished and completely shocked as to what we could very well find underneath.”

If anythng could survive 14 milion years with 2-4 km of ice on top grinding on it.


22 posted on 06/02/2010 3:29:59 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine .. now it is your turn..)
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To: Sherman Logan
Since the weight of the ice grinds even the rock into flour, I don't think we would find much of anything.

So how do we know about dinosaurs in North America? Their fossils went through many glacial periods.

23 posted on 07/13/2012 11:54:08 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: Sherman Logan
Since the weight of the ice grinds even the rock into flour, I don't think we would find much of anything.

So how do we know about dinosaurs in North America? Their fossils went through many glacial periods.

24 posted on 07/13/2012 11:54:22 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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