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'Enuf is enuf': Protesters in bee suits outside Spelling Bee want to make English simpler
FOXNews.com ^ | June 4, 2010 | Associated Press

Posted on 06/04/2010 8:07:31 AM PDT by metmom

WASHINGTON (AP) — The nation's capital always draws its share of protesters, picketing for causes ranging from health care reform to immigration policy.

But spelling bee protesters? They're out here, too.

Four peaceful protesters, some dressed in full-length black and yellow bee costumes, represented the American Literacy Council and the London-based Spelling Society and stood outside the Grand Hyatt on Thursday, where the Scripps National Spelling Bee is being held. Their message was short: Simplify the way we spell words.

Roberta Mahoney, 81, a former Fairfax County, Va. elementary school principal, said the current language obstructs 40 percent of the population from learning how to read, write and spell.

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TOPICS: Education; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: arth; spellingbee
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Simple. Educate the kids instead of indoctrinate them and they'd learn to read, write, and spell just fine.
1 posted on 06/04/2010 8:07:31 AM PDT by metmom
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To: 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; Aggie Mama; agrace; AliVeritas; AlmaKing; AngieGal; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list. Articles pinged to the Another Reason to Homeschool List will be given the keyword of ARTH. (If I remember. If I forget, please feel free to add it yourself)

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2 posted on 06/04/2010 8:08:24 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Tigerized

Harrison Bergeron ping


3 posted on 06/04/2010 8:09:44 AM PDT by bootless (Never Forget. Never Again. (PursuingLiberty.com))
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To: metmom

Double plus bad!


4 posted on 06/04/2010 8:10:04 AM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: metmom

Don’t homeschooled kids dominate these things?


5 posted on 06/04/2010 8:10:10 AM PDT by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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To: metmom

So because there are stupid illiterates out there, our school system should be (further) dumbed down?


6 posted on 06/04/2010 8:11:28 AM PDT by Grunthor
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To: whattajoke

They tend to be over represented.


7 posted on 06/04/2010 8:12:03 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

You can only remove my Merriam-Websters Unabridged 2nd Edition from my cold, dead hand ... and my compact OED from my other cold, dead arm.


8 posted on 06/04/2010 8:12:13 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: metmom

Oh good grief


9 posted on 06/04/2010 8:12:17 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: metmom
I swear, I thought this was a satirical article. Public school teachers have been miserable failures teaching the nation's children to read and to spell, so they want to "dumb down" the language, rather than educate to a standard that has been in existence for two centuries.

It's pathetic.

10 posted on 06/04/2010 8:12:27 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: bootless

More like “paging Teddy Roosevelt”.


11 posted on 06/04/2010 8:12:53 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: metmom

phonetic spelling obliterates word geneology. It destroys the meaning. Literate people can tell if a word has Latin, French, or Olde English roots - this adds texture and meaning to our lives...


12 posted on 06/04/2010 8:13:46 AM PDT by olepap (God help us)
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To: metmom

English IS at times a crazy language, but let’s not dumb it down to the level of texting and rap “music”.


13 posted on 06/04/2010 8:13:59 AM PDT by libertylover (The problem with Obama is not that his skin is too black, it's that his ideas are too RED.)
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To: metmom

Maybee thay hav uh poynt. exsept for thuh fact that Ehneetheeng rittin beefor thee implehmentayshun uv this eyedeeuh wood bee az hard too reed az Chowser, thayr iz noe disadvantij.


14 posted on 06/04/2010 8:17:15 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: metmom
Gee, it didn't used to obstruct "...40 percent of the population from learning how to read..."

But now, everything is just so hard and so unFAIR.

15 posted on 06/04/2010 8:17:56 AM PDT by Let's Roll (Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their federal funding!)
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To: olepap
y iz “phonetic” spelt with a “PH”?
16 posted on 06/04/2010 8:18:06 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced, tattooed, pierced, harley hatin, meghan mccain luvin', smoker and pit bull owner..what?)
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To: olepap

Precisely. Phonetic spelling is about separating words from meaning. By defining words by their sounds, you remove that connection between word and meaning.

And who gets to define phonetics, either? Some people pronounce “better” as “betah”, others more like “butter”. Whose spelling would be right?


17 posted on 06/04/2010 8:18:53 AM PDT by JenB
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To: Dr. Sivana

theyr luzrs. (Intentionally mis-spelled)


18 posted on 06/04/2010 8:20:12 AM PDT by rickb308 (Muslims need to check with Native Americans & ask how that whole cowboys & indians thing worked out.)
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To: JenB
And who gets to define phonetics, either? Some people pronounce “better” as “betah”, others more like “butter”. Whose spelling would be right?

the department of newspeak of course.
19 posted on 06/04/2010 8:20:25 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced, tattooed, pierced, harley hatin, meghan mccain luvin', smoker and pit bull owner..what?)
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To: absolootezer0

The ‘F’ key was broken on the typewriter of the guy who invented the term...


20 posted on 06/04/2010 8:22:16 AM PDT by SAJ (Zerobama? A phony and a prick, ergo a dildo.)
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To: absolootezer0

You nailed that one.

It’s what we say it is......


21 posted on 06/04/2010 8:22:25 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
These people probably don't know the difference between 'there', 'their', and 'they're' or 'to', 'two', and 'too'.

I am certain that they do not have a plan to differentiate between homophones other than saying, "The reader can figure it out from the context."

This does not help children or non-native speakers who have to attach meaning to the word in order to place it in context.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

22 posted on 06/04/2010 8:22:44 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: metmom

surprise! That’s what Communists did when they took power.

In Russia, they simply eliminated several letters from the alphabet and re-spelled many words.

In China, the Communists “simplified” the characters, and at one point, on Stalin’s advice, even considered getting rid of characters all together.

Destroy the Culture, destroy the People, remake the People.


23 posted on 06/04/2010 8:27:35 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: metmom

24 posted on 06/04/2010 8:35:39 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: olepap
         A Plan for the Improvement of English Spelling
                          by Mark Twain

        For example, in Year 1 that useless letter "c" would be dropped
to be replased either by "k" or "s", and likewise "x" would no longer
be part of the alphabet.  The only kase in which "c" would be retained
would be the "ch" formation, which will be dealt with later.  Year 2
might reform "w" spelling, so that "which" and "one" would take the
same konsonant, wile Year 3 might well abolish "y" replasing it with
"i" and Iear 4 might fiks the "g/j" anomali wonse and for all.
        Jenerally, then, the improvement would kontinue iear bai iear
with Iear 5 doing awai with useless double konsonants, and Iears 6-12
or so modifaiing vowlz and the rimeining voist and unvoist konsonants.
Bai Iear 15 or sou, it wud fainali bi posibl tu meik ius ov thi
ridandant letez "c", "y" and "x" -- bai now jast a memori in the maindz
ov ould doderez -- tu riplais "ch", "sh", and "th" rispektivli.
        Fainali, xen, aafte sam 20 iers ov orxogrefkl riform, wi wud
hev a lojikl, kohirnt speling in ius xrewawt xe Ingliy-spiking werld.

25 posted on 06/04/2010 8:38:13 AM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: metmom
said the current language obstructs 40 percent of the population from learning how to read, write and spell.

40 percent can't read, write or spell? 40 percent? So if I get a group of five randomly selected people two will be illiterate? Sounds like a dancing abacus needs to protest those bees over their innumeracy.

26 posted on 06/04/2010 8:39:16 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (I am so immune to satire that I ate three Irish children after reading Swift's "A Modest Proposal")
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
Bring back þ and ð to replace th. I want to go medieval on English's spelling.
27 posted on 06/04/2010 8:41:51 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (I am so immune to satire that I ate three Irish children after reading Swift's "A Modest Proposal")
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To: metmom

What other stoopid cozzes arr awt thar anyways?


28 posted on 06/04/2010 8:48:12 AM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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To: olepap

YES - and not only that — the real mission of this “movement is that in a very short time it would render all of English literature UNREADABLE to everyone.


29 posted on 06/04/2010 8:48:15 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: metmom

30 posted on 06/04/2010 8:54:59 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: metmom

Ze drem vil finali kum tru.


31 posted on 06/04/2010 9:04:18 AM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

That’s funny. Where did Mark Twain write this? Have never seen it.


32 posted on 06/04/2010 9:10:00 AM PDT by annieokie
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To: windcliff; stylecouncilor

ping


33 posted on 06/04/2010 9:20:03 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

It reminds me a a science fiction story I read once that I can’t immediately recall.

Gotta think on that one.....


34 posted on 06/04/2010 9:20:23 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

IIRC, even Noah Webster had a crack at this before he settled down and put together the first dictionary of American English.


35 posted on 06/04/2010 9:21:08 AM PDT by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can.)
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To: metmom
Idiots. The only answer is to go to the metric alphabet. Just ten letters.
36 posted on 06/04/2010 9:22:36 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: annieokie

“Although many people have attributed the “Plan for the Improvement of English Spelling” to Mark Twain, most Twain scholars doubt that this attribution is accurate. It has also (and probably more accurately) been attributed to one M.J. Yilz, in a letter he wrote to the journal The Economist.”


37 posted on 06/04/2010 9:33:29 AM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

well, it certainly is within the TWAIN sense of humor.


38 posted on 06/04/2010 9:35:36 AM PDT by annieokie
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To: LonePalm
There are too many ways to spell the word "two" "to" "too" "tu."
39 posted on 06/04/2010 9:49:22 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Liberal Logic: Mandatory health insurance is constitutional - enforcing immigration law is not.)
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To: metmom

Most of us learn English just fine and can spell IMHO those who have problems need to be tutored by their parents or by paid tutors. If neither work perhaps they have some other learning disability that needs to be addressed?


40 posted on 06/04/2010 10:31:05 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: olepap
phonetic spelling obliterates word geneology. It destroys the meaning. Literate people can tell if a word has Latin, French, or Olde English roots - this adds texture and meaning to our lives...

Kemal Ataturk's "language reform" was, in the words of one sympathetic observer, "a catastrophic success." Yes, it made the Turkish people much more literate, almost overnight. OTOH, it cut off their literary connection to a thousand years of history. Which, come to think of it, was the point.

41 posted on 06/04/2010 11:23:26 AM PDT by RJR_fan (Christians need to reclaim and excel in the genre of science fiction.)
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To: Dallas59

No, it’s “double-plus ungood.” To some extent, newspeak is modeled on Esperanto.


42 posted on 06/04/2010 11:24:30 AM PDT by RJR_fan (Christians need to reclaim and excel in the genre of science fiction.)
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To: KarlInOhio

Let’s hear it for thorn and eth! And don’t forget ash!


43 posted on 06/04/2010 11:27:02 AM PDT by RJR_fan (Christians need to reclaim and excel in the genre of science fiction.)
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To: olepap

>>phonetic spelling obliterates word geneology. It destroys the meaning. Literate people can tell if a word has Latin, French, or Olde English roots - this adds texture and meaning to our lives...<<

Brilliant! and so true.


44 posted on 06/04/2010 11:54:04 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: chris_bdba
Most of us learn English just fine and can spell IMHO those who have problems need to be tutored by their parents or by paid tutors. If neither work perhaps they have some other learning disability that needs to be addressed?

If they get back to teaching phonics and language of origin, that would be a start.

Then you just memorize the rest.

45 posted on 06/04/2010 11:54:54 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

And let’s round pi down to an easier to remember 3.0000000.

Dumbing down the populace. That’s the goal of socialists.

Remember nearly 20 years ago when they tried to push through ebonics in schools in the Clinton Error?


46 posted on 06/04/2010 12:04:22 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Throw the bums out in 2010.)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

Yoo beet mi to iyt! I knoo Twayn wood end up in heer sumwear.


47 posted on 06/04/2010 12:52:33 PM PDT by BattleHymn
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To: metmom

Look how well Ebonics went over.

I, for one, am sick and tired of the left diddling our language. Remember when Gay used to mean Happy? A Bum was a bum, and not Homeless? People were Short and not Vertically Challenged? Retarded meant what it said, and physically handicapped people weren’t Otherly Abled?

Of course, this crap spawned a whole bunch of confusing oxymorons, such as Politically Correct. Which it ain’t.


48 posted on 06/04/2010 5:56:45 PM PDT by Tigerized (pursuingliberty.com)
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To: RJR_fan

I never mastered newspeak./s


49 posted on 06/04/2010 8:25:01 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: metmom

Put some ice on it and teach the kids!


50 posted on 06/04/2010 11:54:41 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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