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Woman sues over $300 ticket for parking in handicapped spot
The Salem News ^ | 6/4/10 | The Salem News

Posted on 06/14/2010 5:59:58 AM PDT by Dayman

DANVERS — A Lynnfield woman who was slapped with a $300 ticket for parking her Mercedes in a handicapped space outside BJ's Wholesale Club last March is taking the town of Danvers to court.

In her complaint, Eberle called her use of a handicapped spot "unavoidable," then cited "physical disability and weather conditions."

It was raining that day.

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I bet she didn't even have the decency to drag her foot and pretend to limp when she got out of her car. /sarcasm
1 posted on 06/14/2010 5:59:58 AM PDT by Dayman
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Why is it that handicapped marked vehicles are not ticketed when they choose to park in choice spaces and leave the handicapped spaces open?
2 posted on 06/14/2010 6:02:47 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Dayman

You laugh, but I’ve seen that. They miraculously get better once they’re inside the store.

Especially bad, since my mother, who has severe debilitating arthritis and who uses a motorised wheelchair when they go out, actually needs these parking spaces.


3 posted on 06/14/2010 6:03:00 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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To: vetvetdoug
Why is it that handicapped marked vehicles are not ticketed when they choose to park in choice spaces and leave the handicapped spaces open?

Because there's no law against that.

4 posted on 06/14/2010 6:03:28 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Dayman

Dollars to doughnuts there is an Obama sticker on that car.


5 posted on 06/14/2010 6:03:45 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("The real death threat is their legislation" Rush Limbaugh, 3/25/10)
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To: Dayman

“Mercedes in a handicapped space outside BJ’s Wholesale Club”?

What, her Rolls was in the shop and the Salvation Army Store was closed?


6 posted on 06/14/2010 6:05:30 AM PDT by flowerplough (Damn the middle-class social conventions that require me to mow all those violets and buttercups!)
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To: Dayman

I beat a Handicapped parking ticket years ago. The spot wasn’t signed properly, located properly, lined properly and lacked permits. I even got help from the state DOT. It can be a matter of simple dogged research and a calm and assertive stance backed with the facts before a district judge.


7 posted on 06/14/2010 6:06:21 AM PDT by bvw
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To: vetvetdoug

Handicapped people have just as much right to park in spaces for “normals” as the rest of us do.

Understand that some handicapped people have good and bad days. On a good day they may wish to leave the handicapped space open for someone who is less mobile. Some of them are courteous that way.


8 posted on 06/14/2010 6:08:23 AM PDT by Dayman
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To: vetvetdoug
Why is it that handicapped marked vehicles are not ticketed when they choose to park in choice spaces and leave the handicapped spaces open?

I have a handicap sticker. And I call the police whenever I see a non-handicap marked vehicle in a handicap space. Why? Because the number of handicap spaces doesn't always allow for legally parking in one. And that's why you see handicap marked vehicles parking normally. Too much for you to figure out?

9 posted on 06/14/2010 6:08:39 AM PDT by bcsco (Steven Chu: Obama's chu chu brain...)
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To: NonValueAdded
My thought exactly.

Jackasses like this infuriate me, only slightly more than the idiots who park in the fire lane (blocking the fire lane, as well as traffic) in front of stores while they "run in to get a few things".

Lazy. Just plain lazy. But taking up a handicapped spot is worse, IMHO.

10 posted on 06/14/2010 6:08:55 AM PDT by wbill
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To: vetvetdoug
Why is it that handicapped marked vehicles are not ticketed when they choose to park in choice spaces and leave the handicapped spaces open?

The handicapped marked vehicle may only use the handicapped marked space when the handicapped person is present.

I occasionally drive my MIL's van ... complete with (deserved) handicapped plates. If she's present, I park it in the handicap spot. No fuss, no foul.

If she's not, I have two choices.

1) Park in a handicap spot, and VIOLATE THE LAW (as well as be a jerk). Not gonna happen, bro'.

2) Park in a 'regular' space, and generate stupid comments from ignorant morons who like to vent their spleens on pseudonymous internet forums.

11 posted on 06/14/2010 6:10:25 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Dayman

Meh.

My wife has a genetic dissorder. She is able to work but she has already had both hips replaced and will need her knees and elbows done eventually. We don’t bother with a handicapped permit -too much hassle to get one. We just walk farther. Our choice.

Now, where you live may be different, but here in north texas the innane city and state regulations have created a situation where in some strip malls literally 1/5 of the parking is handicapped parking. Sometimes those are the only spots left.

I will have to see the parking lot in question before I will be willing to consider taking the municipality’s side on this one. I have seen too much local government stupidity and corruption. Point is I dont see that the woman is neccesarily as wrong as the city government is often wrong.


12 posted on 06/14/2010 6:10:45 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Dayman
It was raining that day.

Maybe she had a handicap Hair-do.../s

13 posted on 06/14/2010 6:12:32 AM PDT by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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To: vetvetdoug
I often drive a car with a handicapped sticker, my MIL’s car and her sticker. When she isn't with me, I park in a regular space. When she is with and going into the store or whatever, I park in a handicapped space.

It never occurred to me it would upset someone that I parked in a regular parking space when the handicapped person isn't with me. I sort of assumed it would be illegal to not do so.

Don't ask, it is a pain to get on and off and it breaks if you do it all the time.

14 posted on 06/14/2010 6:14:06 AM PDT by FarmerW
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To: Dayman

I hope they throw the book at this woman. What a jerk. This woman should be made to perform some community service just because her attitude reeks so bad.


15 posted on 06/14/2010 6:14:16 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Dayman

As someone whose WWII veteran father has a tag for and needs handicapped parking, I hope this dirtbag woman is cited for contempt as well as her fine.


16 posted on 06/14/2010 6:14:24 AM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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To: Dayman

Having a handicapped plate or hang-tag has become a status symbol. “Look at me I’m important.”

Most don’t need them and many are just fat and lazy.

The symbol is of someone in a wheelchair, if you don’t need one you shouldn’t be parking there.


17 posted on 06/14/2010 6:16:13 AM PDT by TSgt (We will always be prepared, so we may always be free. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: MrEdd
NC doesn't mandate an absurd number of handicapped spaces. In fact, when my wife goes to the Wal-Mart there is almost never one for her. (She has a placard and constantly uses 3 L/min of oxygen 24/7. She uses a wheelchair if she needs to walk more than about 100 feet.)

I don't agree with the “expectant mother” and other non-legally enforceable parking set asides, but if someone is going to park illegally then I would hope that they would at least have the decency to park somewhere where it's not likely to inconvenience someone else who is less fortunate.

18 posted on 06/14/2010 6:17:00 AM PDT by Dayman
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To: Dayman

20 years ago, we didn’t have “handicapped” parking spots. Now, government uses them to make money. There are proportionately way more handicapped spots than there are handicapped drivers. If there is one handicapped driver per 1,000, then there should be 1 handicapped spot per 1,000 parking spots.


19 posted on 06/14/2010 6:17:14 AM PDT by meyer (Big government is the enemy of freedom.)
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To: Dayman

The article needs a subtitle: A Tale of An Obama Voter.


20 posted on 06/14/2010 6:18:54 AM PDT by FourPeas (God Save America)
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To: ArrogantBustard
(as well as be a jerk). Not gonna happen, bro'.

Thank you. As expected, you have a much more ethical character than do my Obama-voter in-laws who see a Handicapped license plate as carte blanche.

21 posted on 06/14/2010 6:22:43 AM PDT by FourPeas (God Save America)
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To: wbill
I was sitting on bench outside of a Food Lion when a girl with a car load of people parked in the fire lane. I told her I was the fire lane inspector and she would have to move, I got up to to write her plate down when she got in the car drove to the handicap parking (she had a sticker. She walked by and I said thank you she called me every name in the book, I asked her if her mother knew she talked like that, she went in the store carrying on like a loon. I just chuckled, oh she was of the privileged class.
22 posted on 06/14/2010 6:23:02 AM PDT by boomop1
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To: TSgt

The symbol is of someone in a wheelchair, if you don’t need one you shouldn’t be parking there.

Excuse me..but my father suffered from polio at the young age of 3, and has a limp and other problems from that. He has not let himself be put in a wheelchair..he does EVERYTHING he can to remain walking..but he does park in handicap spots, because distance is tough for him. Watch what you say before you lump everyone into one category..not fair.


23 posted on 06/14/2010 6:23:19 AM PDT by SandyLynn
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To: Dayman
I had a suspicion that this was the case:

Eberle, whose husband is an attorney, filed the court complaint on her own, representing herself.

(Her husband's law license was recently suspended for four months over two shoplifting cases, according to an order from the Supreme Judicial Court in December).


Self-righteous sense of entitlement.
I'm also betting that they are Democrats.
24 posted on 06/14/2010 6:23:43 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus)
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To: Dayman
Understand that some handicapped people have good and bad days. On a good day they may wish to leave the handicapped space open for someone who is less mobile. Some of them are courteous that way.

Thank you, not just for knowing this but writing it for those who may not realize or understand. I have been disabled for more than twenty years, I can no longer drive myself anywhere, but when I did, yes indeedy, there were good days and bad days. The good ones I chose to leave the designated spot available for someone else who needed those few feet more than I did, hoping that the same would occur for me the days when really, not having to walk, tote the packages those extra steps made the all the difference.

I do understand the criticism, fairness, parity, "Why should they get ...?" and the like. I have never considered the spaces *my right* or such; I can only tell you that I would give up the special privilege in a heartbeat if I could only have full use of my legs, the strength returned to my spinal cord again. I'd much rather the chore of walking through the parking lot than the lot I'm stuck with.

Thanks again.

25 posted on 06/14/2010 6:23:58 AM PDT by MozarkDawg
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To: Dayman

Fine—drop the fine for parking in the handicapped spot, and fine her $1000 for being a thoughtless lazy beyotch.


26 posted on 06/14/2010 6:25:02 AM PDT by OCCASparky (Obama--Playing a West Wing fantasy in a '24' world.)
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To: vetvetdoug
Why is it that handicapped marked vehicles are not ticketed when they choose to park in choice spaces and leave the handicapped spaces open?

There are only so many spots, sometimes you get to the lot and all the designated spaces are taken (not always by a placard/tagged vehicle) and so the only space we can use is an unmarked one. Would you rather we parked across the street in another lot?

27 posted on 06/14/2010 6:26:46 AM PDT by MozarkDawg
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To: Dayman

Holy Crapazola!


28 posted on 06/14/2010 6:30:28 AM PDT by Doc Savage (SOBAMP!)
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To: Dayman
I would like to know whar requirements the city has on number of handicap spaces outside the store. There is a grocery store near here that has all of the closest spaces to the doors marked as handicap. They run six deep and are usually mostly vacant.

I am all for handicap parking spaces. I thought the handicap parking space sign in front of an Army PX that read "If you aren't handicapped when you park here, you will be when you leave" was the coolest thing ever! Government mandates are a different thing entirely. Governments do stupid things and she may have a point if the spaces allotted for handicapped parking far exceeds demand.

29 posted on 06/14/2010 6:30:30 AM PDT by magslinger (If recycling makes cents as well as sense, I am all for it.)
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To: Dayman

Between the handicapped spaces (no problem there), expectant mothers’ spaces (pushing it) and employee of the month spaces (ridiculous), I don’t even bother trying to get close.


30 posted on 06/14/2010 6:30:34 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: ArrogantBustard
2) Park in a 'regular' space, and generate stupid comments from ignorant morons who like to vent their spleens on pseudonymous internet forums.

OH COME ON! It was obviously a joke! Now what really want to see is some getting towed for parking their rear in a handicapped toilet stall without a decal!

31 posted on 06/14/2010 6:35:27 AM PDT by Onelifetogive (Flame away...)
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To: MEGoody

It could be that although the person to whom the car is registered is handicapped, the person driving the car at the time is not (spouse, son, daughter, etc.) in which case they do not qualify to use a handicapped spot.


32 posted on 06/14/2010 6:36:17 AM PDT by bwc2221
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To: Dayman

Leave the poor lady along, she may have friends working for AIG and therefor is above conservative criticism. Sac off


33 posted on 06/14/2010 6:36:40 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: TSgt
Having a handicapped plate or hang-tag has become a status symbol. “Look at me I’m important.”

Most don’t need them and many are just fat and lazy.

The symbol is of someone in a wheelchair, if you don’t need one you shouldn’t be parking there.

Prejudice, bigotry born of total ignorance. You wouldn't be spouting this garbage if you've ever had to recover from a nearly fatal illness, and could walk for no more than 50 yards without having to rest... if you'd spent the better part of 3 months in hospital, and half of that in a coma and on a ventilator, you might begin to understand.

34 posted on 06/14/2010 6:36:44 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa
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To: magslinger
I would like to know whar requirements the city has on number of handicap spaces outside the store. There is a grocery store near here that has all of the closest spaces to the doors marked as handicap. They run six deep and are usually mostly vacant.

That's my beef. It's not that the spots exist, but they exist in quantities that FAR outnumber the proportion of handicapped drivers that exist. It probably varies from state to state. Ohio was really bad with them, Tennessee not quite as bad. Countless times, I've seen 3 or 4 cars with the handicapped stickers parked in the spots while the other 20 or 30 spots sat empty.

Then we get Florida where it seems that 50% of the drivers have the blue handicapped placard hanging from their mirror.

35 posted on 06/14/2010 6:37:07 AM PDT by meyer (Big government is the enemy of freedom.)
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To: FarmerW
It never occurred to me it would upset someone that I parked in a regular parking space when the handicapped person isn't with me.

No one gets upset. It was a "equality under the law"-type joke.

"I can't park in your space and you can't park in mine!" Just a joke!

36 posted on 06/14/2010 6:37:38 AM PDT by Onelifetogive (Flame away...)
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To: Dayman

I have a gripe about the handicap parking...years ago when handicap parking was first established, there was a shopping area in my town that took the entire side of a building and made it into handicap spots - probably 15 spots. Why they did this, I don’t know. When I went there to park and shop, every spot was taken - EXCEPT for the handicap spots. The first couple were always taken and the rest would sit vacant. This happended all the time there. Complaints did no good. I finally stopped shopping there. I used to run into this problem a lot, not just this particular shopping area. I think sometimes businesses can to over do it with the handicap spots.


37 posted on 06/14/2010 6:37:48 AM PDT by FrdmLvr ( VIVA la SB 1070!)
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To: TSgt
Most don’t need them and many are just fat and lazy.

The symbol is of someone in a wheelchair, if you don’t need one you shouldn’t be parking there.

I met someone just like you in the parking lot of the post office about fifteen years ago, he made a snarky complaint as I was getting out of my car, the front space right at the door, the fact that I could drive and was able to walk allowed him to assume an make an incredibly insulting remark. My answer to him was to pull my hair over the side of my head and show him the two enormous scars from brain surgery, gave him a good look at the third one that starts at the center of the back of my skull, it goes all the way down to the small of my back, he didn't get to see that part; I will refrain from repeating the reply he got.

Not every disability requires a wheelchair.

And some people demonstrate their paralysis is from the neck up.

38 posted on 06/14/2010 6:38:06 AM PDT by MozarkDawg
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To: Onelifetogive
Now what really want to see is some getting towed for parking their rear in a handicapped toilet stall without a decal!

I always use the handicapped stall if it's vacant. Everything is more conveniently sized. They should all be like that.

39 posted on 06/14/2010 6:38:53 AM PDT by meyer (Big government is the enemy of freedom.)
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To: Dayman

If it had been a Toyota instead of a Mercedes do you think the reporter would have mentioned it? All other issues about Handicapped parking aside, this story is a class warfare piece at its heart.


40 posted on 06/14/2010 6:40:08 AM PDT by CARTOUCHE (The game continues. Let them come for me and mine.)
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To: boomop1
LOL on the Food Lion. I go there occasionally....That seems to be where I see it happen the most.

I go to Harris Teeter too - see Fire Lane Parking there occasionally (usu. when raining). But, Food Lion is by far the worst. :-)

People are the same, no matter where you go.

41 posted on 06/14/2010 6:42:40 AM PDT by wbill
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To: TSgt
The symbol is of someone in a wheelchair, if you don’t need one you shouldn’t be parking there.

What about a cane? Can a person with a cane use the spot?

42 posted on 06/14/2010 6:43:50 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: Dayman

She doesn’t look disabled:
http://jalopnik.com/5558342/

I like this tweet:
http://twitter.com/OctaneBoy/status/15861321401

For those not familiar with the area, Lynnfield is one of the nicer suburbs north of Boston. The beautiful people. Her other car in the garage is an Infiniti G35, a nice complement to the Mercedes SUV... I wonder if Al Gore knows about her carbon footprint?


43 posted on 06/14/2010 6:44:23 AM PDT by seamusnh
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To: MozarkDawg; TSgt
Not every disability requires a wheelchair.

And not everybody who wants to use a wheelchair actually has a disability,{except a mental disability) many are just too fat and lazy. using the wheelchair when it was not needed is what made them fat. not most, but some.
44 posted on 06/14/2010 6:49:31 AM PDT by rideharddiefast
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To: boomop1
I asked her if her mother knew she talked like that, she went in the store carrying on like a loon. I just chuckled, oh she was of the privileged class.

I've ventilated tires for less. Nothing permanent, just removed the valve stem cap and wedge something into the valve. You can do it while pretending to tie your shoes. The tire can be reinflated, but the ego deflation is the best part of it.

45 posted on 06/14/2010 6:51:31 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Liberal Logic: Mandatory health insurance is constitutional - enforcing immigration law is not.)
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To: Dayman

“I have nothing against handicapped people, heck, if it wasn’t for them, I’d never find a decent parking space.” - Gallagher


46 posted on 06/14/2010 6:54:03 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: meyer
In MI it is by local community. The store I mentioned is the Meijer's in the People's Republic of Okemos. I avoid that store like the plague. I avoid the rest of PRO, too, for that matter.

I don't have a handicap sticker, but could if I wanted one. My good days far exceed my bad days and as long as that remains so, I won't get one. There are days when not having to walk an extra thirty feet each way would be a very good thing, and walking past a large number of largely vacant handicap spots irritates me no end.

47 posted on 06/14/2010 6:56:05 AM PDT by magslinger (If recycling makes cents as well as sense, I am all for it.)
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To: bvw

And I bet this BJ’s spot was extraordinarily well and properly marked (I know the ones at my Costco are), and that this wench well-deserved the ticket.


48 posted on 06/14/2010 6:56:10 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: Dayman

I think we should all get handicap parking stickers, then nobody would get special treatment. Wouldn’t that be a laugh!


49 posted on 06/14/2010 6:57:27 AM PDT by kevslisababy (It's very hard to earn my trust again)
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To: Dayman
Handicapped people want to be treated just like everyone else. . .that “they” can do everything everyone else can do. . .except when it comes to parking spaces.
50 posted on 06/14/2010 6:58:00 AM PDT by Hulka
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