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A liberal is a conservative who hasn't been mugged yet
6/14/2010 | jaysin1234

Posted on 06/15/2010 6:12:37 AM PDT by Jaysin

There is a famous expression that "A liberal is a conservative who hasn't been mugged yet"

I would like to ask my fellow Freepers if they know of any REAL accounts of people (liberals) who turned to the right after being mugged.

I don't specifically mean "mugged" physically, but someone who perhaps lost a job because of "diversity", or someone who screamed about homeless rights until a low-income housing project was built a 1/4 mile from their house etc....

I just want to hear some good stories of liberals getting smacked in the face with reality.

On the flip side, I wouldn't mind hearing stories of a conservative that flipped to the liberal side because of something.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: conservatives; liberals; obama; politics

1 posted on 06/15/2010 6:12:37 AM PDT by Jaysin
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To: Jaysin
Any college student who is all for every socialist program that comes down the pike and loves obama. Then they can't understand why their first real paycheck is so small...
2 posted on 06/15/2010 6:15:56 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Jaysin
Heck I didn't make it out of sixth grade. A teacher balked on a promise and when confronted basically went with the “what are you going to do about it attitude”. I realized that people in authority lie. And that any promise that I could not enforce by my own means was without value. Living in Chicago the transition from personal life to politics was obvious and simple. Once you are no longer willing to trade what you have now, for promise of a utopia later, liberalism has no appeal.
3 posted on 06/15/2010 6:19:57 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Jaysin
I would say that 9-11 was, not to diminish the nature of that event in any way, a sort of national mugging that turned quite a few liberals towards the right.

I think GWB's adventure in Iraq may have nullified some of that original reaction, though.

4 posted on 06/15/2010 6:20:04 AM PDT by Huck (Q: How can you tell a party is in the majority? A: They're complaining about the fillibuster.)
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To: Jaysin
I don't know him personally, but 9/11 seemed to give Dennis Miller a major smack upside the head.
5 posted on 06/15/2010 6:20:25 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (I am so immune to satire that I ate three Irish children after reading Swift's "A Modest Proposal")
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To: Jaysin

Yes. I worked with a woman who was a flaming liberal Democrat. Definitely against the death penalty. One day, tragically, her daughter-in-law was murdered while working in a restaurant. Guess what? She was suddenly FOR the death penalty.


6 posted on 06/15/2010 6:24:27 AM PDT by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: 2banana

Gov’t oversight of the Oil industry. BP had already had 30 people die before the latest incident when 11 more died. BP’s refineries had 50X the safety violations (97% of the total) over the last 5 years (OSHA). BP had 750ish violations violations vs all the other oil companies having single digits (MMS).

One of many sources: http://abcnews.go.com/WN/bps-dismal-safety-record/story?id=10763042&page=1

This blowout is BP’s fault, but our Gov’t oversight was severely lacking on enforcement. BP should of been banned from US territory.


7 posted on 06/15/2010 6:24:54 AM PDT by revtown
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To: Jaysin

I’m a public school teacher, and a lot of teachers start out liberal and slowly drift to the right. It’s a gradual process and many of them never consciously realize that they are now Republicans, but when you talk to them, their dismay over the demonization of whites, the birth rate of illiterate illegals, the declining work ethic and sense of entitlement of the poor, and their fear for where this country is going is tangible.


8 posted on 06/15/2010 6:25:38 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady (I can see November from my house.)
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To: Jaysin

Bingo


9 posted on 06/15/2010 6:26:09 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: revtown

Where should we drill there hotshot?


10 posted on 06/15/2010 6:27:22 AM PDT by goseminoles
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To: Jaysin

My nephew had his identity stolen, changed him from a lib to a conservative overnight. An illegal alien had his id.


11 posted on 06/15/2010 6:27:48 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: Jaysin

I wish I could remember who, but we have a FReeper here who’s always said that a conservative is a liberal that’s been mugged, and a liberal is a conservative who’s been indicted.


12 posted on 06/15/2010 6:29:50 AM PDT by Melas
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To: KarlInOhio
I don't know him personally, but 9/11 seemed to give Dennis Miller a major smack upside the head.

Dennis Miller has leaned to the right for years prior to 9/11.
13 posted on 06/15/2010 6:37:45 AM PDT by ratzoe (damn, I miss Barbara Olson)
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To: Jaysin

My sister is an East Coast liberal who complained loudly about everything Bush did. Then she got mugged twice within a year (in New York). Interestingly, she’s a conservative on law and order and illegal immigration, but still a brainless Obamabot on everything else. I think she was adopted (just kidding).


14 posted on 06/15/2010 6:41:31 AM PDT by happyathome
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To: Huck
would say that 9-11 was, not to diminish the nature of that event in any way, a sort of national mugging that turned quite a few liberals towards the right.

Good point.

15 posted on 06/15/2010 6:43:26 AM PDT by TankerKC (This is the internet, not a court of law.)
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To: goseminoles

Chevron, Shell, Conoco other companies that have proven safety records can drill where ever. BP has issues.


16 posted on 06/15/2010 6:44:04 AM PDT by revtown
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To: murron

stories like this (unfortunate, as they are) are what I’m looking for on this thread!


17 posted on 06/15/2010 6:46:03 AM PDT by Jaysin
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To: A_perfect_lady

“It’s a gradual process and many of them never consciously realize that they are now Republicans, but when you talk to them,”

Had a conversation with someone I work with. He has been a flaming liberal as far as his talk goes yet he claims to be a Christian. I sat him down and carefully went through the different issues such as abortion, pay, taxes, etc. I told him “you’re a conservative”! His response was, “don’t tell anybody!”


18 posted on 06/15/2010 6:46:07 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (Where is the Black Regiment?)
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To: revtown

Do you remember all of the BP ads that claimed that they were the most responsible, most green oil company? What a bunch of lies.


19 posted on 06/15/2010 6:48:08 AM PDT by killermosquito (Buffalo (and eventually France) is what you get when liberalism runs its course.)
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To: Jaysin
I was a lib by default coming out of college. I didn't realize there was a choice at that point, the whole world was filled with only liberal choices from what they were teaching.

Getting into my own business cured me of that idea fairly quickly. A short series of muggings by reality.

20 posted on 06/15/2010 6:51:34 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: KarlInOhio
I seem to recall that Michael Savage (nee Weiner) was a stone cold, long haired, liberal hippie out of Berkeley when he hit the job market - and it hit back. It seems that all his street cred as a born in New York, West Coast liberal couldn't hold a candle to affirmative action. His world view imploded and from the ruins rose the egocentric conservative who loves to pontificate on the evils of liberalism.
21 posted on 06/15/2010 6:53:32 AM PDT by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent..)
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To: Jaysin

I met a very annoying Jewish woman at a funeral this weekend. She recently completed her medical residency as a surgeon, and is now seeking employmnet.

When I asked her how liability insurance for PA (philly) compared with NJ, she got all huffy. At one point she said something to the effect of “I hate Republicans, but they’re right about the need for liability reform.”

I see a reluctant conversion in her future, though I’m not sure we’re any better off with her on the team. Very annoying.


22 posted on 06/15/2010 6:56:53 AM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (In last year's nests, there are no birds this year.)
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To: Jaysin

A good example is David Horowitz.
Born to hard core communist parents.
Now he is farther to the right than Limbaugh.
Don’t know what brought on the conversion, but that is a long journey.


23 posted on 06/15/2010 6:58:05 AM PDT by Texas resident (Outlaw fisherman)
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To: A_perfect_lady

I see this in our schools as well. The young teachers are idealistic, the older teachers more reasoned. Older teachers that haven’t made the conversion are either delusional, or union hacks.


24 posted on 06/15/2010 6:59:57 AM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (In last year's nests, there are no birds this year.)
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To: Lakeshark

when did you graduate college?


25 posted on 06/15/2010 7:01:41 AM PDT by Jaysin
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To: Jaysin

I leaned a bit liberal, in an unthinking sort of way.

Until I got a job and saw how much I actually got to keep out of my paycheck.

If there was any lingering doubt, it disappeared when I bought a house and started paying property taxes.

There’s a reason that leftistism is prevalent in those who aren’t actually paying any of its bills.

But that just got me to see that liberalism was an abject failure.

What made me a conservative, (who, more accurately), was Ronald Reagan.


26 posted on 06/15/2010 7:01:58 AM PDT by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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It's more where I went. I transferred from a small university (Lehigh) and finished at Boston University.

I actually took classes from Howard Zinn.......

I actually think that helped in the long run.

27 posted on 06/15/2010 7:11:19 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Texas resident
Don’t know what brought on the [David Horowitz] conversion, but that is a long journey.

He tells you what happened in Radical Son which I consider to be one of the best autobiographies ever written.

28 posted on 06/15/2010 7:20:51 AM PDT by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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To: ConservativeWarrior
Older teachers that haven’t made the conversion are either delusional, or union hacks (or both).
29 posted on 06/15/2010 7:22:12 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( - Free Men will always be armed with the Truth. -)
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To: Jaysin
"A liberal is a conservative who hasn't been mugged yet"

And a Progressive is a mugger

30 posted on 06/15/2010 7:23:49 AM PDT by tophat9000 (.............................. BP + BO = BS ...........................Formula for a disaster...)
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To: Lakeshark

I’m surprised you didn’t have to go through therapy after dealing with that loon Zinn, considering his revisionist ideas of American history.


31 posted on 06/15/2010 7:26:04 AM PDT by princeofdarkness ("Obama Lied. Liberty, Morality, and Prosperity Died.")
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To: princeofdarkness
He was so over the top crazy, it helped me run as far and as quickly as possible from his ideas.

I think he came to class stoned, plus it was rumored that lot of the not so smart girls got A's for their efforts........

He was really popular with a lot of students, his anti-America schtick sold well.

I think that's still common at most campuses.

32 posted on 06/15/2010 7:33:35 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Lakeshark

I was a lib by default going into college. Was rankled by the plethora of posters and notices for the Affirmative Action stuff - got into a bit of an argument or two in a class or two. Couldn’t see why holding me and other young, white males back today was the right way to compensate for non-white, non-males being held back a decade ago. Took up “Affirmative Action; poisoning the future to correct the past” as my mantra.


33 posted on 06/15/2010 7:35:26 AM PDT by flowerplough (Damn the middle-class social conventions that require me to mow all those violets and buttercups!)
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To: Jaysin

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/letter_of_amends_from_a_recove.html

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/how_to_deprogram_a_liberal_in.html


34 posted on 06/15/2010 9:39:58 AM PDT by Eddings
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To: Melas
a liberal is a conservative who’s been indicted.

Or just received a government grant! LOL!

35 posted on 06/15/2010 9:42:27 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Auntie Mame
David Horowitz's...He tells you what happened in Radical Son which I consider to be one of the best autobiographies ever written.

Bump Radical Son..Hand it to a liberal who is willing to read it.

36 posted on 06/15/2010 9:48:06 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Jaysin
For posterity:

“If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain.”

-Winston Churchill

37 posted on 06/15/2010 9:52:52 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Texas resident

IIRC his transformation was started by the murder of a friend by the Black Panthers, whom he had supported up to that time.


38 posted on 06/15/2010 10:05:58 AM PDT by crusher (Political Correctness: Stalinism Without the Charm)
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To: vanilla swirl

Some of us are just trying to get by. ;)


39 posted on 06/15/2010 10:45:31 AM PDT by BenKenobi (I want to hear more about Sam! Samwise the stouthearted!)
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