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End Game, Gold Investors Will be Destroyed
Market Oracle ^ | June 15, 2010 | Shelby H. Moore

Posted on 06/15/2010 5:08:26 PM PDT by Errant

"...there is a group of elite (the leaders of the banksters wolfpack) who control the majority of the world's gold, and they are above the law and do not pay taxes, because they print our money and they make our laws. They were adding to their enormous historical gold hoard at the bottom in price, when they ordered the Central Bank to sell and lease it. I am not referring to the people we see on TV, but the untouchables such as Rockefellers and Rothschilds, who are at the highest levels. Note I am not making a specific allegation against any person or family, just using those names since many people associate them with the inner elite circle. Rothschild wrote, "he who owns the gold, makes the rules". I will add to that, "he who owns the most gold, doesn't pay taxes, because he makes the rules"..."

"...I am not arguing that we should not retain some physical gold+silver for small time bartering and for insurance against other possible outcomes and if necessary to physically escape some war of fascist environment. I am arguing that we should not have our entire networth in physical metals and those hoarding metals hoping to become super-rich are in the words of a Treasury official, "going to have their arms burned up to their armpits..."

(Excerpt) Read more at marketoracle.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Society
KEYWORDS: collapse; economy; gold; silver
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1 posted on 06/15/2010 5:08:26 PM PDT by Errant
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To: Errant
End Game, Gold Investors Will be Destroyed

Tell that to China.

2 posted on 06/15/2010 5:10:24 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Errant

Well, I have heard that the amount of physical gold is far far less than the amount of paper gold issued. Thus $5,000-10,000.00 Gold is possible.


3 posted on 06/15/2010 5:10:44 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: Errant

only if you keep holding it...if one took profit right now,it would be a great investment...


4 posted on 06/15/2010 5:13:29 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Errant

When it hits the fan, you can’t eat gold.


5 posted on 06/15/2010 5:13:54 PM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: Errant
'"going to have their arms burned up to their armpits...""

Do you think that quote is a metaphor or is the government going to impose draconian torture techniques on those trying to game the system?

6 posted on 06/15/2010 5:14:15 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Even the earth is bipolar.)
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To: LukeL
Well, I have heard that the amount of physical gold is far far less than the amount of paper gold issued. Thus $5,000-10,000.00 Gold is possible.

Yes,,, but if we get to that point, there will be nothing that gold can buy that lead can't.

7 posted on 06/15/2010 5:15:01 PM PDT by 2aberro
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To: 2aberro

Yes,,, but if we get to that point, there will be nothing gold can buy that lead can’t......... do over........


8 posted on 06/15/2010 5:17:33 PM PDT by 2aberro
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To: bgill

Whereas you can eat federal reserve notes, stocks, bonds, commercial real estate...


9 posted on 06/15/2010 5:17:37 PM PDT by farmguy
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To: bgill
When it hits the fan, you can’t eat gold.

Please describe to me the historical incidents where a person in a society where some food was available, and who had gold, starved to death.

10 posted on 06/15/2010 5:18:17 PM PDT by ikka
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To: Errant

I feel as if there is nowhere to hide. What if the stock market collapses along with the dollar, this guy is saying gold will be no hedge and the barter system will also collapse. Then if Bambi and the Dims are not stopped, owning land and personal property would do no good, since anything could be seized (after your ammunition runs out...).


11 posted on 06/15/2010 5:18:55 PM PDT by GnuHere
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To: bgill

you can’t eat the piece of paper you called money either. Gold is a medium of exchange like that piece of paper you called money


12 posted on 06/15/2010 5:21:10 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: ikka; bgill

Fine, if you want to give Achmed down at the 7-Eleven a one ounce Kruggerand for a loaf of bread........cause that’s exactly what would be demanded.


13 posted on 06/15/2010 5:21:13 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (It's not the Obama Administration....it's the "Obama Regime".)
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To: 2aberro

I don’t have anywhere near as much gold as I do silver, which I prefer, and which is still very affordable. I’ve even thought of trading my gold for junk silver.


14 posted on 06/15/2010 5:21:15 PM PDT by redhead (BP Gulf Blowout Debacle: Obama's CHERNOBYL.)
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To: bgill

>> When it hits the fan, you can’t eat gold.

They tell me you can buy suits with it, though.

One suit, one ounce of gold. It’s been that way since, like the *ice age* or something.

I’m looking to put my money into dirt. You can grow vegetables in dirt, or you can grow grass in dirt and feed it to grass-eating animals, and grass eating animals are the primary raw ingredient in steak, and I like to eat steak. So I’m buying dirt.


15 posted on 06/15/2010 5:21:34 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Eat more spinach! Make Green Jobs for America!)
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To: Errant

Gold is money, fiat is a paper promise backed up by other paper. Gold cannot be destroyed. Paper money will be, especially by those who cannot keep their fingers off the printing press “on” button.

I just bought a 100 trillion dollar bank note from Zimbabwe. I paid $4 for it on eBay. There are plenty still listed. (search “zimbabwe trillion dollar”) It was not too many years ago when this number of Zimbabwean dollars would represent the entire GDP of the country. What replaced it? The US dollar, Euros and gold.


16 posted on 06/15/2010 5:22:44 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: GnuHere
What if the stock market collapses along with the dollar, this guy is saying gold will be no hedge and the barter system will also collapse.

I'd say the guy must never have been to BARTERTOWN.

17 posted on 06/15/2010 5:23:43 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: Errant

As a survivalist would view-gold would be used for the big items and silver would be traded for the daily common items.

So gold IMO although is very very good, it should be viewed as a investment item, whereas silver as a item for trade.
Of course if some would like to continue to purchase big ticket items then Gold is the answer.


18 posted on 06/15/2010 5:23:55 PM PDT by crz
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To: bgill

In Zimbabwe, where most certainly the SHTF, only gold will get you food and supplies for the day.


19 posted on 06/15/2010 5:25:03 PM PDT by GregoryFul
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To: Errant
If Little Timmy Geithner (Treasury) is telling you Gold is a Bad Deal, you draw your own conclusions. Obama wants you out of gold. Isn't that all you need to know?
20 posted on 06/15/2010 5:25:11 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: bgill
no but you can trade it for something that others will give you in order to buy food.

I have also heavily invested in brass & lead so I might be able to influence people to my way of thinking.

21 posted on 06/15/2010 5:27:08 PM PDT by 23 Everest (Zero, Glittering Jewel of Colossal Ignorance. Day 57)
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To: GregoryFul
In Zimbabwe, where most certainly the SHTF, only gold will get you food and supplies for the day

Oh, and guns would not???? Or are they illegal there????

22 posted on 06/15/2010 5:29:01 PM PDT by 2aberro
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To: ikka

That’s in the past.

Things are different now. No rules, no ethics, no morals
stand in the way of these &*%#@$* dim fatcats.

Look what’s happened in LESS THEN ONE YEAR!


23 posted on 06/15/2010 5:31:31 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS... taxes, pain and slow death. Is this what you want?)
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To: 2aberro

So you are willing to shoot someone to take their food?


24 posted on 06/15/2010 5:31:52 PM PDT by farmguy
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To: bgill
When it hits the fan, you can’t eat gold.

Lots of things you can't eat.....Cars, Houses, Oil, Dollar Bills......Whats your point?

25 posted on 06/15/2010 5:32:42 PM PDT by Fred911 (YOU GET WHAT YOU ACCEPT)
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To: Nervous Tick

I like the way you think.


26 posted on 06/15/2010 5:32:51 PM PDT by Anvilhead (Dammit Jim, I'm an American not an American't.)
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To: GnuHere
I feel as if there is nowhere to hide.

I think you're probably right. Even if you could find a hide, you'd live in fear of being discovered for years while scrounging for necessities.

Like minded people are going to have to come together and fight. If we can't hold the USA then we will be forced to retreat to a section of the country where we can put up a fight and began recovering our country and freedom loving way of life.

What I've done is to own some gold and silver, acquire foods that can be stored for long term, collect tools that would protect life, tools and utensils that make it possible to survive, adequate clothing, bedding and portable shelter.

I’m sorry, but I don’t see how we can avoid some really bad times though I hope I’m wrong.

Learn, get in shape, acquire and diversify assets...

27 posted on 06/15/2010 5:36:35 PM PDT by Errant
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To: farmguy
So you are willing to shoot someone to take their food?

Only if they work for Obama......./s

no,,, but .22 ammo is better than gold. Yes, it can be traded for food........... which I grow and kill.

28 posted on 06/15/2010 5:37:40 PM PDT by 2aberro
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To: ikka
Please describe to me the historical incidents where a person in a society where some food was available, and who had gold, starved to death.

The Twilight Zone: The Rip Van Winkle Caper Part 3

29 posted on 06/15/2010 5:38:22 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: 2aberro

good reply


30 posted on 06/15/2010 5:38:54 PM PDT by farmguy
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To: ErnBatavia

Sorry, I am asking for concrete historical facts - not snide, useless opinions from anonymous posters on the Internet.


31 posted on 06/15/2010 5:42:06 PM PDT by ikka
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To: Sawdring

I remember that one.


32 posted on 06/15/2010 5:43:50 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Even the earth is bipolar.)
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To: Sawdring
Did you jut respond to my request for actual history, with a link to a TV show ?

Is it "Special Olympics" night on FR or something?

33 posted on 06/15/2010 5:44:10 PM PDT by ikka
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To: Errant
"Note I am not making a specific allegation against any person or family"

When you do, get back to me.

34 posted on 06/15/2010 5:44:48 PM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: ErnBatavia
Fine, if you want to give Achmed down at the 7-Eleven a one ounce Kruggerand for a loaf of bread........cause that’s exactly what would be demanded.

That is exactly what will happen.

If we get to the "dooms day" scenario where gold is supposed to be what you want to have, food, fuel, etc are going to become rare relatively quickly. I can see it taking at most a year or so for current stockpiles to be plundered, consumed, or destroyed. Gold will buy surprisingly less and less in the end.

At best, it will delay the inevitable. Bullets and guns are a better investment. One bullet will grow in value, not go down.

35 posted on 06/15/2010 5:46:09 PM PDT by SteamShovel (If the RAT party is for Hippies, the "Tea Party" is for "Teapies".)
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To: UCANSEE2

Is that very far from FUNKY TOWN??
‘Cause if they were close together, that would be fairly cool.


36 posted on 06/15/2010 5:46:56 PM PDT by GnuHere
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To: ikka
Please describe to me the historical incidents where a person in a society where some food was available, and who had gold an AK47, starved to death

the folks with the gold had better have a weapon also... Obama will not protect them.

37 posted on 06/15/2010 5:48:38 PM PDT by 2aberro
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To: farmguy

You can’t eat bullets either... but you’ll survive quite well if you have some guns and ammo and a willingness to kill, if necessary.


38 posted on 06/15/2010 5:51:17 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: LukeL

“Well, I have heard that the amount of physical gold is far far less than the amount of paper gold issued. Thus $5,000-10,000.00 Gold is possible.”

>>IF<< you analyze gold’s potential in that one dimension. Even higher, really, compared to the amount of money or gold shares “printed”.

Beware, however, of confining your thinking to only that one single dimension. There is no rule that states that reality must confrom to logic!


39 posted on 06/15/2010 5:51:42 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (The United States has become a kakistocracy. Look it up if you doubt it.)
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To: gogogodzilla

Think you will be the only one with a gun?


40 posted on 06/15/2010 5:52:21 PM PDT by farmguy
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To: UCANSEE2

Master Blaster rule Bartertown!


41 posted on 06/15/2010 5:53:07 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: Errant

That is what I see as the worst case - personal defense and provisions, survival skills, secession, etc. Just ugly things (well, they would be hard for me). Where is my govt issued unicorn farm and 6-figure job?? Oh yeah, I’m in the wrong party...


42 posted on 06/15/2010 5:54:03 PM PDT by GnuHere
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To: farmguy

Nope. You just wait for the others to shoot it out, then when the survivor start to either recover... or loot, then you shoot ‘em.

That’s the time they’ll least expect it.


43 posted on 06/15/2010 5:54:36 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
There is no rule that states that reality must conform to logic!

True statement... just look at the stock market fools........

44 posted on 06/15/2010 5:55:13 PM PDT by 2aberro
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To: jiggyboy

Ping


45 posted on 06/15/2010 5:55:22 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: GregoryFul

And then the guys with guns, ie: paramilitary or military groups, then take it from you.


46 posted on 06/15/2010 5:55:56 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: farmguy

So you are willing to shoot someone because they are food?


47 posted on 06/15/2010 5:55:56 PM PDT by SwedeBoy2
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To: SwedeBoy2
So you are willing to shoot someone because they are food?

thats a little out there,, ah?

48 posted on 06/15/2010 5:58:16 PM PDT by 2aberro
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To: ikka; bgill
not snide, useless opinions from anonymous posters on the Internet.

Sure, dickhead....then why do you post your obviously kneejerk-low IQ on the internet? This is a forum, and you've been here a long time; I'm surprised you still haven't gotten the grasp.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, keep clinking those stupidly expensive G. Gordon Liddy baubles thinking they'll save your sorry ass down the line. Achmed will own all of 'em at your first hunger pang, fool.

49 posted on 06/15/2010 5:59:00 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (It's not the Obama Administration....it's the "Obama Regime".)
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To: farmguy

Lessons from History:

A Lone Stationary Target has a hard time surviving against an Agressive Mobile Group.

(Sieges always end Badly)


50 posted on 06/15/2010 6:00:25 PM PDT by SwedeBoy2
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