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Riley Fox Killer Left Signed Shoe at the Scene (Innocent Father Spent 8 Months in Jail)
NBC Chicago ^ | Wed, Jun 16, 2010 | NATALIE MARTINEZ

Posted on 06/16/2010 11:28:06 AM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: Doc Savage

I’m with you on this issue.

However, have you noticed that some people don’t seem to have an inner core? That they can be led to say what they think someone wants to hear?

My daughter was that way until she reached adulthood, and still may have that tendency, but in her case it was Asperger’s.


41 posted on 06/16/2010 12:47:46 PM PDT by chesley (Lib arguments are neither factual, logical, rational, nor reasonable. They are, however, creative.)
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To: Doc Savage

Coercion doesn’t occur as if in some 1950’s B movie. For instance, coercion occurs when the police convince the subject that someone else has given them all the information they need for a conviction, but that a confession would go a long way to soften the judge’s sentencing.


42 posted on 06/16/2010 12:51:33 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: OldDeckHand

Also from the article I quoted: “The timing of the charges also seemed curious, coming just six days before a tight election for state’s attorney between Tomczak, the incumbent, and a bitter rival, James Glasgow. What’s more, Tomczak’s father, Donald, second-in-command at the City of Chicago’s water department, had just been named in a federal indictment for corruption.”


43 posted on 06/16/2010 12:51:56 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: nickcarraway

except in forced false confessions, there are no details to reveal.


44 posted on 06/16/2010 12:55:48 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Doc Savage
How do you explain the fact that there are many verifiable false confessions every year.

Sure, people should refuse to talk to the police, but most of them don't.

45 posted on 06/16/2010 12:57:03 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: DJ MacWoW

Well, exactly. Until you hear those details, a confession is just another witness statement.


46 posted on 06/16/2010 1:05:36 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
Until you hear those details, a confession is just another witness statement.

Not really as they can and will arrest you for a confession, false or not.

47 posted on 06/16/2010 1:07:15 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Blueflag

I found out the hard way that police will fabricate witness statements in order to make an arrest. It happened to me personally. I gave a statement regarding something that happened to me and I signed it without reading it thinking I could trust the police to write down what I said. Instead, they wrote a work of complete fiction. Very hard lesson to learn.


48 posted on 06/16/2010 1:13:02 PM PDT by ShandaLear (The price of Obamacare? 30 pieces of silver.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
The father will probably not find any solace in the very large amount of money that's going to be coming to him.

He already got it. $15.5 million dollars.

49 posted on 06/16/2010 1:16:05 PM PDT by retrokitten (HAWKS WIN!)
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To: retrokitten

Sounds about right.


50 posted on 06/16/2010 1:33:45 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: nevergore

Sounds reasonable.


51 posted on 06/16/2010 1:37:27 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck.)
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To: Blueflag; nickcarraway

IF this is the case I saw on TV, they did a 14 hour interrogation, till they got a false confession. Then they told the FBI NOT to run the DNA. They ignored the house broken into next door. They never did a crime scene on where the baby was found/raped and the diapers discarded.

Keystone cops if you ask me.


52 posted on 06/16/2010 1:42:44 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: nickcarraway
One more case where the police went for the easy conviction of a relative instead of hunting down the real perp.

They are fond of saying that most violent crimes are committed by a relative of the victim. I say it is because they go after relatives and refuse to check out any other evidence.

53 posted on 06/16/2010 5:43:59 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Doc Savage; Mr. Lucky
Every police station in America knows they can’t get away with that kind of backroom crap anymore.

BS. Write down this keyword: Donutwatch. Follow it on these forums. Cameras post events on YouTube every week that disprove what you just asserted.

You are saying what you WANT TO BELIEVE . but it does not hold up against reality. In the YouTube age pollyanna fantasies like yours don't sell

54 posted on 06/17/2010 5:42:21 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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