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Congressman says Obama birthplace 'not in Hawaii'
WND ^ | 6-18 | WND

Posted on 06/19/2010 2:38:51 AM PDT by rambo316

Obama not born in Hawaii.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; communist; fraud; naturalborncitizen; obama; usurper
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To: Darkwolf377

7-Up.

AKA The Uncola - “Never had it, never will” was their motto for years.


21 posted on 06/19/2010 7:34:45 AM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afganistan and Iraq))
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To: rambo316
Thanks for posting this.

Comedy works when it is based an element of truth that the audience recognizes.

The element of truth for both "birthers" and anti-birthers is the fact that Obama can't yet prove his HI birth with a 1961 document.

It is a very good sign for Constitutional eligibility activists that the big-name comedians are hitting Obama with the widespread public belief that he has failed to release his HI vital records, even when supposedly "mocking" conservatives.

22 posted on 06/19/2010 8:40:08 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: LucyT; STARWISE; ASA Vet

ping...


23 posted on 06/19/2010 8:41:54 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Arthur McGowan; Beckwith; bgill; bitt; butterdezillion; bvw; conservativegramma; Danae; dennisw; ...

NBC Ping


24 posted on 06/19/2010 8:57:19 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: hennie pennie
Is this a link to an article at WND, or is it a link to one of their commercial products??

Article.

25 posted on 06/19/2010 9:06:36 AM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: LucyT; BP2; rxsid; null and void; Candor7

ping


26 posted on 06/19/2010 9:14:02 AM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping List-freepmail me to be included or removed. <{{{><)
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To: El Gato

Thanks, El Gato!!


27 posted on 06/19/2010 9:14:52 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: rambo316; ASA Vet; Seizethecarp; tutstar; hennie pennie; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; ...
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Congressman says Obama birthplace 'not in Hawaii'

[Thanks for the pings, y'all.]

~ Note: I'll be gone the remainder of the day.

28 posted on 06/19/2010 9:22:58 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: rambo316
A local radio talk show host here who has been avoiding and mocking those who question Obama's eligibility has turned the corner and is now asking those questions directly himself.

There are now more and more coming out of the closet and having the courage to admit that they have seen no evidence that Obama is Constitutionally qualified for the Oval Office.

29 posted on 06/19/2010 9:47:50 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: rambo316
Ramsey also said he doesn't believe citizens are concerned about Obama's citizenship status.

Tennessee's State Senator only wishes we don't. That's the same as stating we don't need the Constitution anymore.

30 posted on 06/19/2010 9:52:33 AM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: wetgundog

See my tagline from what was said in the Kenyan Parliament.


31 posted on 06/19/2010 9:54:36 AM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: firebrand; SunkenCiv; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj; Just A Nobody; smoothsailing; ...
Inglis was just going along with the comedy routine, trying not to be such a moderate. It was meant to be funny, not a serious statement.

I tend to agree with you on that, firebrand. If he was serious about challenging O's constitutional qualifications for POTUS, he should have brought up the subject in public a long time ago, rather than waiting until he's in serious trouble in his primary race for re-election.

32 posted on 06/19/2010 9:57:43 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Darkwolf377
If you think WND is an objective news source that doesn't spoon-feed its audience, there's nothing to discuss.

I prefer WND's perspective on these news stories to the perspective of anyone else that you would care to name.

33 posted on 06/19/2010 9:59:45 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Uncle Chip

“I prefer WND’s perspective on these news stories to the perspective of anyone else that you would care to name.”

Seems to be a concerted effort to discredit Joseph Farah and the World Net Daily contributors by Obamatons.


34 posted on 06/19/2010 10:10:03 AM PDT by TauntedTiger (Keep away from the fence!)
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To: rambo316

This is pretty much a non-story, although I don’t see why WND should be faulted for printing it. The congressman, when asked how he would prove he was conservative, knew very well what the belief is of most conservative voters—that Obama was not born in Hawaii. So, it is minor news of a sort, that this is an instantly recognizable joke.


35 posted on 06/19/2010 10:26:47 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: rambo316
While WND keep attention focused on birth certificate issues they have chosen to ignore the fact for which the evidence is unassailable, since it came from the mouth of the Prince, that he was born of an alien father. That is a direct violation of Art. II Sect. 1.

All of our Senators understood that in 2008 when they signed the second of two accords, the first a bill, the second a resolution, sponsored by Pat Leahy and Clair McCaskill asserting McCain's eligibility because both of his parents were citizens. Even the recent declarer, Tim Martin, that Obama does not have a Hawaiian long form, doesn't understand, or doesn't state, what our Library of Congress explained in annotations to the Constitution, that it is accepted, based upon English Common law that a natural born citizen, like a natural born subject, must have two citizen parents.

http://www.gpoaccess.gov/constitution/pdf2002/012.pdf

Our more literate framers provided lots of documentation reinforcing this understanding. We have had many in government try to change it, but never enough, in twenty five attempts to amend the Constitution. McCaskill tried again in 2008, February; Orrin Hatch tried in 2003.

I suspect WND is more interested in advertising hits than in helping their readers understand the truth - sad to say.
Even Jerome Corsi has focused solely upon birth certificates, when he could have used his historical training to discover what many here at FR have, the writing of historian Dr. David Ramsay, who eloquently defined natural born citizen in his 1789 essay on citizenship (Ramsay was on the ratification convention from South Carolina, and wrote The History of America Before the Revolution.

This is most devious behavior, ignoring our Constitution while focusing on titillating and tabloid conjecture about almost certainly never to be seen documents, when there are hundreds of references in our history which WND could have helped enormously to exlain to a public who never heard that there was a difference between Native born U.S. citizen (the term Obama uses to describe his own status) and natural born U.S. citizen (the Constitutional requirement for our presidents and vice presidents, and only those two offices). WND employs some bright people. They know the truth. Why do they avoid it? The Supreme Court must affirm what is already our common law, because no one has tested this definition in a case. But if our citizens don't understand why the framers upgraded Madison's initial set of presidential qualifications, at the urging of John Jay and Washington, what incentive is there for the Supreme Court to create the political uproar certain to come when Obama is removed for his obvious ineligibility. It isn't obvious to the ignorant. The ignorant aren't at all stupid; they have not had a reason to learn this corner of our Constitutional protections against foreign intrigue, as eloquently explained the the first four Federalist Papers.

36 posted on 06/19/2010 10:30:54 AM PDT by Spaulding
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To: missnry

My problem with WND is that it didn’t bother to verify its source - it basically printed baseless allegations as fact while vigorously asserting that the source was reliable. If I want that kind of reliability, I can always turn to the MSN.


37 posted on 06/19/2010 10:45:14 AM PDT by ransomnote
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To: bgill; All
(how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not a native American, become POTUS?)

I recall at least three different Kenyan parliamentarians stating in the minutes of the Parliament that Obama was born in Kenya. But I don't recall any of them evincing any knowledge of the Natural Born Citizen clause in the US constitution, so as to question the legality of his being POTUS. Rather, they merely congratulated and praised Obama.

38 posted on 06/19/2010 10:46:07 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Uncle Chip
There are now more and more coming out of the closet and having the courage to admit that they have seen no evidence that Obama is Constitutionally qualified for the Oval Office.

It doesn't take as much courage as it did previously, now that O's popularity ratings have tanked. Much tougher to lead on an issue when it is unpopular than to join the bandwagon later.

39 posted on 06/19/2010 10:51:59 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Vaduz

There is a lot more proof that he was not born in HI than that he was. IOW there is zero proof he was born in HI.

He’s not an NBC anyway but his foreign birth, if proved in a court of law or in the court of public opinion, will be needed to bring about his downfall. And may that day come soon.


40 posted on 06/19/2010 11:04:45 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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