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Weekly Gardening Thread – 2010 (Vol. 21) June 25
Free Republic | 06-25-2010 | Red_Devil 232

Posted on 06/25/2010 5:13:58 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232

Good morning gardeners. Here in East Central Mississippi the weather has been typical for the middle of June and the official start of summer. Temperatures have been in the mid nineties in the afternoons and high sixties to low seventies overnight with afternoon showers every other day or so. My garden is thriving in this weather and doing very well. I have not had to do any extensive additional watering which is good.

Also this past week I noticed quite a few honey bees up in the garden. I hope they decide to visit often. In the past years my main pollinators have been bumblebees and they are all over the garden also. Things are a buzzing!

I hope all of your gardens are doing well.

If you are a gardener or you are just starting out and are in need of advice or just encouragement please feel free to join in and enjoy the friendly discussion. Our Freeper community is full of gardeners, each with varying interests and skill levels from Master Gardener to novice.

If you have a question about gardening or just an observation to share please feel free to stop by and participate. There are no stupid questions, just honest ones.


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1 posted on 06/25/2010 5:14:02 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232
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I hope all of you will stop by.

This is typically a low volume ping list. Once a week for the thread and every once in a while for other FR threads posted that might be of interest.

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2 posted on 06/25/2010 5:15:00 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

I was just out in the garden and had to run for cover after about 30 seconds. It was a skeeter ambush.


3 posted on 06/25/2010 5:15:46 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Red_Devil 232

My computer room overlooks my garden, and my (normally) silent Golden Retriever barked. I looked up to see him chasing a deer out to the road. I trained him not to do that 8 years ago, but he seems to have forgotten. Besides, the deer easily get away, and he’s content to let them go.


4 posted on 06/25/2010 5:18:55 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Red_Devil 232

My garden is growing like gangbusters, especially the weeds.

I have a ton of little tomatoes growing, my summer squash is a week or so away from picking. Peas and green beans are already being harvested daily.

My best garden yet!


5 posted on 06/25/2010 5:19:44 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Good morning.

We are in the same heat wave (hotter than usual here at 1000’)and a noticeable lack of rain. We also have many cases of early blight in the community garden. Our plot is barely effected, but we are not sure why exactly.

Good news is that to combat it, they are easing the organic restrictions! Now if some folks would trim their plants properly we can beat it.

Harvested zuke, squash, tomatoes, peppers, onions, cilantro and peppers this week. Made a nice salsa and grilled the squash.


6 posted on 06/25/2010 5:19:51 AM PDT by doodad
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To: Red_Devil 232

Good morning.


7 posted on 06/25/2010 5:23:31 AM PDT by lysie
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To: doodad
We had a crookneck squash plant just die. Leaves drooped, then wilted and then it croaked — all in less than 24 hours. The others in the bed are okay so far. Thought it might be gopher but the roots were fine.
8 posted on 06/25/2010 5:23:31 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: cripplecreek
For skeeters and noseeums, I've switched to this stuff:

I like to fish tidal swamps, and this stuff is as good as any other repellent, it's not all slimey and oily, doesn't feel gross and smells decent. I can use it for a lunchbreak fishing trip, and not gross out my coworkers when I gat back into the office.

9 posted on 06/25/2010 5:23:41 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: Red_Devil 232
I have limited space; too many trees/not enough sunlight so I grow a few roma tomatoes and an assortment of peppers and one hill of cukes. This year I'm experimenting with a few peppers grown in containers. These little red hot chilis are in containers.

If I had the space, I would grown mostly in raised beds. I do compost. My main method of preservation is dehydration. I am skilled at canning, but prefer the space saving convenience of dried foods.

FReegards!

10 posted on 06/25/2010 5:30:39 AM PDT by two23 (Everything About Them Is a Lie)
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To: BenLurkin

Sounds like you might have a “squash vine borer”. You can learn about them by doing a google search. They’re not good.


11 posted on 06/25/2010 5:34:14 AM PDT by Miztiki
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To: Miztiki

Thank you.


12 posted on 06/25/2010 5:34:57 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Red_Devil 232

I planted a second row of purple hull cow peas this year. I picked a kitchen garbage bag full yesterday. WHAT was I thinking.


13 posted on 06/25/2010 5:40:08 AM PDT by poobear
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To: Red_Devil 232

Up here “Massachusetts had its warmest spring in the 116 years that conditions have been recorded, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration says.

Connecticut, Rhode Island, Maine, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Vermont, and Michigan also set records for the March-to-May period that meteorologists consider to be spring. By contrast, the same period was among the 10 coolest for Florida, Alabama, and Georgia. (Boston Globe, June 10, 2010)

Also, “much of the area from Little Rock, Ark., St. Louis, Mo., and Chicago, Ill., to Portland, Maine, New York City and Richmond, Va., temperatures have averaged 3.0 to 6.0 degrees above normal this spring.” http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/news/story/33055/100degree-heat-may-follow-reco-1.asp

In May it averaged 72 versus normal 67 and you could have planted tomatoes in April, rather than waiting till the official safe date of May 31.

This is much contrast to last year, when it think it was May that was the fourth coldest and June the second cloudiest, or vice versa, on record.

However, i was not able to work much after the middle of May in my neighbors plot, but the corn that did get planted is already knee high. thanks be to God. I also have 16 tomatoes plants on the roof, which i began inside from saved seeds, and being on the north side of a hill, with no south facing windows, the do not get that large. But some are now big and bushy with lots of flowers, though they are 3 plants in each 22”x15”x13 bin.


14 posted on 06/25/2010 5:40:26 AM PDT by daniel1212 ("Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out " (Acts 3:19))
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To: doodad

“(hotter than usual here at 1000’)”.

Your garden must on the planet Mercury:)


15 posted on 06/25/2010 5:42:50 AM PDT by daniel1212 ("Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out " (Acts 3:19))
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To: Red_Devil 232

Our bell and jalapeno peppers are coming along. We should be awash in tomatoes in the next few weeks. We have two fig trees and it looks like a bumper crop this year.


16 posted on 06/25/2010 5:44:04 AM PDT by csvset
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To: Red_Devil 232

My wife will be preparing our FIRST batch of salsa from fresh garden tomatoes this evening...the first of many, I hope.


17 posted on 06/25/2010 5:47:33 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: two23
Nice healthy pepper plant. Container growing is great for those with limited space and for those who might not be able to physically maintain a larger garden.
18 posted on 06/25/2010 5:50:18 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: cripplecreek

I hate those skeeters!


19 posted on 06/25/2010 5:51:19 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Thanks to the assistance from those on the weekly gardening thread my baby giant pumpkin is happy, healthy, and chillin’ in his little hammock I made for him.

At 3 weeks, he is the size of a large grapefruit!

I shouldn’t be cocky and arrogant, as bad things always happen when I get too optimistic.


20 posted on 06/25/2010 5:54:15 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns (Novare Res!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Thanks Red! Our backyard has a drainfield (no grow zone), trees/shade, red Georgia clay, and in-ground irrigation so by time I eliminate all those areas, there’s nothing left!
The tomatoes are on the sidelines, some peppers are near the bird bath, and the cukes are out of bounds.
I may invest in more conatiners next year because the deck is in full sun. And these plants do look good.
It just gets real hot on the deck.
“Four-hunnerd-hell” hot as we say here.


21 posted on 06/25/2010 6:02:16 AM PDT by two23 (Everything About Them Is a Lie)
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To: Red_Devil 232
Got up this morning and went to the garden and I had 3 tomato plants nearly striped by cut worms. I found 2 of them, amazing the damage they can do in a short period of time. I found one of them actually eating on a tomato.
22 posted on 06/25/2010 6:06:52 AM PDT by Hotmetal (554th Red Horse)
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To: daniel1212

Feels like it some days. I literally lost three pounds playing golf the other day.


23 posted on 06/25/2010 6:09:45 AM PDT by doodad
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To: Red_Devil 232
The cicadas started singing in the trees this past week. It never seems like summer until the cicadas sing.

I have lots of green cherry tomatoes, but none showing any signs of going towards ripeness. A couple of weeks back I found some nearly 10 y o tomato seeds (Purple Calabash), and planted those to see if there was any life left in them, and sure enough, many of them germinated. They'll be late, but they will happen.

I am not having much luck growing peppers--mini bell peppers, and aji dulces. The seeds just don't seem to germinate well.

I put in the posts for the grape trellis. The table grape vines planted some time back are doing well, so it was time to build them a trellis.

The "Uproar Rose" zinnias are spectacular. Last year's zinnias were too tall, and swamped the rest of the flowers. These are much more suitable to be planted among perennials like daylily, lavender, and heuchera. I also grew "Persian Carpet" zinnias for the first time this year--they are much more impressive than they looked on the catalogue page. [Z6, SW Ohio]
24 posted on 06/25/2010 6:29:39 AM PDT by Nepeta
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To: Red_Devil 232

Lettuce!!

Tons of lettuce. We’re eating salads for lunch and dinner almost everyday. My head lettuce is gone, but the leaf lettuce keeps on going.

And we got a shopping bag full of lettuce from a friend when we helped to remove their pool cover.

And we’ve been getting two heads a week from our farm share. (Yes, I admit that we bought a farm share in a local farm. My garden just isn’t big enough to supply all our veggie needs.)

Collards & a ham hock just put in the slow cooker with a can of whole tomatoes (none ready here yet) onions & garlic. I’ll throw a can of black-eyed peas in later.

Tomato question, how many people remove non producing branches from your tomato plants and exact how do you a) know which ones to remove, and b) how do you remove them by cutting??

Love to read this thread every week. Wish I had enough knowledge to give back.


25 posted on 06/25/2010 6:31:20 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: All

Does anybody know how to get grass to grow under oak trees?


26 posted on 06/25/2010 6:34:31 AM PDT by rightly_dividing
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To: cripplecreek

There are may products which repel mosquitoes on humans. A new product by the makers of OFF spray. It is a device you wear on a belt loop and the aroma of OFF is spread around by a fan. Going to try it. Also found a yellow bracelet in the AmeriMark.com catalog which has an aroma of citronella, which repels mosquitoes too. There is a + 2 inches or more of water in our reserviors and some periodic downpours. One of the advantages of less rain is fewer mosquitoes.


27 posted on 06/25/2010 6:41:29 AM PDT by tob2 (I would rather have a nuclear power plant in my backyard than Gitmo detainees.)
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To: KosmicKitty
I prune any of the lower branches that touch the ground and what are called suckers these are the branches that start growing in the "V" between the main stem and side branches. I just pinch them off if they are small and tender or if they are bigger I just use a quick snap to remove them.

Other than the lower branches and the suckers I don't prune anything else. In the picture below they are pruning out a sucker. They just use up the plant energy and will not produce tomatoes.


28 posted on 06/25/2010 6:49:22 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: KosmicKitty
I meant to post this video in my other reply. It is a good video on how to do pruning.

How To Prune Tomatoes

29 posted on 06/25/2010 6:58:22 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
Does anyone have a recipe for cooking potato tops that are 30 to 36 inches tall and they are still upright! I must have gotten something out of kilter although we had late rains for this area. The Red Gold is starting to flower so I may be able to rob a few spuds soon. My garden helper picked 2 gallons of Raspberries Wed and Thur and it killed her back as it took a total of 4 hours.

Our son in law spent yesterday power washing our post and rail fence and will be back next week to paint it. It separates our neighbor's cow from our landscaping. It's made of pressure treated lumber and it wasn't primed properly when it was installed 5 years ago. Is there any primer that will stick to PT lumber?

Our ten day forecast for the Humboldt Bay Region

30 posted on 06/25/2010 7:24:37 AM PDT by tubebender (Life is short so drink the good wine first...)
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To: Red_Devil 232

My garden’s coming along, slowly but surely. I’m about to get my first zucchini in the next couple days. I will be picking some dragon tongue beans later today! I may post a picture of the beans later today :) I have green tomatoes, but none ripe so far.

The Japanese beetles have descended here. They have decimated one rose bush, and are working on strawberry plants and basil, along with a few other plants. Anyone have any tips? I don’t like to use Seven dust very often, but maybe I should?

I did get a chance to visit the Missouri Botanical Garden several weeks back, and it was beautiful! It was much bigger than I expected.

Hope everyone’s garden is coming along nicely!


31 posted on 06/25/2010 7:28:15 AM PDT by chickpundit (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: rightly_dividing
"Does anybody know how to get grass to grow under oak trees?"

Choose the right grass and water it sufficiently. You have to remember that the tree is sucking a tremendous amount of water and doesn't leave much for the grass. We have St. Augustine under our oaks, but the trees range from 50-100 years old and are trimmed up at least 15-20 feet from the ground to allow the sun to get under in the morning and again in the afternoon.

It is also necessary to thin out the limbs inside the drip line of the canopy -- anything that is pointing up or pointing in -- any branches that somehow rub against another. All of the branches should be growing outward. This pruning does two things: 1) keeps the tree vigorous and allows airflow through which helps it defend against strong winds; and 2) permits filtered sunlight to the ground.

Check with your local seed dealer or county extension agent on the shade grasses that thrive in your area.

32 posted on 06/25/2010 7:29:18 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: tubebender
"Is there any primer that will stick to PT lumber?"

Glidden makes a primer called "Gripper", that will stick to just about anything. Lowes had a demonstration board with this stuff painted on a bunch of things. I bought some and it covered paneling that had been sprayed with Scott's Liquid Gold for a couple of decades. Then I got adventurous and painted some old ceramic tile in the bathroom. It stuck to both beautifully.

33 posted on 06/25/2010 7:35:39 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Onion questions: If the tops break, will the bulb still continue to grow? Should I pull onions that develope flowers? How much water because it looks like some of the bulbs are soft, they might be rotting? Thanks!


34 posted on 06/25/2010 7:38:58 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Red_Devil 232
Getting the final touches finished between thunder storms and tornado warnings!

We tried to truck in more topsoil to expand the garden, but with all the rain of course the dump truck got stuck when they attempted to drop the load where I wanted it... what a mess! Split the towing fee with the driver, making that 10 yard delivery the most expensive dirt I've ever bought! Our wheelbarrow is getting a real workout fixing that problem.

Everything that's gone into the ground is thriving... especially the tomatoes and cabbages!

35 posted on 06/25/2010 7:39:57 AM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: Red_Devil 232

I have my first Ghost Chile growing. A month’s worth of gemination yielded 1 out of 12 seeds. I have it in a small clay pot and I move it from one side of the yard to the other so it follows the sun. I’m watering it from below, filling a saucer and letting the soil soak it up. It’s almost 2 inches tall and has 2 rows of leaves now. A couple more weeks and I think it will be over the hump and grow until it bears fruit. Hopefully it will winter over inside the house like my Tabasco and Habanero peppers do, then next summer I will be loaded with peppers.

Do you use any special types of fertilizers on these plants? I am just depending on whatever nutrients are in the Miracle Grow potting soil I planted it in. I know peppers in general don’t need a lot of fertilizer, any special tips for this baby?


36 posted on 06/25/2010 7:48:37 AM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Try saying Glidden Gripper 6 times with a mouth full of fresh out of the oven blueberry muffins! I did some research on painting PT wood and see my original mistake was priming and painting the fence without letting the wood age to evaporate some of the oils in the treatment...


37 posted on 06/25/2010 7:53:02 AM PDT by tubebender (Life is short so drink the good wine first...)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Anyone have any experience with the EarthBox Garden Kits?

Considering them to replace the 4X4 gardens the kids are maintaining.


38 posted on 06/25/2010 8:06:27 AM PDT by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: tob2

A new product by the makers of OFF spray. It is a device you wear on a belt loop and the aroma of OFF is spread around by a fan.


Saw that the other day. I need to try it - my blood OFF level must be at least 0.10 by now.

Puzzling whether some kind of smudge/smoke pot might work. Scratching as we type.


39 posted on 06/25/2010 8:07:16 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: Red_Devil 232

Woo hoo. In before the 100th post! I put the squash in the ground last weekend. Potatos are coming up well. Days are getting hot. Got to set up timer and drip hoses soon.


40 posted on 06/25/2010 8:07:36 AM PDT by MtnClimber (Osama and Obama both hate freedom and have friends that bombed the Pentagon)
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To: cripplecreek
We have deer flies here. I have to drive up to the street to get the mail.

I just ordered some sticky patches for my cap that should help cut down on the population of the little vampires.

41 posted on 06/25/2010 8:21:42 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: two23

Wonderful photo!


42 posted on 06/25/2010 8:22:46 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: daniel1212

LOL!


43 posted on 06/25/2010 8:23:43 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Red_Devil 232; tubebender; who knows what evil?; All
Good morning, FRiends! The garden is producing in bushels and I have been going non-stop for 15 hours a day. Stopped long enough to take a few photos this morning.

First of all, my miracle of all miracles -- english peas growing and producing in 100 degree temperatures. I have them in the same area corner of the garden as my greens and radishes, which gets shade at a couple of intervals during the intense heat of the day.

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The pepper section has become the pepper jungle! (Indian corn in the background)

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Spaghetti squash growing on a trellis.

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Lady (cream) peas are producing well. We have been picking for about a week now. I love "top pick" pea varieties so that you don't have to stoop to pick them!

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The green stringbeans made almost 150 lbs. We have pulled them up and replanted for a second crop. The planting dates in the guidebook were July 1 through September, so I figured a week early probably would not hurt.

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Tomatoes are finally turning:

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White scalloped squash is setting blooms. I think I planted about 30 days ago.

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Yellow squash with one row of trelli in the background:

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The oldest of the tomato section ... I still have a tray of Romas and Rutgers to set out and I'll probably start some additional seeds in the coming week.

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The produce stand is a huge hit and is busy every day. I'm going to have to expand to meet the demand and that will require hired help and more refrigeration. The market is certainly there for a thriving business.

44 posted on 06/25/2010 8:24:38 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Man alive! Are you growing in mostly sand?


45 posted on 06/25/2010 8:36:55 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: Red_Devil 232

Mornin’, Red,

I’m happy to report that up here, a little north of your area, I have had several honeybees every morning on the blooms in my little garden. Been a long time since I have seen any of those.

They stay as busy as, well, bees! My squash had been planted for about 6 weeks, and done nothing BUT bloom. It is very large and has been covered with blooms, but no squash. That is, until right after I started seeing the honeybees. Now it is covered in little squash.


46 posted on 06/25/2010 8:47:06 AM PDT by MagnoliaMS
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Will you marry me?


47 posted on 06/25/2010 8:55:28 AM PDT by Chickensoup (The Acting President....is an incompetent puppet of Soros.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

I have several dirt people friends and they recommend not even trying to grow grass under trees because of the light issue. Grass, regardless of whether it is labeled as “shade tolerant” or not will not grow without sunlight. Your energy time and money might be better spent planting ground covers under the tree like monkey grass or vinca-not the flower vinca but the ground cover vinca.
Just my 2 cents. Good luck.


48 posted on 06/25/2010 8:57:04 AM PDT by murrie (For God so loved the world, that he gave His only begotten Son..........)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Great pictures - that is a major league garden.


49 posted on 06/25/2010 9:03:37 AM PDT by dainbramaged (If you want a friend, get a dog.)
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To: doodad

Golf in 100 degree weather? It rarely gets that hot in MA, and the humidity is usually high, so you feel both the heat and the cold more.

And while i was just kidding, i find planets interesting, and 100F is still not at as hot as Mercury can gets, as its surface ranges in temperature from -270°F to 800°F, depending on time and location, while a 100 pound person would weigh only 38 pounds. And a daytime lasts 58.65 Earth days, while its thin atmosphere consist of trace amounts of hydrogen and helium. You won’t grow tomatoes there! and Mars is much colder than the Earth, and with no oxygen, and don’t even ask about Venus.

In short, God made the earth man to inhabit.


50 posted on 06/25/2010 9:09:25 AM PDT by daniel1212 ("Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out " (Acts 3:19))
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