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Do Porn Sites Need .XXX Web Domain?
abcnews. ^ | June 25, 2010 | KI MAE HEUSSNER

Posted on 06/25/2010 2:48:50 PM PDT by JoeProBono

Internet porn sites may soon have the option to move off the ".com" main street of the Web to their very own adult-only domain: ".xxx."

But industry experts say the adult world is divided over whether or not there is actually a need for a dedicated virtual red-light district. Internet domain names are expanding exponentially.

The Internet Corp. for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN), an international Internet oversight group, announced Friday that it would proceed with a proposal to register ".xxx," after rejecting the same application three years ago.

Peter Dengate Thrush, chairman of ICANN's board of directors, told ABCNews.com that the board had previously rejected the .xxx proposal by ICM Registry, LLC because of disagreement over whether or not a community of adult content providers backed the proposal.

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1 posted on 06/25/2010 2:48:51 PM PDT by JoeProBono
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To: JoeProBono

don’t worry they will be making porn okay for kids soon, the schools, Hollywierd, government and liberaltarians are all on that


2 posted on 06/25/2010 2:51:22 PM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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To: GeronL

The “they” you criticize is the free market.


3 posted on 06/25/2010 2:55:30 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Mexico is the U.S. version of Hamas)
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To: JoeProBono

I think it’s a good idea.

No one is infringed on and you wont accidentily wander into the fullmooncafe.xxx vice the fullmooncafe.com


4 posted on 06/25/2010 2:56:00 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions: $1 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: GeronL
A number of years ago I saw an interview with one of the leading internet porn purveyors and he said if you want to block porn the easiest way is to provide an address, such as .xxx that can then easily be blocked. As I understand it, the left has actually blocked the creation of such a designation, apparently in order to keep porn in the faces of families that would otherwise attempt to block it.
5 posted on 06/25/2010 2:57:31 PM PDT by highlander_UW (Education is too important to leave in the hands of the government.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Yes, stop calling raping kids on camera “art”. Perverts advertising smut to kids is “free market”. whatever.

I hope they all get AIDS and die, that would make me happy.

Is there a free market for murder too?


6 posted on 06/25/2010 2:57:41 PM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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To: highlander_UW

The porn industry wants to attract the eyes of children.

Why do you think so many of their sites use words like “teen” in the title?


7 posted on 06/25/2010 2:58:45 PM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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To: JoeProBono

It’s a good idea. Makes it easier for those who wish to avoid it to do so.


8 posted on 06/25/2010 2:58:48 PM PDT by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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To: JoeProBono
pron sites do NOT want it because it will be tooo easy to block the .XXX extension...
9 posted on 06/25/2010 2:58:53 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: JoeProBono

http://www.theclintonlibrary.xxx


10 posted on 06/25/2010 2:59:41 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: GeronL

Ummm they dont use “teen” to attract teens


11 posted on 06/25/2010 3:00:10 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions: $1 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: EagleUSA

Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage

Diagnose Connection Problems


12 posted on 06/25/2010 3:01:03 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: JoeProBono

The biggest problem would be how to treat sites where the content is uploaded by the users.

Some of these have gotten a little raunchy, particularly when the Admin Moderator is asleep.


13 posted on 06/25/2010 3:01:42 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: GeronL
Why do you think so many of their sites use words like “teen” in the title?

I know I stumbled across a whole series of porn sites while sitting with my then about 8 yr old daughter when she wanted to look at additional sets of clothes for her "American Girl" doll. Try typing American Girl and you get all sorts of porn sites. Fortunately I didn't have a browser that gave image previews so I realized immediately I had to revise the search parameters and because she was so young she wasn't able to read the options that popped up.

But as I indicated, the porn guy said if you want to make it easy for programs to block sites move all of the porn sites to a .xxx so you can just block all such sites simply via software.

I was surprised to see the porn guy recommend an honest and functional solution...but I've seen "progressives" block that solution at every turn.

14 posted on 06/25/2010 3:03:17 PM PDT by highlander_UW (Education is too important to leave in the hands of the government.)
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To: GeronL
Yes, stop calling raping kids on camera “art”.

That's already illegal to do.

Perverts advertising smut to kids is “free market”. whatever.

There are measures one can take to prevent this from happening. Parental controls, monitoring your children's internet usage, for example.

I hope they all get AIDS and die, that would make me happy.

Uh OK, but you're still missing the point. Porn is big business and there is a market. Trying to regulate it more than it already is, or going further and banning it, won't stop it.

15 posted on 06/25/2010 3:07:38 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Mexico is the U.S. version of Hamas)
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To: highlander_UW

“As I understand it, the left has actually blocked the creation of such a designation, apparently in order to keep porn in the faces of families that would otherwise attempt to block it.”

I am SHOOCKED that Hollywood pervs would want their $20,000 productions that earn millions to be blocked...SHOCKED I tell you.


16 posted on 06/25/2010 3:07:55 PM PDT by jessduntno ( "The planet has a fever, and it's in Al Gore's pants." - Howie Carr)
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To: highlander_UW

Yeah, we made the “american girl” mistake too.

Nice of those sickos to display that to my little girls.

The LORD will judge.


17 posted on 06/25/2010 3:09:28 PM PDT by Persevero (It's going to be a long summer.)
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To: JoeProBono

Sounds good to me. Get all the porn sites out of the .com and .net zones, and DNS lookups or zone transfers on what’s left should work better.


18 posted on 06/25/2010 3:09:43 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: GeronL
The porn industry wants to attract the eyes of children.

The industry is heavily regulated. Parents can buy filters to prevent their children from watching it.

Why do you think so many of their sites use words like “teen” in the title?

Probably because 18 and 19 year olds have the word "teen" in their titles?

19 posted on 06/25/2010 3:09:47 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Mexico is the U.S. version of Hamas)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I know, big business just can’t be stopped.

We make millions on abortion. Try to stop it, it just won’t work.

Couldn’t stop those lampshade factories in Germany, either.

There is so much money made in child prostitution. Why bother trying to end it? Just don’t use it if you aren’t comfortable.

As for the caste system and the slavery there, you know, it is ingrained. Might as well give it up. That is the way it goes.

Slavery in America was pervasive as the sun. How could we have possibly stopped that? Well, obviously we couldn’t. I don’t know what those Union soldiers thought they were doing. Do you know that people are still enslaved?

Child abuse. There has been child abuse since the beginning of time. What are we going to do, put cameras in all the houses of America? It is just beyond ridiculous. You can’t stop it anyway.

Etc.


20 posted on 06/25/2010 3:13:04 PM PDT by Persevero (It's going to be a long summer.)
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To: highlander_UW

“I know I stumbled across a whole series of porn sites while sitting with my then about 8 yr old daughter”

Set the filter in your browser. The one in Internet Explorer works really well. This is an interim solution until you decide you want to get some more robust blocking software.


21 posted on 06/25/2010 3:15:41 PM PDT by webstersII
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To: Persevero

“Yeah, we made the “american girl” mistake too.”

See post 14.


22 posted on 06/25/2010 3:18:01 PM PDT by webstersII
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To: Persevero

Oops. I meant go to the post with this info:

“Set the filter in your browser. The one in Internet Explorer works really well. This is an interim solution until you decide you want to get some more robust blocking software.”


23 posted on 06/25/2010 3:21:06 PM PDT by webstersII
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To: Persevero

Your points are irrelevant to the central argument I’m making.


24 posted on 06/25/2010 3:25:20 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Mexico is the U.S. version of Hamas)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I understood your point to be, - porn is too big a part of our business and society, and we can’t stop it, so let’s not even try.-

If that was not your point, what was your point?


25 posted on 06/25/2010 3:30:37 PM PDT by Persevero (It's going to be a long summer.)
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To: mylife

No. They use it to attract perverts.


26 posted on 06/25/2010 3:44:50 PM PDT by friendly_doc
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To: JoeProBono
This has been kicking around since the very beginning of ICANN and list-servers.

Why are they finally doing it now?

My bet is the FCC/Julius Genachowski had everything to do with it.

He so wants to get his hands on the web and make it more fair.

The voices of women and minorities are currently drowned out on the Internet, don't you know?

27 posted on 06/25/2010 3:52:18 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The only stable state is the one in which all men are equal before the law." -- Aristotle)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Trying to regulate it more than it already is, or going further and banning it, won't stop it.

It worked pretty well before liberalism/libertarians took over in the 1960s.

28 posted on 06/25/2010 3:56:15 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: highlander_UW

Interesting...I typed American Girl into Google...got no porn sites for first 5 pages I looked at..what search engine are you using??...magritte


29 posted on 06/25/2010 3:57:03 PM PDT by magritte ("There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
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To: GeronL

don’t worry they will be making porn okay for kids soon,

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I suspect the main reason they have not gone for the xxx domain is so that kids will accidently land on their disgusting sites.

On a related note, a number of years ago, when I was still teaching high school, I was preparing a research assignment for my students on wetlands (swamps). As part of my prep, I went online to see what kind of websites a simple search would bring my students during their research. I was appalled and angry by the number of porn sites that came up. It was evident that these smut merchants set up their search criteria so that middle and high school students would come upon them.


30 posted on 06/25/2010 4:10:45 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012 -- Bolton their Secretary of State)
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To: JoeProBono

One throat to choke.


31 posted on 06/25/2010 4:37:50 PM PDT by Blogatron (Come November, they're gonna feel my pain.)
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To: Bigg Red
Porno movie producers don't want to get put into a "ghetto." When video tapes first came out, almost all video stores had a XXX section. By having this section, they were able to get people to rent these movies who would never have gone into a XXX bookstore. Over time, all of the big chains made a marketing decision that they would not carry porn. Some companies may have had a moral objection to carrying it, but many realized that the money they made from porn was more than offset by the people who refused to do business with them because they carried porn.

Without this mainstream acceptance, porno videos were relegated to a few dirty movie and magazine stores. While these stores were profitable, the profits were nowhere near as large they would have been if the producers could have persuaded stores like Blockbuster and Hollywood Video to carry them. An unstated part of this is that much of advertising is about telling someone who they are if they use your product. If the videos were in a mainstream movie store, you're just watching a movie. If you have to go to a porno movie house, you're a dirty old man in a trench coat.

The music industry was pretty straightforward in their reasoning behind the howls of protest when Al and Tipper Gore pushed for a rating system. Music deemed explicit might not get radio play and sales would suffer. The XXX domain name is the same thing. If the site is something like Teen Girls" it doesn't seem as seedy as if it had a XXX domain.

Wandering a little off topic, there's an interesting thing about vice. The profitability of it is often because there are a limited number of people willing to do it. Once the behavior becomes acceptable, the profit is largely gone. With Playboy magazine, for example, during the first ten years or so, it wasn't particularly easy to find the types of girls they wanted that were willing to pose nude, and most magazine publishers feared printing nude photos. Once it became mainstream, Playboy ceased to be "daring," and ended up being just another title on the dirty magazine rack next to Penthouse, Hustler, and whatever.

32 posted on 06/25/2010 5:09:16 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: ansel12
It worked pretty well before liberalism/libertarians took over in the 1960s.

Prostitution and porn have been prevalent since the founding of this country.

33 posted on 06/25/2010 5:16:01 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Mexico is the U.S. version of Hamas)
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To: Bigg Red
As part of my prep, I went online to see what kind of websites a simple search would bring my students during their research.

that is exactly right.

"teen" anything will do it too.

34 posted on 06/25/2010 5:43:51 PM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Prostitution and porn have been prevalent since the founding of this country.

No it hasn't, look up "prevalent", it only became prevalent once you guys took over in the 1960s, it didn't do well at all for the first 150 years, you would have had to look very hard for your pornography before the liberal/libertarian gains of the 1960s.

35 posted on 06/25/2010 5:51:14 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Free market does not mean free to push their filth into our face.


36 posted on 06/25/2010 5:56:46 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

So, if a bunch of people were paying huge dollars to watch teenage boys punch 80 year old women (who do it for money)in the face until they bleed, you advocate letting the market regulate itself?


37 posted on 06/25/2010 6:01:24 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: magritte
Interesting...I typed American Girl into Google...got no porn sites for first 5 pages I looked at..what search engine are you using??...magritte

I don't use google any longer, but I think it was google I was using at the time. I wonder if those particular sites have gone out of business, or if someone cleaned it up. That was about 9 years or so ago.

38 posted on 06/25/2010 6:02:40 PM PDT by highlander_UW (Education is too important to leave in the hands of the government.)
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To: webstersII
Set the filter in your browser. The one in Internet Explorer works really well. This is an interim solution until you decide you want to get some more robust blocking software.

I appreciate the suggestion. That was about 9 years ago (daughter is almost 17 now) and we don't web surf any longer. Fortunately, there weren't any images that immediately popped up, just links to sites I could tell were unacceptable.

39 posted on 06/25/2010 6:04:45 PM PDT by highlander_UW (Education is too important to leave in the hands of the government.)
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To: highlander_UW
Web search sites use algorithms for their searches, and they've improved a lot in the last ten years. My sister ran into something similar when looking for prices for uniforms for the girls to wear at a Catholic school.

Web advertising sites also used to have extremely graphic porno show up on mainstream sites because they just rotated the ads instead of matching them to the site content.

Google now defaults to moderate safe search which blocks a lot of sites. They also by default block sites that are proven to have illegal content (child porn and some hacking sites.) I think that search terms which have both a mainstream and a porn equivalent (rule 34 of course) will default to showing the mainstream sites first.

40 posted on 06/25/2010 6:11:37 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: ansel12
No it hasn't, look up "prevalent", it only became prevalent once you guys took over in the 1960s, it didn't do well at all for the first 150 years, you would have had to look very hard for your pornography before the liberal/libertarian gains of the 1960s.

It was prevalent, it just wasn't publicized and mainstreamed as it is now.

41 posted on 06/25/2010 6:43:00 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Mexico is the U.S. version of Hamas)
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To: Bryan24
Free market does not mean free to push their filth into our face.

What is your definition of filth?
Adults having sex and adults viewing it isn't illegal.

42 posted on 06/25/2010 6:44:49 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Mexico is the U.S. version of Hamas)
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To: Bryan24
So, if a bunch of people were paying huge dollars to watch teenage boys punch 80 year old women (who do it for money)in the face until they bleed, you advocate letting the market regulate itself?

Well your premise is wrong because such activity is already against the law.

43 posted on 06/25/2010 6:47:22 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Mexico is the U.S. version of Hamas)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Should be.....


44 posted on 06/25/2010 6:47:26 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Pornography was not prevalent in past America, it was difficult to find and was illegal, I remember the court victories of the left/libertarians of the 1960s as they pushed to make porn “prevalent”, those were days when “banned in Boston” meant something, and legalizing bikini clad go-go girls (in cages), in clubs in Houston was a major victory for the pro porn crowd.

The liberal/libertarians have made porn “prevalent” now, it is even made mandatory by the government (schools for example), pornography is strongly enforced by the post 1960’s government as being “freedom of speech”, something that would stun the people that created this nation.


45 posted on 06/25/2010 7:04:58 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: Bryan24
You should be thankful that porn is on the internet and not at a seedy corner bookstore. Or prostitutes walking the streets. As long as there are strict laws in place dealing with child porn and sex offenders, I don't see what the big deal is. What adults do in the privacy of their own homes is simply none of my business. I use parental controls when my daughter is using the Internet and she is not allowed to use Facebook and other social networking or chat room sites.

Your advocacy of a higher standard of moral values is simply no match for free market capitalism.

46 posted on 06/25/2010 7:09:11 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Mexico is the U.S. version of Hamas)
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To: ansel12
Pornography was not prevalent in past America, it was difficult to find and was illegal

Yeah, those whorehouses and prostitution outfits in the developing Old West were just movie plot lines, right?.

What about the pulp fiction porn novels that were available in the "pristine" 40s and 50s?

47 posted on 06/25/2010 7:13:34 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Mexico is the U.S. version of Hamas)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

First, this is about pornography, and porn was fought and fought pretty successfully.

I’m not aware of where the average American man could easily have put his hands on porn in the past, do you? Many of us here are old enough to remember when that took effort on a man’s part to seek it out in the shadows of life, and that was in the 1950s before the libertarian Earl Warren court, imposed so much power over our culture and communities.


48 posted on 06/25/2010 7:24:00 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

In the name of “Free Market” and “Capitalism”, we have thrown away our sense of morality.

In the privacy of their own homes? What is private about putting their sexual escapades on the Internet for the world to see?

The analogy of the prostitute is more like she walks up to your door and knocks, then flashes you when you answer the doorbell.

Instead of software to filter it out, how bout you have to buy special software to get to it?


49 posted on 06/25/2010 7:24:15 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

50 years ago, you could not find pictures of a man having sex with a woman. You wouldhave to trave the entire country to find some seedy little bookstore that was selling it under the counter.

Now, you can enter 8-9 keystrokes and have free porn movies depicting every kind of sex known to man. You can do it from virtually any computer in the world (except businesses that actively have to try and block it).

I can turn the channel on my cable, press 2 buttons and have a porn movie playing on TV.

Hit the wrong key by mistake and you will get porn emails from now until kingdom come.

It is PUSHED, PUSHED, PUSHED on us. It’s time we pushed it back.


50 posted on 06/25/2010 7:32:16 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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