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Is It Time To Run Around Monkey Screaming Yet? Asteroid May Hit The Earth in 2015 8000 Megatons
MPML / A list for asteroid and comet research ^ | 6/28/2010 | Andrea Milani

Posted on 06/30/2010 11:36:48 AM PDT by Dallas59

The object 2010 KH has been observed only by WISE and currently has a disgusting orbit: semimajor axis = 3.2 +- 3 AU. In fact, it might not even be a NEO. However, by using the available data, we have found Virtual impactors, including one in 2015, of course with a very low impact probability (the asteroid could be almost anywhere, thus we cannot exclude that it could be on top of us at some time in the near future).

Now this situation is very unpleasant. This object possibly does not even exist as a NEO, on the other hand the nominal solution is a NEO with absolute magnitude 18.2. Our way to handle this would be to proclaim that it has not been discovered, and refuse to give credit to WISE and to NASA for such a terrible job. However, as you well know, this kind of decision is not in our hands.

Our job is to report objects which might be impacting the Earth. It is not part of our style to adopt scare tactics to push astronomers to observe asteroids with Virtual Impactors; however, with very simple arithmetics, it can be deduced from our risk page that in case this asteroid was to impact the Earth in 2015, the impact energy is estimated at 8,000 megatons.

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TOPICS: Astronomy; Computers/Internet; Conspiracy; Science
KEYWORDS: asteroid; catastrophism; collision
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1 posted on 06/30/2010 11:36:54 AM PDT by Dallas59
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To: Dallas59

Nothing worse than being impacted...


2 posted on 06/30/2010 11:39:07 AM PDT by Afisra
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To: Dallas59

It has a disgusting orbit.

Is it orbiting Michael Moore or something?


3 posted on 06/30/2010 11:40:10 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Dallas59

Would it help to run around screaming? I bet not.


4 posted on 06/30/2010 11:40:43 AM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: brytlea

Check the air in your tires then and fill your gastank with corn oil.

WE MUST do all we CAN!


5 posted on 06/30/2010 11:42:11 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
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To: Dallas59
8000 megatons is nothing to worry about. It's a very quick way to die. Try to find comfort in that. Because we can't do squat about it if it is headed this way.

/johnny

6 posted on 06/30/2010 11:43:48 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Dallas59

No need to worry, according the Myan calendar its all over come 2012. See, don’t worry, be happy.


7 posted on 06/30/2010 11:44:14 AM PDT by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: Dallas59

Well, it’s useless to stop smoking and drinking now.


8 posted on 06/30/2010 11:44:24 AM PDT by cll (I am the warrant and the sanction)
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To: Dallas59
I kinda like running around screaming...so OK

YAHHHHH!

9 posted on 06/30/2010 11:44:45 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Dallas59

By ‘15, we may welcome the distraction.


10 posted on 06/30/2010 11:44:54 AM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: Dallas59

Wow. Completely unreadable.


11 posted on 06/30/2010 11:46:28 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Dallas59

Wow. Utterly unreadable.


12 posted on 06/30/2010 11:46:51 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: a fool in paradise

Yes, and I think we have to stop breeding cats and dogs too! (well, according to another thread).


13 posted on 06/30/2010 11:48:16 AM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: Dallas59

Indeed, it’s both completely and utterly unreadable.


14 posted on 06/30/2010 11:48:25 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Dallas59
I think I'll try the chipotle sauce this time...

...or maybe the guacamole...

I hate this.

I can't decide!

15 posted on 06/30/2010 11:49:50 AM PDT by Allegra (My seventh chakra is oppressed.)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

16 posted on 06/30/2010 11:55:08 AM PDT by Lil Flower (Hey, look at me!! I'm "Bloggin While White!!")
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To: Dallas59

Don’t know what’s worse....Living through a second Obammy term or the earth getting hit with an asteroid.....


17 posted on 06/30/2010 11:55:17 AM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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18 posted on 06/30/2010 11:55:44 AM PDT by evets (beer)
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To: Dallas59

19 posted on 06/30/2010 11:57:47 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: Dallas59

Preemptive strike: “Bush’s fault!!”


20 posted on 06/30/2010 11:59:05 AM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Dallas59


Andrea Milani Comparetti Home Page

21 posted on 06/30/2010 11:59:57 AM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: ALASKA; ActionNewsBill; airborne; A knight without armor; albertp; areafiftyone; aruanan; ...

Hope this is appropriate for our ping list.


22 posted on 06/30/2010 11:59:57 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Dallas59

23 posted on 06/30/2010 12:04:27 PM PDT by pigsmith
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To: pigsmith


Video Linky

24 posted on 06/30/2010 12:09:24 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: cll

“Well, it’s useless to stop smoking and drinking now.”

Imagine Obama running on this theme in 2012: “You may as well re-elect me since we’ll all be dead in a few years anyway.”


25 posted on 06/30/2010 12:18:08 PM PDT by DrC
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To: DCPatriot

Thanks for the ping.


26 posted on 06/30/2010 12:21:31 PM PDT by GOPJ (More people are killed every year by falling vending machines than by holders of concealed-weapons)
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To: existtoexcel

4 later


27 posted on 06/30/2010 12:24:55 PM PDT by existtoexcel
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To: GOPJ

oh ... my ..... God.... this is hugh and very series!!!


28 posted on 06/30/2010 12:25:57 PM PDT by Chuzzlewit
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To: JRandomFreeper

“8000 megatons is nothing to worry about. It’s a very quick way to die.”

Only if you’re relatively close, or on a coast that gets hit by a tsunami. On the grand scale of things, 8,000 MT isn’t so bad. The Chixclub (dinosaur killer) impact was 100,000,000 megatons.

If you’re over 100 mi. away you’ll escape without a scratch if it’s a land strike. At 62 mi. (100 km) here are the results from the U of A impact calculator:

Your Inputs:
Distance from Impact: 100.00 km ( = 62.10 miles )
Projectile diameter: 476.00 meters ( = 1560.00 feet )
Projectile Density: 3000 kg/m3
Impact Velocity: 20.00 km per second ( = 12.40 miles per second )
Impact Angle: 60 degrees
Target Density: 2500 kg/m3
Target Type: Sedimentary Rock

Energy:
Energy before atmospheric entry: 3.39 x 1019 Joules = 8.09 x 103 MegaTons TNT
The average interval between impacts of this size somewhere on Earth during the last 4 billion years is 1.3 x 105years

Major Global Changes:
The Earth is not strongly disturbed by the impact and loses negligible mass.
The impact does not make a noticeable change in the tilt of Earth’s axis (< 5 hundreths of a degree).
The impact does not shift the Earth’s orbit noticeably.

Atmospheric Entry:
The projectile begins to breakup at an altitude of 56600 meters = 186000 ft
The projectile reaches the ground in a broken condition. The mass of projectile strikes the surface at velocity 19.7 km/s = 12.2 miles/s
The impact energy is 3.29 x 1019 Joules = 7.87 x 10^3 MegaTons.
The broken projectile fragments strike the ground in an ellipse of dimension 0.767 km by 0.664 km

Crater Dimensions:

Crater shape is normal in spite of atmospheric crushing; fragments are not significantly dispersed.

Transient Crater Diameter: 6.77 km ( = 4.21 miles )
Transient Crater Depth: 2.39 km ( = 1.49 miles )

Final Crater Diameter: 8.73 km ( = 5.42 miles )
Final Crater Depth: 568 meters ( = 1860 feet )
The crater formed is a complex crater.
The volume of the target melted or vaporized is 0.254 km3 = 0.0609 miles3
Roughly half the melt remains in the crater, where its average thickness is 7.05 meters ( = 23.1 feet ).

Thermal Radiation:

Time for maximum radiation: 325 milliseconds after impact

Visible fireball radius: 5.63 km ( = 3.49 miles )
The fireball appears 12.8 times larger than the sun
Thermal Exposure: 1.33 x 10^6 Joules/m2
Duration of Irradiation: 1.39 minutes
Radiant flux (relative to the sun): 15.9 (Flux from a burner on full at a distance of 10 cm)

Effects of Thermal Radiation:

Much of the body suffers second degree burns
Deciduous trees ignite

Seismic Effects:

The major seismic shaking will arrive approximately 20 seconds after impact.
Richter Scale Magnitude: 7.2
Mercalli Scale Intensity at a distance of 100 km:

VI. Felt by all, many frightened. Some heavy furniture moved; a few instances of fallen plaster. Damage slight.

VII. Damage negligible in buildings of good design and construction; slight to moderate in well-built ordinary structures; considerable damage in poorly built or badly designed structures; some chimneys broken.

Ejecta:

The ejecta will arrive approximately 2.4 minutes after the impact.
At your position there is a fine dusting of ejecta with occasional larger fragments
Average Ejecta Thickness: 1.88 cm ( = 0.739 inches )
Mean Fragment Diameter: 5.49 cm ( = 2.16 inches )

Air Blast:

The air blast will arrive approximately 5.05 minutes after impact.
Peak Overpressure: 26700 Pa = 0.267 bars = 3.79 psi
Max wind velocity: 56.7 m/s = 127 mph
Sound Intensity: 89 dB (Loud as heavy traffic)
Damage Description:

Interior partitions of wood frame buildings will be blown down. Roof will be severely damaged.

Glass windows will shatter.

About 30 percent of trees blown down; remainder have some branches and leaves blown off.

I guess the model is now hosted in the UK, it’s pretty fun to play around with:

http://impact.ese.ic.ac.uk/ImpactEffects/

I doubt you want to be a lot closer than 62 miles... ;-)


29 posted on 06/30/2010 12:28:15 PM PDT by PreciousLiberty (In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not.)
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To: Dallas59

8000 megatons? Could this be Al Gore cruising for chicks?


30 posted on 06/30/2010 12:30:37 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: cripplecreek

Is a disgusting orbit like an eccentric orbit, but grosser?


31 posted on 06/30/2010 12:34:14 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Dallas59

Maybe it will plug the damn hole.


32 posted on 06/30/2010 12:35:46 PM PDT by kanawa
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To: PreciousLiberty

Just for fun, ran the same calculation for an offshore strike 100 km off Southern California. All the effects were greatly diminished except for the fireball (same as above), and:

Tsunami Wave:

The impact-generated tsunami wave arrives approximately 10.8 minutes after impact.

Tsunami wave amplitude is between: 5.7 meters ( = 18.6 feet) and 81.6 meters ( = 268.0 feet).

My guess is the wave would tend towards the upper end of that range... ;-)


33 posted on 06/30/2010 12:36:41 PM PDT by PreciousLiberty (In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not.)
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To: brytlea

“Would it help to run around screaming? I bet not.”

Putting a bag over your head may make you feel better.


34 posted on 06/30/2010 12:38:20 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Dallas59
2010 KH's orbit isn't anywhere near earth's orbit, nor will it ever be, save for an unthinkably cacaclysmic shift of it's orbit. in fact it is just to the inside of Mar's orbit at it's closest point to earth.

Here's a cool interactive orbit diagram for 2010 KH: JPL Small-Body Database Browser (2010 KH)

Once you've seen that, it's pretty hard to get worked up by fearmongering stories of a near miss from this asteroid.

35 posted on 06/30/2010 12:39:51 PM PDT by DCBurgess58 (In a Capitalist society, men exploit other men. In a Communist society it's exactly the opposite.)
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To: Dallas59
Asteroid May Hit The Earth in 2015 8000 Megatons

Not the Earth! That's where I keep my stuff!

36 posted on 06/30/2010 12:40:29 PM PDT by tnlibertarian
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To: Dallas59

I wondered why the 7-11 was out of milk and toilet paper this morning.


37 posted on 06/30/2010 12:45:44 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: Dallas59
"Is It Time To Run Around Monkey Screaming Yet?..."

A very descriptive phrase. Anyone know who originated it?

38 posted on 06/30/2010 12:45:50 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
"Is It Time To Run Around Monkey Screaming Yet?..." A very descriptive phrase. Anyone know who originated it?

I believe it's a French term, normally used when the German's begin crossing the border.

39 posted on 06/30/2010 12:52:23 PM PDT by DCBurgess58 (In a Capitalist society, men exploit other men. In a Communist society it's exactly the opposite.)
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To: bgill

After 4 years of civil war it might even be a relief.


40 posted on 06/30/2010 12:59:44 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop thinking about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Dallas59

I can guess what will happen.

1. They will determine that the asteroid is actually going to hit Earth.

2. NASA and the US military will team up to build a rocket with a nuclear warhead aboard to deflect the asteroid.

3. They will get the rocket built and on the launch pad.

4. 30 seconds before launch the EPA will file an injunction against liftoff on the grounds that the environmental impact study of the effects of the rocket’s exhaust has not been done properly — the document was delivered with a 10-point Helvetica font instead of 12-point Time Roman.

5. It takes two days to get a court to lift the injunction.

6. Rocket launches too late to stop the asteroid from hitting Earth.

7. Asteroid hits Earth, and Obama makes a speech stating we will find who in NASA and the military were responsible for the failure and uses the resulting crisis to increase carbon taxes.


41 posted on 06/30/2010 1:00:28 PM PDT by No Truce With Kings (I can see November from my house.)
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To: Afisra

I’m going to earnestly endeavor to walk my fingers forcefully by that assertion without any witty reply.


42 posted on 06/30/2010 1:02:09 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: cripplecreek

One of his gargantuan dingle berry’s.


43 posted on 06/30/2010 1:03:29 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: DCBurgess58

1870, 1914 and 1940 do support your thesis regarding “monkey screamimg.”


44 posted on 06/30/2010 1:12:43 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: DCBurgess58

1870, 1914 and 1940 do support your thesis regarding “monkey screaming.”


45 posted on 06/30/2010 1:12:54 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: DCBurgess58

1870, 1914 and 1940 do support your thesis regarding “monkey screaming.”


46 posted on 06/30/2010 1:13:03 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

Repeat for effect please.


47 posted on 06/30/2010 1:18:42 PM PDT by PeaRidge
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To: PeaRidge

It does increase the number of views on a thread!


48 posted on 06/30/2010 1:25:00 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: No Truce With Kings

That would be extremely funny if it wasn’t so true! We can’t even make jokes by using extremes while the Leftists have the power. They are living jokes.


49 posted on 06/30/2010 1:27:25 PM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: No Truce With Kings

That would be extremely funny if it wasn’t so true! We can’t even make jokes by using extremes while the Leftists have the power. They are living jokes.


50 posted on 06/30/2010 1:27:46 PM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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