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Thomas Jefferson Used ‘Subjects’ Instead of ‘Citizens’ in Early Declaration of Independence
Fox News.com ^ | 02 Jul 2010 | staff reporter

Posted on 07/02/2010 10:08:50 AM PDT by Daffynition

WASHINGTON - Library of Congress officials say Thomas Jefferson made a Freudian slip while penning a rough draft of the Declaration of Independence.

In an early draft of the document, which is kept under lock and key in one of the Library's vaults, Jefferson referred to the American population as "subjects," then replaced it with the word "citizens," a term he used frequently throughout the final draft.

(Excerpt) Read more at myfoxdc.com ...


TOPICS: Education; History
KEYWORDS: declaration; fortunes; lives; sacredhonor; thomasjefferson

A series of images showing the word "citizens" analyzed under various wavelengths, with certain images enhanced by computer to make the underlying word "subjects" more apparent. (Image Credit: loc.gov)

1 posted on 07/02/2010 10:08:52 AM PDT by Daffynition
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To: Daffynition
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2 posted on 07/02/2010 10:11:16 AM PDT by Daffynition (There is no other cheese.)
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3 posted on 07/02/2010 10:11:32 AM PDT by Daffynition (There is no other cheese.)
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To: Daffynition

HMMMM.

Citizen appears ONE time in the final version.

“He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.”

Further, at the time of the drafting of the declaration, we WERE subjects of the King of England - so no freudian slip at all!

Typical New Age baloney to lessen a PERFECT document!


4 posted on 07/02/2010 10:14:56 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: Daffynition
The citizens, were, subjects at the time he wrote that. They became citizens after they kicked the Kings butt.
5 posted on 07/02/2010 10:16:59 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (If Obama doesn't destroy America, she is indestructible.)
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To: Daffynition

Interesting. I once heard that there was a little-known copy of the Constitution with the word “suckers” in it. Never could pin that one down, though.


6 posted on 07/02/2010 10:16:59 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: An.American.Expatriate

I wonder if you could make a Freudian slip before there was a Freud.

I don’t think that meets the definition anyway. Whenever I write something I always find myself coming up with words that don’t quite mean what I wanted to say and then think of the right word in a later draft.


7 posted on 07/02/2010 10:18:11 AM PDT by gthog61
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To: andy58-in-nh

The word “suckers” appears in the penumbra of the Constitution. It’s right there next to the abortion section.


8 posted on 07/02/2010 10:19:21 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: andy58-in-nh

It’s in C. Montgomery Burns’ basement.


9 posted on 07/02/2010 10:19:25 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: Daffynition

The Declaration ushered in a new era... even for Jefferson. As he penned it, they were subject to the Crown. The point of the document what to sever that connection. It wasn’t freudian... it was reality until he realized that their new reality of equality of all men also meant they were subject to no one. Simple edit... profound change.


10 posted on 07/02/2010 10:19:42 AM PDT by pgyanke (You have no "rights" that require an involuntary burden on another person. Period. - MrB)
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To: Daffynition
They say, never watch how they make hot-dogs (especially if you like them) pass laws, the creating process not very pretty to look at.
I wouldn't call Jefferson's use of the term "subjects" so much as Freudian slip as merely one of cultural usage, familiarity, upbringing whereby the term for everyday members of society were referred to as "subjects" in a land ruled by a King.
11 posted on 07/02/2010 10:20:45 AM PDT by lbryce (Obama Notwithstanding, America's Best Days Are Yet To Be .)
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To: Future Snake Eater

You nailed it ;-)


12 posted on 07/02/2010 10:22:38 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: F.J. Mitchell

And so we will again.


13 posted on 07/02/2010 10:22:51 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: ClearCase_guy

Apparently, it was written in disappearing ink. You need lemon juice and a hair dryer to read it.


14 posted on 07/02/2010 10:24:38 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: Daffynition

At the time that Jefferson wrote it they were all still “subjects” of Great Britain on the verge of becoming “citizens” of a new nation....


15 posted on 07/02/2010 10:25:01 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: gthog61
Whenever I write something I always find myself coming up with words that don’t quite mean what I wanted to say and then think of the right word in a later draft.

No no no, that won't do now at all! How can we possibly imply that Jefferson regarded his fellow citizens as subjects if we allow such claims to stand? His "original intent" was that we are subjects and he disingenuously changed that to citizen to hid his real intent! Darn Old Dead White Man Slave Holder .....

16 posted on 07/02/2010 10:25:42 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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To: Daffynition

As an old man Jefferson wrote to Adams that one of the few pleasures he had in growing old was seeing scientific progress. As a scientist Jefferson would have been extremely impressed to see his mistake discovered hundreds of years later.


17 posted on 07/02/2010 10:26:52 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Daffynition
Thomas Jefferson Used ‘Subjects’ Instead of ‘Citizens’ in Early Declaration of Independence

Don't let Obama and Pelosi find out.

18 posted on 07/02/2010 10:27:50 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Daffynition
Someone is just being picky. We all know that the actual words don't really matter. It's all about the intent as viewed through current social norms. Therefore what Jefferson really meant to say was “our fellow multicultural, sexually ambiguous, subservient sheep”
19 posted on 07/02/2010 10:28:50 AM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: Daffynition

So what.... they were subjects, they then became citizens.

Sadly, today we are citizens, and if Obama and the democrats have their way, we will become subjects.


20 posted on 07/02/2010 10:33:29 AM PDT by Gator113 (OBAMA IS NOT SUSTAINABLE.. IMPEACH OBAMA NOW..)
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To: Dick Bachert

Just as surely as God made little green apples.


21 posted on 07/02/2010 10:40:13 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (If Obama doesn't destroy America, she is indestructible.)
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To: Daffynition
Only the one that was ratified and signed, counts. The others are rough drafts and done by someone who had been one of the King's "subjects".

Old habits are hard to break. My old, Southern grandmother never, ever referred to my bike as a "bicycle", or "bike"...she called it a "wheel". When I rode over to her house, she would ask, "Did you come over her on your wheel?. Obviously a holdover from her childhood when people rode those big wheel bikes, and I think they did call them "wheels" then.
22 posted on 07/02/2010 10:43:16 AM PDT by FrankR ( If we don't stand up to tyranny, the tyrants win, and we're enslaved.)
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To: An.American.Expatriate
Exactly. The summer interns at Fox have completly taken over the news room.


23 posted on 07/02/2010 10:43:53 AM PDT by Daffynition (There is no other cheese.)
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To: FrankR; Daffynition
They were subjects at the time...Old habits are hard to break. My old, Southern grandmother never, ever referred to my bike as a “bicycle”, or “bike”...she called it a “wheel”. When I rode over to her house, she would ask, “Did you come over her on your wheel?. Obviously a holdover from her childhood when people rode those big wheel bikes, and I think they did call them “wheels” then.

I take a completely different perspective on this. As this probably was the 1st draft, the subjects were writing their grievances to the King. But how can subjects who derived their rights from the King, not from God as inherent rights, justify such a course of action? With the smudging, which no doubt took place immediately because of the lightness of the wording underneath & the croosing off in all other places, it would be a more reasonable conclusion that Jefferson realized this grave error rather quickly & corrected it. We have to keep in mind that although the Brit Parliament came in & forced themselves on the colonist, from the beginning, the colonies were always considered separate from that of the Brit Parliament as they were afforded no representation in it. The owed loyalty to the crown, but not Parliaments laws. Each colony had its separate constitution well before the revolution & the laws differed in each state as did the whole of the citizenry of each colony (the ancestry of each colony established, i.e. Holland, Sweden, France, England etc). IOW, not all the colonies(less than half) were of British origin and thus their laws were derived from a completely different ancestry. To get a real grasp of the make up of the colonies, prior to and after the very short rule of the English Parliament (separate from the crown), you need to read ALL the appendixes to St George Tucker's Blackstone. Balckstone's Commentaries are NOT a place to look for original intent of the framers says St George Tucker.

“That neither the common law of England, nor the statutes of that kingdom, were, at any period antecedent to the revolution, the general and uniform law of the land in the British colonies, now constituting the United States.”

http://www.lonang.com/exlibris/tucker/index.html

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2539663/posts?page=83#83

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=lljc&fileName=024/lljc024.db&recNum=90&itemLink=D?hlaw:2:./temp/~ammem_DwR3::%230240091&linkText=1

“John Jay & Washington both were taught in French in grammar school as well as most of the framers that grew up in America. But especially Jay who’s heritage is Dutch and who’s ancestry can be traced back to those 1st Dutch settlements (New Netherlands). It is no coincidence that so much attention was given to the United Netherlands in the Federalist Papers because it was from that heritage that many of the framers had their ancestry in.”

http://www.constitution.org/fed/federa00.htm

24 posted on 07/02/2010 11:45:08 AM PDT by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
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To: Daffynition

It was on this date in 1776 that Congress voted for independence, and John Adams thought that the second day of July would be celebrated as a holiday with bonfires, fireworks, etc. Instead, of course, the date that the declaration was adopted became Independence Day.


25 posted on 07/02/2010 11:52:15 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Daffynition

there is a reason it’s called a DRAFT.


26 posted on 07/02/2010 12:05:00 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (If the little things really bother you, maybe it's because the big things are going well.)
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To: patlin

Wow...that’s deep...I was just speculating.


27 posted on 07/02/2010 12:05:17 PM PDT by FrankR ( If we don't stand up to tyranny, the tyrants win, and we're enslaved.)
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To: Daffynition

So, he changed the subjects?


28 posted on 07/02/2010 12:07:12 PM PDT by No Truce With Kings (I can see November from my house.)
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To: FrankR
That's ok, just spreading the word of America's true heritage & it didn't stem from British rule, quite the contrary. We need to get this history in the hands of every American, especially the youth.
29 posted on 07/02/2010 12:14:13 PM PDT by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
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To: An.American.Expatriate
It actually may represent a dawning in the mind of Jefferson, mid-sentence, that with this document the whole relationship between individuals and government is turned on its head from what had been accepted for thousands of years before. For an historian this is like an astronomer seeing a snapshot of the Big Bang.

People in Europe, even in those countries which have no royal heads of state, still behave like "subjects" instead of "citizens". Our revolution was based on a profound reordering of some very ancient ideas. God - the People - the Government versus God (although He has been largely removed from the equation in modern Europe) - the Government - the People.

Obama, Reid, Nancy Pelosi and their ilk may act like our overlords but only in violation of this fundamental concept and only so long as we permit the charade.

30 posted on 07/02/2010 12:36:58 PM PDT by katana (For what is an Irishman ? But a .......)
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To: Daffynition

This is not news. How can LOC get this wrong? Taking credit for someone else’s work. What?

http://www.princeton.edu/~tjpapers/declaration/declaration.html#_ednref10

Check out footnote #10


31 posted on 07/02/2010 3:43:31 PM PDT by KingLudd
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To: bravo whiskey
This is what you get with a generation that doesn't know that Computers were not available at this time in our history. They were in fact REVOLUTIONARIES. Writing such a document was a crime against the KING. By changing subject (of King)to citizen(free people), he was making a declaratory statement. Yes virginia, people use to use a quill pen.
32 posted on 07/03/2010 6:39:43 PM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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