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Boy Maimed by Macy's Escalator Has Finger Reattached
Fox News ^ | JUly 4, 2010 | News Core

Posted on 07/04/2010 5:17:22 AM PDT by sodpoodle

The escalator is currently not in use, confirmed Macy's spokeswoman Elina Kazan.

Wooden escalators have been in operation at the store since 1927.

Two other children have had fingers chopped off by Macy's escalators in recent years.

A four-year-old girl had her right index finger sliced off Oct. 16, 2005, when she tripped at the top step while riding with her father to the third floor. And a two-year-old boy had his left thumb partially severed Dec. 24, 2006, as he rode up to the fourth floor.

"I'm going to try my best to make them remove them and put in better escalators," said Gell-Tejada.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Society
KEYWORDS: escalator; kidsafety; macys
When the first incident occurred, Macys should have provided warnings that parents with small children use the elevators, or immobilized and maintained the escalator as a staircase only. They could have then kept the historic asset in place.
1 posted on 07/04/2010 5:17:23 AM PDT by sodpoodle
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To: sodpoodle

Historic asset my fanny. If it slices off kids fingers over and over it’s got to go.


2 posted on 07/04/2010 5:32:22 AM PDT by Mere Survival (The time to fight was yesterday but now will have to do.)
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To: sodpoodle
The escalator has been in operation since 1927, and it's only recently that there have been accidents? Amazing. So either Macy needs to replace the escalators, or improve the intelligence of its customer base.

Or maybe it's just a poorly written story.

3 posted on 07/04/2010 5:35:23 AM PDT by Bernard (One if by Land, Two if by Sea, Three if by Government)
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To: Mere Survival; Bernard

The wooden escalator is almost 100 years’ old. My suggestion to immobilize it and convert it to a stationary staircase would eliminate the risk to children and perhaps cell phone distracted adults.

As Bernard has noted - the problem with the escalator has only emerged in the past few years. What has changed? The equipment or the customers?


4 posted on 07/04/2010 5:42:03 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: Clemenza

Look what they’re gonna try to get rid of at Macy’s...


5 posted on 07/04/2010 5:42:42 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: sodpoodle

The pit bull of escalators?


6 posted on 07/04/2010 5:46:59 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Tagline vitriol postponed until July 25, 2010)
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To: sodpoodle

oh fer cryin’ out loud

“When the first incident occurred, Macys should have provided warnings that parents with small children use the elevators.”

I agree.


7 posted on 07/04/2010 5:47:27 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: sodpoodle

As I pointed out, it could also be bad reporting. Just because the article writer didn’t mention any previous accidents doesn’t mean they didn’t happen. It does seem amazing that the machine could run for 80 years without incident and then suddenly have 3 accidents in less than 10 years.


8 posted on 07/04/2010 5:48:14 AM PDT by Bernard (One if by Land, Two if by Sea, Three if by Government)
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To: sodpoodle

ANY escalator is dangerous. You should see the things that repairmen find in the pit, shoes, packages.......that grid at the bottom or top will remove toes if you don’t step on it correctly.


9 posted on 07/04/2010 5:48:57 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: nuconvert

First, they took our common sense. Then they took our Constitution.


10 posted on 07/04/2010 5:49:25 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: DJ MacWoW
ANY escalator is dangerous.

Especially if you're a Democrat.
11 posted on 07/04/2010 6:01:45 AM PDT by MaryFromMichigan
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To: sodpoodle

I don’t think we know if this is a recent problem or not. The story doesn’t say, and my bet is only Macy’s and past victims would know that, Macy’s isn’t going to admit it to a reporter from FOX calling them and the reporter doesn’t know the victims names to call them either.

In tort law you take the victim as you find them under most state law. Example is the “glass jaw.” If you assault someone and they happen to have unusually weak bones . . . you are liable for the damaage you do, pain and suffering etc, even if an ordinary person would not be injured. Even if the customers protection of their children has changed, the change is probably in the perception of the safety of the escalators, since modern escalators don’t chop off children’s fingers over and over again. And Macy’s is obligated to create a safe environment for their customers, particularly children who are less able to protect themselves.


12 posted on 07/04/2010 6:01:47 AM PDT by Mere Survival (The time to fight was yesterday but now will have to do.)
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To: MaryFromMichigan

I loved that video! LOL


13 posted on 07/04/2010 6:05:46 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

:)


14 posted on 07/04/2010 6:08:26 AM PDT by MaryFromMichigan
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To: Mere Survival

Still, someone could be injured on a escalator - any style of escalator - in various ways I would assume. Children use these as amusement park rides all the time. Please, please, please, Parents, monitor your children and use common sense.


15 posted on 07/04/2010 6:09:34 AM PDT by ElayneJ
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To: Mere Survival
And Macy’s is obligated to create a safe environment for their customers, particularly children who are less able to protect themselves.

Where to begin. Have you watched parents with children on escalators? Do you see the idiot parents tell their kids NOT to drag/slide their fingers near the handrail? I heard it constantly as a kid in the 50's. This goes right along with idiot parents that now want warning labels on hot dogs and popcorn as choking hazards. Oh and don't use a screwdriver near your eye.

16 posted on 07/04/2010 6:12:49 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: sodpoodle

They also could have had an attendent at the elevator warning people with children


17 posted on 07/04/2010 6:12:57 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: DJ MacWoW

And don’t use your electric hair dryer while you’re in the bathtub.


18 posted on 07/04/2010 6:16:35 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: sodpoodle

Lucky kid, it could have been worse!


19 posted on 07/04/2010 6:16:42 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: DJ MacWoW

People on the right naturally jump to the defense of corporations because of things like the hot coffee law suit against McDonalds and excesses like that. They sometimes lose sight of the fact that safety improvements in products occur all the time, are good, tort law in part drives that, and people can be culpable where (as it appears in this case) there is an unsafe piece of equipment, they have reason to know it’s unsafe etc. Basically, remember that tort law is in the Anglo/American legal tradition and plays an important and vital function. Corporations can be wrong . . . my bet is they get sued less often than they injure or rip off people (just going by my experience . . . half the crap I buy seems to have some problem or another with it — I have a coffee carafe on a new coffee maker that acts like a dribble cup — no kidding — Mr. Coffee marketed a carafe you can’t pour from without dribbling).

Jury trial might show something different at Macy’s, that the escalator is as safe as any other, but we don’t know that here on FR until an expert in escalators that knows the Macy’s escalator chimes in.


20 posted on 07/04/2010 6:21:16 AM PDT by Mere Survival (The time to fight was yesterday but now will have to do.)
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To: sodpoodle

Maybe cracks have developed in the old escalator because of the settling and shifting of the old building. Cracks that tiny fingers could fit into.


21 posted on 07/04/2010 6:23:00 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Mere Survival

Good points.

The public has certainly been made aware of liability lawsuits and our increasingly litigious society is evidence.

Has it caused us to be more reckless in our behavior and less protective of our children?

Do we believe that no matter what tragedy befalls us - we are wholly blameless, that someone else is at fault and should pay to make us whole?

Modern escalators can also be quite treacherous. They have warning signs and emergency buttons - but still snag careless shoelaces because moving parts actually move;)


22 posted on 07/04/2010 6:27:22 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: Mere Survival
People on the right naturally jump to the defense of corporations

No. My husband is an elevator troubleshooter and has, on occasion, worked on an escalator. They routinely eat shoes and packages because idiots think they are toys. Or a fun ride.

And parents are getting dumber.

23 posted on 07/04/2010 6:28:27 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Ditter
Maybe cracks have developed in the old escalator because of the settling and shifting of the old building. Cracks that tiny fingers could fit into.

A state inspector would shut it down in a heartbeat.

24 posted on 07/04/2010 6:30:50 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Ditter

Make that city inspector.


25 posted on 07/04/2010 6:32:15 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: sodpoodle

This is a question of facts not an idealogical question in my view. Is Macy’s negligent or even reckless in operating that escalator? I don’t think we have the facts to know the answer.


26 posted on 07/04/2010 6:33:54 AM PDT by Mere Survival (The time to fight was yesterday but now will have to do.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

And parents are getting dumber.
__________________________________

Nope. IQ is actually increasing : P


27 posted on 07/04/2010 6:35:38 AM PDT by Mere Survival (The time to fight was yesterday but now will have to do.)
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To: sodpoodle

24 posts and no mallrats references? Cmon people


28 posted on 07/04/2010 6:37:05 AM PDT by downwdims (It does not take a majority to prevail... but rather an irate, tireless minority)
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To: sodpoodle

http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&source=imghp&q=macy%27s+wooden+escalator&gbv=2&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=


29 posted on 07/04/2010 6:38:22 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (It's not the Obama Administration....it's the "Obama Regime".)
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To: Mere Survival
Fine. They lack common sense.

ANY escalator will rip a childs finger if they drag them on the side near a handrail. Those handrails are simply large belts. Remember the loose shoelace fad? Escalators ripped the shoes off of peoples feet because the teeth grabbed them. And the Croc shoe fad. There was a rash of children hurt on escalators while wearing Crocs. Escalators are not amusement rides but parents let their kids "horse around" on them and they DON'T watch their hands.

30 posted on 07/04/2010 6:40:58 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

You get my point; whether Macy’s is negligent requires more facts to fairly evaluate. I agree with you that parents should be careful with children on escalators and the parent can be negligent and responsible for the injury of their child.


31 posted on 07/04/2010 6:47:14 AM PDT by Mere Survival (The time to fight was yesterday but now will have to do.)
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To: Mere Survival

Correct! We are having an open ended discussion on a forum.

It is an opportunity to examine the facts as we know them, what caused this injury, the behavior, the environment, the law, the rules, justice, the biases and belief systems that guide our individual sense of responsibility etc., etc.,

continue.


32 posted on 07/04/2010 6:52:53 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: Mere Survival; ErnBatavia
I don't know your age but, WHAT happened to parental warnings and common sense? I remember a litany of warnings as a kid in the 50's. Safety was drummed into us. But we still had fun.

Parents don't teach their kids the basics anymore and blame everyone else when they choke on hot dogs or run their fingers on the moving parts of an escalator.

The pics that ErnBatavia posted show modern handrails. So it isn't the escalators age.

33 posted on 07/04/2010 6:55:23 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: ErnBatavia

They are quite lovely and must have been well maintained to have functioned for almost a century.

I expect we should demand they be removed and be replaced with metal toe grinders;) Splinters are so yesterday!


34 posted on 07/04/2010 6:57:44 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: sodpoodle
I expect we should demand they be removed and be replaced with metal toe grinders;) Splinters are so yesterday!

LOL!!!

I grew up scared to death of escalators. I was told they would eat toes and fingers.

35 posted on 07/04/2010 6:59:32 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Gotta love the scene from “Elf” in which Buddy rides an escalator for the first time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1jaCR_rAzg


36 posted on 07/04/2010 7:19:55 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: sodpoodle

Video of Macy’s wooden escalator.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImdQ0jkpEYE


37 posted on 07/04/2010 7:26:14 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

LOL!!! I used to get my heels caught in between the wood ones.


38 posted on 07/04/2010 7:52:21 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

*scratches head*

I wear crocs (ugly, but so comfy!) and I’m not seeing how this one goes. If your shoes fit properly and you step lively when you’re supposed to rather than shuffling like a drunk, that shoe isn’t going anywhere or getting caught on a properly maintained escalator.


39 posted on 07/04/2010 9:20:07 AM PDT by Fire_on_High (Trijicon, the scope of CRUSADERS!!)
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To: Fire_on_High

Unless you’re a kid and walk out of them while getting off. Actually I didn’t pay a lot of attention as to how the accidents with kids happened. I don’t wear Crocs and my kids are adults.


40 posted on 07/04/2010 9:49:26 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Fire_on_High

And too, maybe the knock-offs don’t fit kids as well. I just heard about the rash of hurt feet. *shrugs*


41 posted on 07/04/2010 9:51:29 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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