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Man kills self inside Valpo gun range (Indiana)
Northwest Indiana Times ^ | July 13, 2010 | Ken Kosky

Posted on 07/13/2010 2:11:07 PM PDT by KeyLargo

the times

Man kills self inside Valpo gun range

By Ken Kosky ken.kosky@nwi.com | Posted: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 4:00 pm

VALPARAISO | Valparaiso police said a 60-year-old Valparaiso man shot himself to death Tuesday afternoon inside the gun range at Blythe's Sport Shop, 2810 N. Calumet Ave.

The man, whose name was not immediately released, was taken to Porter Valparaiso Hospital Campus after the shooting for treatment of a gunshot wound to the head. He died a short time later, according to Porter County Coroner Bob Schulte.

Valparaiso police spokesman Sgt. Michael Grennes said the man was in the range test-firing a handgun belonging to Blythe's when he turned the gun on himself. He fired a single shot to the head, Grennes said. Grennes said the man obtained the gun by expressing interest in buying it.

Grennes said all indications are that the shooting was not an accident, that the man intentionally shot himself.

The shooting occurred about 12:20 p.m. Tuesday and the man was transported by Valparaiso Fire Department medics.


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: banglist; control; guns; indiana; shoot; suicide
Blythe's

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1 posted on 07/13/2010 2:11:10 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

This has happened 3 times over the years at the range I go to.


2 posted on 07/13/2010 2:12:25 PM PDT by WackySam (To argue with a man who has renounced his reason is like giving medicine to the dead.)
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To: WackySam
And more from the the Chicago area media about guns. Jul 13, 2010 11:14 am US/Central Should Police Use Bird Paradise As Shooting Range? Reporting Mike Puccinelli CHICAGO (CBS) ― CBS numSlides of totalImages It's 33 acres of land filled with trees, grass and plants. It's home to rare birds and other wildlife, and it's in the city of Chicago. But Chicago police want to turn the space into a state-of-the-art, outdoor shooting. As CBS 2's Mike Puccinelli reports, environmentalists say it's a risky idea. http://cbs2chicago.com/local/birds.shooting.range.2.1800774.html
3 posted on 07/13/2010 2:15:17 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo; WackySam

Yeah, why use your own gun when you can rent one?

The GunGrabbers are gonna have a field day with this one.


4 posted on 07/13/2010 2:15:30 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: WackySam

I know a small local range that had it happen twice within a short period. It makes me avoid ranges anymore.


5 posted on 07/13/2010 2:16:31 PM PDT by Frantzie (Democrats = Party of I*lam)
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To: KeyLargo

Wonder what “lead” him to do that?


6 posted on 07/13/2010 2:17:32 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Vendome

It was the only target he could hit.


7 posted on 07/13/2010 2:20:30 PM PDT by boomop1
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To: Frantzie

What if you had a members only range? Would there be a good way of doing that? That would be cool to build a members only range


8 posted on 07/13/2010 2:22:06 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: KeyLargo

Remember, there are no “do overs” in suicide. Once it is done, its DONE. Then you’ll be facing the Almighty and will have to give account for everything you have done or said in your life.

That scenario is far more fearful for me than anything in this life.


9 posted on 07/13/2010 2:23:20 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: Frantzie

I always check my six (for those unfamiliar with the term), it means beware of what is going on behind you when you are at the range. I keep a fully loaded pistol on me when I am shooting other firearms as some insurance in the event some guy decides to go postal when I am reloading my weapons on the range. Or in the event that someone tries to do a stick-up of me or others on the range in order to get weapons.


10 posted on 07/13/2010 2:26:58 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

My local range would doesnt allow / strongly discourages a single person coming in and renting a gun all by him or herself anymore. Too many incidents like this.


11 posted on 07/13/2010 2:27:32 PM PDT by ▀udda▀udd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona.....)
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To: KeyLargo
Went to the L.A. gun club shooting range recently.

The neighborhood they were located in was better advertisement for “Hey, maybe I need a gun?” than anything else I have seen.

They had a standard policy that if you came to the range alone, they will NOT rent you a gun. I read the sign and immediately knew that it was to avoid this type of situation.

If a guy has his own gun, he doesn't need to rent yours, or come to your place of business to shoot himself. If a guy is coming in with a friend, he most likely isn't going to blow out his brains with the gun you rented to him.

Blythe's should adopt a similar policy. Keeps down on having to clean brains off plate glass windows.... brain leaves streaks!

12 posted on 07/13/2010 2:27:54 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

Yeah. Generally any ranges that rent guns or let you try them out have these suicides. The problem is they make money selling guns so if they cut out people testing them - it hurts business. Not a fun business to be unless you can afford a really big operation.


13 posted on 07/13/2010 2:28:55 PM PDT by Frantzie (Democrats = Party of I*lam)
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To: Vendome

Probably an old guy with no money and no hope. This economy is brutal on seniors or people nearing retirement.


14 posted on 07/13/2010 2:30:16 PM PDT by Frantzie (Democrats = Party of I*lam)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out
Ranges that have had this occur usually discontinue their handgun rentals. That seems to be the most effective way of stopping this sort of thing from happening. The logic is sound - if someone already owns a gun, they can blow their brains out elsewhere.

The majority of these cases involve gun rentals - but not all (like that batshit-crazy woman who killed her own son at a range last year or so).

15 posted on 07/13/2010 2:32:34 PM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: KeyLargo

I understand. I get really spooked sometimes so I stopped going. Cowboys with 1911s and .44s who get sloppy. People not paying attention to gun safety.

The fear that some poor soul like this man wants to end it. The guy at the range said if you ever encounter it - don’t try to stop them.


16 posted on 07/13/2010 2:33:08 PM PDT by Frantzie (Democrats = Party of I*lam)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

Texas Thunder Range in San Antonio. Nice facility, WAAAYY too expensive, and you have to buy their indoor ammo - can’t bring in your own. At $20 -$23 a box for my .40, I opted to go back outside.

Colonel, USAFR


17 posted on 07/13/2010 2:34:11 PM PDT by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: KeyLargo

There have been 4 of these in the Milwaukee area this year.


18 posted on 07/13/2010 2:35:01 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Southeast Wisconsin)
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To: KeyLargo

RIP.


19 posted on 07/13/2010 2:35:41 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: Frantzie

“Probably an old guy with no money and no hope. This economy is brutal on seniors or people nearing retirement.”

Elderly and Expendable

Posted By Tait Trussell On June 17, 2010

The Obama Administration and the President’s pals in Congress have been on a deliberate course to write off America’s senior citizens as a lost cause politically. This decision is based on an internal Democrat study indicating that seniors don’t trust Obama.

The Democrats, in fact, have stiffed the country’s seniors: ranging from multi-billion dollar cuts in Medicare [1] to driving physicians to drop seniors as patients by delaying [2] and cutting federal reimbursements to such medical specialists as cardiologists and oncologists, who treat the biggest killers of seniors–heart disease and cancer.

The disdain toward seniors has included cuts in home health care [3] and payments to hospitals to new taxes on medical devices [4] on which many seniors depend. Add to this: increases in the medicare tax [5] on some working seniors and cancellation of the traditional cost-of-living boost to Social Security checks [6] for 2010 and 2011.

During the stretched-out debate over the new health law, seniors continually heard that Medicare would be slashed by $500 billion. The final bill’s provisions included $132 billion chopped from Medicare Advantage, [7] the enhanced private version of Medicare in which 25 percent of seniors are enrolled....

https://bsimmons.wordpress.com/2010/06/17/16349/


20 posted on 07/13/2010 2:36:25 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

Older people, seniors and baby boomers who voted for him really screwed themselves.


21 posted on 07/13/2010 2:41:20 PM PDT by Frantzie (Democrats = Party of I*lam)
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To: Frantzie

I was vacationing in New Hampshire a couple of years ago and rented a handgun. However when I went out to the firing line I discovered next to me were some punks with an AR15 fully auto that they rented. I saw them getting a quick lesson from the counter guy beforehand. I didn’t fire a shot. I turned around and told the guy behind the counter to give me my money back. I can’t believe that they allow that on a range.


22 posted on 07/13/2010 2:41:55 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Eff! If I lived in Milwaukee it might be an option. I have never been but I heard it was a nice town a LONG time ago.


23 posted on 07/13/2010 2:43:30 PM PDT by Frantzie (Democrats = Party of I*lam)
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To: boomop1

so you’re saying he had a real head for it?


24 posted on 07/13/2010 2:44:25 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Soothesayer9

Well put.


25 posted on 07/13/2010 2:45:11 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Never trust anyone who points their rear end at God while praying.)
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To: KeyLargo

Whoa! That would scared me and I would have left too. I always check all around because so people are not careful.

I bet the range liked it cause the kids probably burned through a lot of .223 ammo.


26 posted on 07/13/2010 2:48:34 PM PDT by Frantzie (Democrats = Party of I*lam)
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To: KeyLargo

“test-firing a handgun belonging to Blythe’s when he turned the gun on himself.”

Yep. It works.


27 posted on 07/13/2010 2:48:59 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Soothesayer9

Some people were never meant to be born. They know nothing but despair their entire lives. Then they die (usually by their own hands) and get an eternity of additional torture.

Best solution is for everyone to stop having kids but there is no hope for the ones already here.


28 posted on 07/13/2010 2:50:16 PM PDT by Soothesayer (“None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license...")
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To: KeyLargo
Grennes said the man obtained the gun by expressing interest in buying it.

I guess it all depends on what the meaning of “buying it” is.

29 posted on 07/13/2010 2:52:06 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?)...R.I.P.)
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To: RichInOC

He “bought it”, alright.


30 posted on 07/13/2010 2:55:13 PM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: KeyLargo
Or in the event that someone tries to do a stick-up of me or others on the range in order to get weapons.

Boy, attempting an armed robbery at a gun range. Talk about having brass ones.

31 posted on 07/13/2010 2:57:28 PM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: KeyLargo

I was just there, a couple weeks ago with a couple of my friends, because its close to them.


34 posted on 07/13/2010 4:40:51 PM PDT by jkeith3213
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To: KeyLargo

God rest his soul. I hope he is at peace now.


35 posted on 07/13/2010 5:23:02 PM PDT by 1949american
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To: KeyLargo

Were you at the manchester firing line? I used to shoot there every week when I lived in Nashua years ago. Great FA rentals.

I arrived at the MFL about 3 hours after a suicide one time. The place was already cleaned up and you would have never known it had happened.

People are going to kill themselves. Restricting rentals doesn’t prevent suicide anymore then childproof asprin bottles. It’s tragic, but inevidable.


36 posted on 07/13/2010 6:56:18 PM PDT by Dayman
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

All it would do is raise the cost of suicide by the membership fee.


37 posted on 07/14/2010 8:40:21 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Remember, guys, the enemy is to the left and the middle.)
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To: Soothesayer9

Just what is it that you’ve done in your life that makes you fear death so much? Don’t you look forward to meeting Him?


38 posted on 07/14/2010 8:41:48 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Remember, guys, the enemy is to the left and the middle.)
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To: B4Ranch

Bear in mind that even Elijah, Isaiah, Daniel, etc were “trembling” in the face of the Lord. Most of the apostles were afraid as well (”Who is this man, that even the seas obey him!”).

Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, as the proverb goes.


39 posted on 07/14/2010 10:33:56 AM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: Dayman
Restricting rentals doesn’t prevent suicide anymore then childproof asprin bottles. It’s tragic, but inevidable.

It may be inevitable, but if I were a range owner, I'd rather it be carried out elsewhere.

40 posted on 07/14/2010 10:41:09 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: KeyLargo

I am sure others have pointed this out but many ranges utilize a mandatory “buddy” system with no rentals to lone individuals.


41 posted on 07/14/2010 11:35:55 AM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (1.416785(71) x 10^32 frwv)
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To: Soothesayer9

I will admit that I admire the Lord, I certainly don’t fear him. Why would I worship anyone who I’m afraid of? I guess our religious beliefs are worlds apart. I feel that if you’ve led a good life then there is no need for this fear you speak of.


42 posted on 07/14/2010 11:41:50 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Remember, guys, the enemy is to the left and the middle.)
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To: happinesswithoutpeace

“Porter County Coroner Bob Schulte says the man’s death was caught on camera, which shows the man shooting himself. No one was with him, but there were bystanders in the area.”

Man, 60, shoots self in head at Valparaiso range

A Valparaiso man shot himself to death on Tuesday while test-firing a handgun at the Blythe Sports Shop shooting range, in what the Porter County Coroner’s Office is calling a suicide.

Valparaiso Police did not release the man’s name.

The incident occurred around 12:30 p.m., Cpl. Mike Grennes of the VPD told the Chesterton Tribune on Tuesday, after the 60-year-old man entered the store at 2810 Calumet Ave. purportedly to shop for a handgun. The man chose a handgun of unspecified make and model and asked to test-shoot it at the range, Grennes said, and once inside the range shot himself in the head.

Coroner Robert Schulte said that the man first fired several test shots with the .357 caliber handgun and then “turned around and used the gun on himself.”

Valparaiso Fire Department EMS personnel transported the man to Porter Valparaiso Hospital Campus, where he was pronounced dead at 1 p.m.

Schulte has ruled the man’s death a suicide.

Schulte said that the incident was recorded by a surveillance camera installed in the range and witnessed by bystanders but that the man came into the business by himself.

No autopsy has been ordered, Schulte added, but the results of a toxicology screen are pending.

http://www.chestertontribune.com/PoliceFireEmergency/714108%20man_shoots_self_at_blythes_shoot.htm


43 posted on 07/14/2010 2:20:48 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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