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Spiral galaxies and homopolar motors
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2005/arch05/050415milkyway.htm ^

Posted on 07/13/2010 7:10:26 PM PDT by wendy1946

Wikipedia describes the concept of a homopolar motor:

A homopolar motor has a magnetic field along the axis of rotation and an electric current that at some point is not parallel to the magnetic field. The name homopolar refers to the absence of polarity change.

Homopolar motors necessarily have a single-turn coil, which limits them to very low voltages. This has restricted the practical application of this type of motor....

...The homopolar motor was the first ever device to produce rotation from electromagnetism itself. It was first built and demonstrated by Michael Faraday in 1821 at the Royal Institution in London...

Ever wonder what makes a spiral galaxy such as our Milky Way spin?

Same basic thing. X-ray telescopes are turning up pictures of the actual center of our galaxy and what the pictures show is a homopolar motor

Numerous other cosmic objects turn out to be the same thing:

The Thunderbolts forum article describes the phenomenon thus:

....A much different thought system sees the electric force as more fundamental than gravity. When considering new images from space, proponents of the Electric Universe emphasize structures that were never anticipated by the gravitational models but that were predicted by plasma cosmologists. As demonstrated in numerous laboratory experiments, electric currents in plasma can produce all of the common structures observed in the heavens, from simple filaments to the polar jets of stars and galaxies to the “wheels within wheels” found at the cores of nebulas and other high-energy formations. ....


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; haltonarp

1 posted on 07/13/2010 7:10:28 PM PDT by wendy1946
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To: wendy1946

It really doesn’t matter which way those motors swing... as long as they are happy. :>)


2 posted on 07/13/2010 7:14:02 PM PDT by irishtenor (Tag lines, they are not what they used to be...)
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To: wendy1946

heh heh heh... you said ‘homo’


3 posted on 07/13/2010 7:14:49 PM PDT by Mr. K (Physically unable to proofread- I swear I try!)
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To: wendy1946

The seven faculty rules at the University of Woolloomooloo:

1. No poofters.
2. No member of the faculty is to maltreat the “Abos” in any way whatsoever—if there’s anyone watching.
3. No poofters.
4. I don’t want to catch anyone not drinking in their room after lights out.
5. No poofters.
6. There is no... rule six.
7. No poofters.


4 posted on 07/13/2010 7:16:41 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: irishtenor

I always thought this motor was kinda ac/dc.


5 posted on 07/13/2010 7:20:45 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (You can evade reality, but you cannot evade the consequences of evading reality. ~Ayn Rand)
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To: ClearCase_guy
You're talking about this sort of thing??


6 posted on 07/13/2010 7:25:38 PM PDT by wendy1946
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To: Larry Lucido

So... homopolar, bipolar. Sounds like they have a problem, eh?


7 posted on 07/13/2010 7:25:55 PM PDT by irishtenor (Tag lines, they are not what they used to be...)
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To: wendy1946

That’s funny!!!!!!!!!!!!


8 posted on 07/13/2010 7:26:33 PM PDT by irishtenor (Tag lines, they are not what they used to be...)
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To: wendy1946
I have often wondered why galaxies spin. It seems to be due to some sort of gravitational pull, but the Galaxy's themselves are light years apart from their centers to their spiral arms. How can this be if the fastest thing is supposed to be light? How can the center of each Galaxy which is thought to be a black hole, effect something light years away?
9 posted on 07/13/2010 7:31:04 PM PDT by Frenchtown Dan
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To: Frenchtown Dan

Gravity has nothing to do with how spiral galaxies work, that’s the whole point. In fact gravity could not even begin to hold galaxies together given the distances and sizes involved. Other kinds of things which we read about in the media, such as black holes, also turn out to be fiction.


10 posted on 07/13/2010 7:40:43 PM PDT by wendy1946
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To: wendy1946

I see a pregnant Madonna in the last picture...time to go to bed.


11 posted on 07/13/2010 7:42:35 PM PDT by leenie312
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To: wendy1946

Fascinating. Even nebula act this way. If this is a constant for all charged formations, we may have a glimpse into a unified state.


12 posted on 07/13/2010 7:49:45 PM PDT by tanuki (Obamacare, Cap and Tax, Amnesty, in that order....)
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To: Frenchtown Dan

The exact counter to the speed of light is the speed of dark.


13 posted on 07/13/2010 7:50:37 PM PDT by irishtenor (Tag lines, they are not what they used to be...)
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To: Fred Nerks

fyi


14 posted on 07/13/2010 7:53:43 PM PDT by wendy1946
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To: wendy1946

Ok, so what does hold galaxies together? Why do the spiral arms rotate around the center? Why don’t they just fly apart? Why do they look just like a hurricane?

Must be some kind of force not yet determined or explained that I know of. I’ve never heard of a concrete explanation, but then again, I’m just a layman.


15 posted on 07/13/2010 8:04:58 PM PDT by Frenchtown Dan
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To: irishtenor

Yes, I know the speed of dark well. It’s what is currently leading this country into the abyss.


16 posted on 07/13/2010 8:14:17 PM PDT by Frenchtown Dan
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To: wendy1946

bflr


17 posted on 07/13/2010 8:31:08 PM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: Frenchtown Dan

:>O


18 posted on 07/13/2010 8:31:27 PM PDT by irishtenor (Tag lines, they are not what they used to be...)
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To: Frenchtown Dan; wendy1946

THUNDERBOLTS OF THE GODS:

video
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4773590301316220374#


19 posted on 07/13/2010 8:37:19 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: wendy1946
A homopolar motor

The main propulsion for the Democratic party. And, it appears, for Pakistan.

20 posted on 07/13/2010 9:08:34 PM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: wendy1946
first built and demonstrated by Michael Faraday in 1821 at the Royal Institution in London...

I didn't realize that Duracell batteries and sheetrock screws were available to Faraday.

Seriously, though, what is your evidence against black holes?

21 posted on 07/13/2010 9:27:57 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: A. Patriot; AndrewC; antonia; aristotleman; Carilisa; commonguymd; dozer7; Dustbunny; Eaker; ...
Monopolar electric motors drive galaxies? PING!

If you want on or off the Electric Universe Ping List, Freepmail me.

22 posted on 07/13/2010 11:45:38 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Larry Lucido; humblegunner; Eaker; Allegra; Salamander; TheOldLady; Markos33
Do they use homopolar motors to power blogs?

(And are the blogger's homomotors furry?)
23 posted on 07/13/2010 11:52:04 PM PDT by shibumi ( "Tsuru no Sugomori")
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To: shibumi

“Ok, so what does hold galaxies together? Why do the spiral arms rotate around the center? Why don’t they just fly apart? Why do they look just like a hurricane?

Must be some kind of force not yet determined or explained that I know of.”

Phi knows.


24 posted on 07/13/2010 11:59:43 PM PDT by Salamander (If I'm too rough, tell me.......I'm so scared your little head will come off in my hands......)
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To: Salamander
"42"

25 posted on 07/14/2010 12:05:13 AM PDT by shibumi ( "Tsuru no Sugomori")
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To: shibumi

/facepalm


26 posted on 07/14/2010 2:26:52 AM PDT by Salamander (If I'm too rough, tell me.......I'm so scared your little head will come off in my hands......)
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To: Salamander
Must be some kind of force not yet determined or explained that I know of.”

Electromagnetizm. Nothing fancier than that is needed. It's as clear as day in some cases:

A good example is the spiral galaxy shown above. The arms, particularly the upper arm, show material being held in a straight line until some point at which the field breaks down, after which material very quickly trails away and dissipates. Gravity and inertia cannot do things like that.

27 posted on 07/14/2010 4:28:53 AM PDT by wendy1946
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To: wendy1946

Homopolar.

Gay Eskimo?


28 posted on 07/14/2010 4:31:23 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (For the first time in half a century, there is no former KKK member in the US Senate.)
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To: hellbender
Seriously, though, what is your evidence against black holes?

For starters, if there actually was a black hole at the center of our galaxy, you'd see material streaming into it from all directions, and not spinning around the core of the galaxy as the images actually show.

Things like black holes and dark matter are requirements of a paradigm which posits that gravity, the weakest force in nature, controls the cosmos at a macro level.

The basic problem is the distances and sizes involved. Our own sun and Alpha Centauri for instance comprise a system roughly comparable to two dust motes four miles apart. That's typical for our galaxy, and gravity simply cannot hold two dust motes together from four miles distance.Even the laughable claim that "dark matter(TM)" comprises 95% of the universe doesn't help the picture; that amounts to a claim that gravity can hold two dust motes together from one tenth of a mile apart, and that doesn't happen in real life either.

29 posted on 07/14/2010 4:39:41 AM PDT by wendy1946
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To: wendy1946
Homopolar motors

Isn't that the car company that builds the Prius?

30 posted on 07/14/2010 4:48:09 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: wendy1946; shibumi

We’ve found another “I Sing The Universe, Electric” person!


31 posted on 07/14/2010 4:57:21 AM PDT by Salamander (If I'm too rough, tell me.......I'm so scared your little head will come off in my hands......)
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To: Swordmaker

Way cool Bttt!


32 posted on 07/14/2010 5:56:40 AM PDT by valkyry1
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To: Frenchtown Dan

What that is telling you IMO, is that our models and theory’s of the universe are just that, and the universe will operate with our models and theory’s not standing.


33 posted on 07/14/2010 6:05:19 AM PDT by valkyry1
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To: Salamander

The evolutionist will find a way to work it into his answer to you that there is no god, whether they do it subtly or overtly.

I could go on but that would be thread hi-jack.


34 posted on 07/14/2010 6:11:17 AM PDT by valkyry1
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To: wendy1946

Obviously that is a huge galaxy. Is that a quasar on the lower right? The thing is so bright it is burning up the film/ccd.


35 posted on 07/14/2010 6:15:03 AM PDT by valkyry1
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To: valkyry1

That entire image at the top is the center of our own galaxy from xray telescopes. The bright red thing I believe is Sagatarus A (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagittarius_A*) which some view as a ‘black hole’, assuming they believe in black holes...


36 posted on 07/14/2010 2:59:59 PM PDT by wendy1946
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To: valkyry1

Anyone who tries to convince me that there’s no God is wasting both of our time....:)


37 posted on 07/14/2010 4:16:19 PM PDT by Salamander (If I'm too rough, tell me.......I'm so scared your little head will come off in my hands......)
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To: Swordmaker; 75thOVI; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; aristotleman; ...
I *wondered* what was up with those motors. Thanks Swordmaker.
 
Catastrophism
 
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38 posted on 07/14/2010 5:11:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: SunkenCiv

http://www.johnspeedie.com/healy/saywhat.wav


39 posted on 07/14/2010 8:16:54 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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