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Shocking new rant from Mel
NY Post ^ | July 14, 2010 | David K. Li

Posted on 07/14/2010 5:40:41 AM PDT by Scanian

Mad Mel Gibson sadistically sneers, "I own you!" to his baby mama in yet another expletive-laced phone recording that surfaced yesterday.

The raging actor spits the demeaning words out at ex-gal-pal Oksana Grigorieva as the pair battle over whether she could hire a domestic for their infant daughter, Lucia.

"You're a f - - king using whore! Now, I own you!" Gibson reportedly tells Grigorieva over the phone during the 6-minute rant posted on RadarOnline.

"Do not use [the domestic] at your house! I have warned you she will be fired if she goes to your house. You find that [expletive] and you find some other money that's not mine, OK?"

The out-of-control star can't resist throwing in a racial slur, adding that if Grigorieva tries to hire the worker, "I will report her to the f - - king people who take f - - king money from the wetbacks, OK?"

It's the third repulsive, sexist, racist recording of Gibson, 54, posted in less than a week.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Music/Entertainment; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: abuse; celebritygossip; gibson; grigorieva; melgibson; racism; sexism
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1 posted on 07/14/2010 5:40:43 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian

Yikes. I’d bet Nicole Simpson received a few phone calls like this in her final months.


2 posted on 07/14/2010 5:45:08 AM PDT by riri
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To: Scanian
I like Mel, but he is both an alcoholic and a manic-depressive (bad, but not uncommon combination).

When people like that get drunk and angry...they say and do outrageous things that they would not normally do--things completely out of character.

3 posted on 07/14/2010 5:46:51 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (Does building demolition count as a Muslim engineering achievement?)
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To: Scanian

Mel - sorry, bipolar fueled rants are not your friend.


4 posted on 07/14/2010 5:47:33 AM PDT by ImProudToBeAnAmerican (Tom Daschle is deeply saddened... Remember him? Bahahahahahahahahaha!)
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To: Scanian
the pair battle over whether she could hire a domestic for their infant daughter

A domestic what?

Poor little baby. I wish she could come live with me.

5 posted on 07/14/2010 5:48:47 AM PDT by Tax-chick (We made a proactive decision to postpone the originally scheduled nightlife activities.)
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To: Scanian

He’s lost his mind.


6 posted on 07/14/2010 5:50:50 AM PDT by navymom1
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

I didn’t know he was bipolar. I would suppose the alcohol would be his way to self medicate. So many creative and talented people are bipolar.


7 posted on 07/14/2010 5:53:13 AM PDT by navymom1
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To: navymom1
He’s lost his mind.

I think it's more like he's bi-polar and an alcoholic and he's being manipulated, very carefully manipulated. They agreed in court mediation that she would get $10,000 a month and he'd get visitation. She reneged the agreement and these tapes, that a judge put a restraining order on, surface.

8 posted on 07/14/2010 5:55:19 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Scanian
sadistically sneers, "I own you!" to his baby mama

His "baby mama"? ...lol, nice journalism.

And Mad Mel's deranged rants are far from "shocking."

9 posted on 07/14/2010 5:58:34 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Scanian

Someone should tell Mel that no one gets money from (Mexican illegals, obviously). It works the other way around.

Or do Australians use that word for for something else ? Is it some Australian sauce or sandwich. And now that i’m thinking about it, whats his immigration status ?


10 posted on 07/14/2010 5:59:06 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: Mr. Mojo

“Baby Mama”. How nice. Very ghetto.


11 posted on 07/14/2010 6:07:06 AM PDT by MGMSwordsman
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To: Celerity
‘And now that i’m thinking about it, whats his immigration status ?’

Natural born American citizen. Born in Peekskill, NY of two American parents.

12 posted on 07/14/2010 6:07:49 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Good night. I expect more respect tomorrow - Danny H (RIP))
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To: Scanian

Public and private faces are very different things- for all of us. I wonder if ANYONE would want a camera and recorder on their private lives? We all have our dark side.
However, that said- this is a celebrity whose anger and violence is ugly indeed. I doubt that he is unique- and I’m quite sure that well- thought of ‘stars’ of the past( I’m thinking, maybe, Errol Flynn)had very ugly sides. What makes GIbson really-cringe-worthy is the contrast of religion( his own church, the Passion) and personal darkness. But then, it is the most guilty who sometimes overcompensate by filling their homes with statues and being publicly uber-pious-until the dark side wins.
Gibson is self-destructive- and there’s no way this ‘girlfriend’ didn’t know before she took up with him. She got a man who would cheat on his wife and leave 8 kids. No prize as a human. But maybe the prize was $$ all along.The baby is money in the bank.
I fell sorry for his ex-wife( did she live through this too?) his children seeing this side of their father, and a baby who has no hope of decent parents.
What a fool. Throw away the family- now the career. Even in this day of ‘apology forgives everything’, the ultimate sin is not the violence but the racist language. Eventually, I believe he would be be forgiven everything- short of murder- except that.


13 posted on 07/14/2010 6:11:45 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: Scanian

Wow....he’s nuts....I would love to know what he is sooo mad about....


14 posted on 07/14/2010 6:12:00 AM PDT by Fawn (I LOVE Arizona!)
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To: Scanian

We all love beating Mel up and I don’t doubt that in some cases, he deserves to be beaten up. But, let’s consider this from another approach - did Oksana set him up? Listen to her responses during his rant. She’s very calm. You can almost hear her smiling on the other end of the phone call that she is recording because she got him to Vesuvius all over her - AGAIN!!

Affairs of the heart are very delicate and, when passions are involved, even the most sane, rational person can be driven over the edge. To date, we’ve only heard Oksana’s side - which means that we have only heard the conversations she has recorded and released to Radar (all the while claiming she knows nothing about the recorded conversations).

I’m not defending Mel, but in all fairness, I think this is one-sided and the DBM is very happy to shine a spotlight on a raging fire.


15 posted on 07/14/2010 6:18:15 AM PDT by DustyMoment
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

I hesitate to disagree with you but I think that the outrageous things are their character.


16 posted on 07/14/2010 6:19:21 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (Navy blue)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

-things completely out of character.

Just curious - how many of these do we have to hear before something goes from being “out of character” to being “in character”? I thought stupid is as stupid does. No?


17 posted on 07/14/2010 6:22:05 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

OOOhhhh... ok.. I always thought he was an Australian. Thank you for the correction.


18 posted on 07/14/2010 6:24:23 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: navymom1

Probably possessed. You knew he’d be a major target after The Passion of The Christ.


19 posted on 07/14/2010 6:26:38 AM PDT by ImaGraftedBranch (...By reading this, you've collapsed my wave function. Thanks.)
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To: Scanian
Good grief people ... how devoid of a real life does one have to be to follow this stuff? Is following and discussing the ugly corners of celebrity lives some kind of hobby?

And, yes, I clicked on this thread just to leave this particular comment. I was prompted by the 10th thread I've seen on this junk. Another part of our society just calved and fell into the waters of depravity.

20 posted on 07/14/2010 6:38:09 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: Scanian

Alcoholism is a progressive disease but I can’t help thinking Oksana is screwing with Mel’s head. There doesn’t seem to be much context to these......she’s calm as a cucumber on the other end and is likely pushing his buttons. Who knows what she has done to screw with him. My ex used to try to do this to me until she realised that she couldn’t get the reactions from me that she was looking for....sometimes people will push your buttons so they can then point at you and say, “See, it’s him/her! He/She is the crazy one.”

Mel is obviously fueled by booze soaked pain and he would have been smart to calmly extricate himself from this situation. It’s hard but I suppose he loses control and whammo, she’s got him. Not that I am condoning anything that he said and the way he is treating her. There’s a baby involved and that should change everything.

Obviously his behaviour is not acceptable with an infant daughter being involved but Oksana should also realise that when dealing with an alcoholic of his advanced nature the best thing to do is go no contact in this type of situation. She seems like she’s trying to destroy him when in fact he needs help, and likely 6 months to a year in an Arizona rehab.


21 posted on 07/14/2010 6:39:29 AM PDT by Catholic Canadian
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

He hit her...and said she deserved it. He’s scum.


22 posted on 07/14/2010 6:47:00 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (WASS!)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten; Shimmer1
As a person who was, as a child, diagnosed with cyclothymia (a milder form of bipolar disorder which has been completely managed with a huge amount of exercise and no drugs), I can tell you that when manic-depressives have an "episode" they say things that, in times of sanity, they do not agree with or hold as true.

The best way normal people can understand this behavior is to remember back to the throes of adolescence when, in a fit of anger, we might have screamed at a parent those famous words "I hate you."

We didn't hate them at all...but when overrun by emotions and hormones, we said things we didn't mean.

Adolescents who experience this are so angry and frustrated with surging hormones and powerful emotions that their limbic systems simply overpower their cerebral cortex (and hence irrational emotion overpowers rational thought).

Take a grownup having a bipolar episode (they're quite similar to the adolescent fits) and add a large dollop of alcohol...and you get Mel Gibson.

I am in no way excusing what he did...he might have even killed someone, even himself.

What I am saying is that he needs to take responsibility for his actions and get immediate help. I can assure you he has been warned of this (by the police, his doctor, and family members).

23 posted on 07/14/2010 6:50:00 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (Does building demolition count as a Muslim engineering achievement?)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
I hear you Son, I have an adult cousin who is bipolar.

He recently had an episode that require hospitalization.

Right before he went in, he stopped by a family celebration.

Everyone was on pins and needles the entire time he was there.

He came over to me, and one moment he was laughing and joking,and within a minute he was in tears crying about his business.

It is a horrible illness and when adding alcohol or other drugs very frightening and dangerous.

24 posted on 07/14/2010 6:56:35 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free, Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: ImaGraftedBranch
Probably possessed. You knew he’d be a major target after The Passion of The Christ.

People will probably mock that comment,but I too believe it is to be factored in to his behavior.

The star of Passion, was interviewed after the movie, and commented that "You do not make a film about the Passion and not get some of it handed to you."

I think most of Mel's demons have been created by his own behavior.

But than aren't most.

25 posted on 07/14/2010 7:03:05 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free, Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: DustyMoment

I agree with you. Not to excuse his out-of-control rage but she is most definitely egging him on in my opinion. She is too calm, too smug, and too in control of that conversation.
She makes sure to say she doesn’t want his money, she has lost her career, and he hit her in the teeth. She is pointedly making talking points in that phone call that only she knows is being recorded. She knows how to push his buttons and she is playing him like a violin.

Interesting a Russian immigrant is taking down an American icon whose career was most recently built on championing freedom & Christianity. (Braveheart, The Passion, The Patriot) Maybe no connection - maybe it’s just the devil himself.


26 posted on 07/14/2010 7:05:50 AM PDT by carmody
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To: DustyMoment

I am with you...I am highly suspicious of Oksana’s motives.

I’ve been married to two women who turned out to be total schemers in the end and they made me the subject of some pretty ugly and FALSE stories. Who can be sure that Mel isn’t reacting—or overreacting—to a similar situation?


27 posted on 07/14/2010 7:11:08 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Well put - thanks for that. Also - I’m a big believer in drugs and exercise being proxies for one another. Interestingly I saw an old film clip of John Lennon where he made a similar comment. He said he preferred heroin to exercise or something like that. Not that I agree with that choice :) - but it again confirms my intuition that the two substitute one for another. I think this is information that is somewhat well known, but not nearly well known enough. It might be that drug seeking behavior is really just a perverted from of exercise seeking behavior.


28 posted on 07/14/2010 7:12:27 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
It might be that drug seeking behavior is really just a perverted from of exercise seeking behavior.

Wow! Fascinating thought!

I know my mind craves exercise such that I occasionally have to remind myself to take a break for the sake of my body.

I had a spin class yesterday that I decided to skip because I had been working out (cycling and weights) hard for 8 days in a row and was my legs were just out of gas (I do two spin classes a week that I consider "race day").

BTW, the exercise keeps me on a very even keel.

Back to your point, I have noticed that both dogs and horses crave exercise and seem to get depressed when they don't get it. Probably the same for humans...hence your point!

29 posted on 07/14/2010 7:19:38 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (Does building demolition count as a Muslim engineering achievement?)
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To: Scanian

Mel is a drunk. Until/if he gets clean, no amount of criticism, ridicule, counseling etc. will make a dent in his behavior.

All of these threads and outraged responses will ever be anything but noise.


30 posted on 07/14/2010 7:20:39 AM PDT by Let's Roll (Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their federal funding!)
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To: Let's Roll

Time is everything with stardom.
I wonder how Gibson compares to Richard Burton?
Famous for alcoholism and epic fights with Liz Taylor- he must have been a horror to live with.
Yet- he is still considered a ‘great actor’ and all of that is gone from the public mind.
I don’t know if they can be compared as actors. But Gibson’s stardom surely equals Burton’s then.
As I said- ‘colorful’ language, drunken binges and self-destructive behavior are nothing new in Hollywood. Private behavior being exposed is- and PC is the new morality that will damage him most.


31 posted on 07/14/2010 7:29:05 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

That’s how I see it - all this is pretty mainstream thinking nowadays - it’s just the idea that “drug seeking behavior is really just a perverted form of exercise seeking behavior” that is the twist, if you will. My dog is the same way too - of course maybe I just made him that way! :)


32 posted on 07/14/2010 7:30:19 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: CAluvdubya
He hit her...and said she deserved it. He’s scum.

Tell me, if she was shaking the baby like a ragdoll and he was trying to get the baby away from her, is he still scum?

Mel Gibson: She's Lying and She Secretly Taped Me

According to sources connected with Mel, on January 6, 2010, Mel and Oksana were arguing at home when Oksana took baby Lucia, ran around the backyard, threw herself on the ground, came back inside the house and began shaking Lucia like a ragdoll. Mel followed and the sources acknowledge there was physical contact, but insist Mel did not punch her and was just trying to protect the baby.

There are 2 sides to everything. She's winning the PR war by releasing tapes that a judge had a restraining order on.

33 posted on 07/14/2010 7:30:36 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: mware; ImaGraftedBranch

I agree with the possible possession. Throw in bipolar and alcoholism and he was a prime candidate for it after that movie.


34 posted on 07/14/2010 7:33:30 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Okay, I hadn't seen that he said she was doing that but he sounds nuts screaming.

It's still he said/she said. And he has incidents (sp?) outside of this one/her that show this type of behavior is the norm for him.

I've noticed that wife #1 hasn't surfaced with any info. Wonder what she has to say about this side of his personality?

35 posted on 07/14/2010 7:40:35 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (WASS!)
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To: Scanian

Poor Mel...too many Vegemite sandwiches.


36 posted on 07/14/2010 7:41:19 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
Another part of our society just calved and fell into the waters of depravity.

No. It is a temporary escape from what is happening to our country courtesy of a marxist thug. Sometimes one simply needs to focus on something else for awhile.

37 posted on 07/14/2010 7:44:05 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Tax-chick

Yeah, I wish you could raise the little one, too! She’d still get the religion but with more consistent loving!

Around here we don’t use the adjective-as-noun domestic much either but I do occasionally hear it.

Off to take Madelyn to YM Community Service this morning...


38 posted on 07/14/2010 7:44:22 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: DustyMoment
Don't get me wrong, I am not defending Mel. I think he's obviously unhinged. But certain women can illicit this response from some men. She probably can push his buttons like no other. Hence, his leaving his wife of 25 years (or however long) for her.

She is playing a dangerous game, sound like. He sounds very capable of murder.

39 posted on 07/14/2010 7:45:21 AM PDT by riri
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To: Scanian

Mel,

What kind of a light are you shining to the world?


40 posted on 07/14/2010 7:45:54 AM PDT by Grunthor (I like you but when the zombies chase us, I'm tripping you.)
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To: CAluvdubya
Okay, I hadn't seen that he said she was doing that but he sounds nuts screaming.

No. She was careful about what was said on the tapes. She's playing to an audience. He's simply responding to her. When he said "You deserved it", he is assuming that she knows the reason and doesn't explain it.

Mel is bipolar and rich. He has problems. That makes him an easy target. And she's a pro. He has also talked about suicide in interviews. This is quickly becoming an unfolding tragedy that I hope goes no further.

41 posted on 07/14/2010 7:49:40 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: steve86

My co-workers in San Antonio used “live-in” for their adjective-as-noun. I think refusing to name the job is debasing to the nanny, housekeeper, maid, servant, or employee.

Have fun with the Marines! I hope it’s not too hot there. We’re going to The Salvation Army (trade two old stuffed animals for one “new” one) and the Post Office.


42 posted on 07/14/2010 7:52:04 AM PDT by Tax-chick (We made a proactive decision to postpone the originally scheduled nightlife activities.)
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To: Grunthor
What kind of a light are you shining to the world?

You're seeing a bipolar alcoholic who has admitted thinking about suicide. And you're watching him being driven/stalked by a gold digger. He's easy pickins.

43 posted on 07/14/2010 7:52:10 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
So now an illness excuses behavior? Not buying it.

He acts this way away from her. He has problems...no excuses. I don't care what movies he's made, he needs help and he should get it instead of screaming at everyone.

44 posted on 07/14/2010 7:56:26 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (WASS!)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I have one in my family. Bipolar alky. Help is available. It’s possible to get AND STAY sober and stay on your meds. These jackasses make a conscious CHOICE to get off the meds and go get trashed. Because of that, they don’t have an excuse for what happens after. Screw these people. Selfish pieces of filth!


45 posted on 07/14/2010 8:00:11 AM PDT by Grunthor (I like you but when the zombies chase us, I'm tripping you.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
And this vulgar stuff is what you focus on? This is your escape? And you're going to blame Obama that you focus on crap like this? So, if you were focusing on gardening or history, your family, or something else useful, you would credit Obama?
46 posted on 07/14/2010 8:00:11 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: CAluvdubya
He is bipolar. He said that years ago. There are others on this thread discussing it. He has also talked of suicide. This woman is playing with fire. For money.

Btw, right after she made the tapes, they went to Russia. Yeah. She's terrified. They also had a court mediated agreement in front of 2 retired judges 6 months after the taping. Never mentioned abuse and agreed to everything, $10,000 a month and visitation. Then reneged. And released tapes sealed by another judge. What do you think she's after?

47 posted on 07/14/2010 8:02:50 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Scanian

I really don’t know why people care about the personal lives of Hollywood stars.

I like Mel’s movies. I will always like Mel’s movies no matter how many crazy rants get published. Who cares!?

Is Mad Max good? Yup. Braveheart? Yup. The Patriot? Yup. etc, etc

Springseen is similar. He’s a leftist lunatic. But I like his music and will no matter what he spews about politics and Republicans in general.

There’s no reason Mel can’t continue to produce great pics. The Passion of the Christ and Apocalypto (highly underated IMHO) for example. He doesn’t need to act.


48 posted on 07/14/2010 8:06:35 AM PDT by strider44
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To: Grunthor

Many people that are creative are bipolar. It’s an illness. I don’t curse anyone that’s struggling with an illness.


49 posted on 07/14/2010 8:08:40 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Since you live up to your handle I’ll tell you, have a nice day.


50 posted on 07/14/2010 8:10:19 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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