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Robyn Gibson Defends Mel to Court: Report
New York Post ^ | July 15, 2010

Posted on 07/15/2010 1:00:49 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: La Enchiladita

I don’t know if “without incident” is accurate.

Mel has acknowledged in interviews that he’s put his wife through hell - although he’s been vague as to what kind of hell it was.
In the context of the interview I saw - I tended to think it was alcoholism - selfishness - and cheating.

This latest rant was not his first.
He was raised by a racist whacko (do a google search of Hutton Gibson)

While he once described his wife as a “saint” - he also expressed his belief she could not be “saved” since she remained a non-catholic (episcopalean I believe)

One article I read about the breakup of the marriage described Robin refusing to speak to Mel for quite a long time prior to the official split.


51 posted on 07/15/2010 3:06:39 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Fantasywriter
But you can’t let it go.

I am responding to your posts. If you don't want a response, quit posting to me. And I will ignore you. Deal?

52 posted on 07/15/2010 3:06:48 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: airborne
And won’t she be getting part of his future earnings?

I don't know. Do you think she'll run through $400 mil?

53 posted on 07/15/2010 3:07:38 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Oh, and none of her children stand to inherit from Mel? Mel doesn't also spend money on the children they share?

She is not a disinterested party.

And I am not the one who left her after decades of marriage to go run off and impregnate a nutjob gold digger; that was your hero Mel.

54 posted on 07/15/2010 3:07:41 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: allmendream

Boy you are reaching. Yeah she’ll run through that $400 mil in a heartbeat! The kids will get scratch.


55 posted on 07/15/2010 3:11:27 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

If his income suffers, he will likely file to have the $400 million reduced.

I wonder what the woman did to deserve $400 million. She must have worked really hard.


56 posted on 07/15/2010 3:11:27 PM PDT by airborne (Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
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To: airborne

She has his 7 children. He has also said that she was a saint and a good wife. I don’t know why you’d want to smear the innocent party with innuendo. Are his kids next?


57 posted on 07/15/2010 3:13:18 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Moreover, all financial considerations aside; THIS was the woman that ‘broke up their marriage’ when photos were published of her and Mel getting together on the beach while she was at home.

The woman would have to be an absolute Saint to not hold any hard feelings for the gold digger bitch. It seems that you think she married a Saint, do you also find her Saintly by proxy?

Also, if Mel on the tapes can be believed; maybe he doesn't have all the money everybody thinks he has anyway! He had to sell his Lakers box seat!

Everyone be sure to shed a tear for poor Mel Gibson not having his box at the Lakers games!

Either way, the bigger the payout to the gold digger, the less there is for him to lavish on the children they share, and the less the children stand to inherit.

Nope, have a hard time seeing her as being disinterested. But maybe if I cultivate the cognitive dissonance necessary to think a Holocaust denier who thinks Jews started all wars isn't really a racist; it will all come clear to me!

LOL!!!!

58 posted on 07/15/2010 3:15:24 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: allmendream
that was your hero Mel.

Before making stupid statements you might check my posting history for what I've said about Gibson.

59 posted on 07/15/2010 3:15:29 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Smearing her? Get over your hate for him, and stop making things up about me.


60 posted on 07/15/2010 3:16:31 PM PDT by airborne (Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
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To: airborne

“She must have worked really hard.”

I can’t remember the exact story about their early years - but there was a time when she did support him while he struggled with his blossoming career.

Then she gave up her career to bear and raise his children.

And from Mel’s own description of his own behavior - she put up with a heckuvalot of sh*t throughout all of it.


61 posted on 07/15/2010 3:17:42 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: allmendream
The woman would have to be an absolute Saint to not hold any hard feelings for the gold digger bitch.

She doesn't strike me as being stupid. He cheated on her for years. I think she'd place the blame squarely where it belongs, on Gibson.

I didn't read the rest of your post. Your too busy pointing fingers and gloating.

Have a nice day.

62 posted on 07/15/2010 3:18:30 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

You leveled some very bizarre accusations at me personally. I still don’t know where they came from. I thought personal attacks were discouraged. I’d like to think I could share some generalized information on a discussion thread, for whatever it’s worth. It may or may not be pertinent, but it should be permissible, sans personal attacks, to offer it into the general mix.


63 posted on 07/15/2010 3:19:18 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: airborne
Get over your hate for him,

Good gravy! The other poster says he's my hero! LOL!!!

64 posted on 07/15/2010 3:19:46 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Fantasywriter
I still don’t know where they came from.

Your post.

65 posted on 07/15/2010 3:20:44 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Scotswife

Do you know if the agreement instructs that the $400 million be used to take care of the kids, or will he also have to pay her more for each of them?

Because I think he’s going to take a big hit financially in the future.

BTW, if he said what he said, he has only himself to blame. He should have been in rehab long ago.


66 posted on 07/15/2010 3:22:38 PM PDT by airborne (Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
You denied reality to make the preposterous claim that the man was not a racist.

I am sorry that I concluded that only a short sighted idolatry and hero worship of the man could lead one to such a conclusion.

The guy is a sick twisted racist, a Holocaust denier, and apparently the kind of guy who would knock a woman's teeth out while she held their infant.

You may think the tapes are not authentic.

You may think he didn't really knock her teeth out.

You may think that if he DID knock her teeth out it was because SHE was out of control and he was dispassionately doing what he could to protect their child.

But to think the guy isn't a racist? Because he had good working relationships with other races in the past? The Whoopi Goldberg ‘he isn't a RACIST racist’ position?

Really?

But I suppose you didn't really admire the guy beforehand, so your conclusion couldn't possibly be based upon anything but a dispassionate review of the evidence of the man's own words.

Whatever.

67 posted on 07/15/2010 3:22:55 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I’m not the other poster.


68 posted on 07/15/2010 3:23:12 PM PDT by airborne (Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
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To: airborne

I have no idea what the agreement is.

I am sure he is going to lose alot of money over this.

He’s been to rehab - you know how that goes.

Some of these kids are adults - probably just about all of them, so I’m sure it’s complicated as to who waits for money and who already has it?


69 posted on 07/15/2010 3:25:38 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: airborne
Well I can't be both now can I?

You want my honest opinion? He needs to lay off the alcohol and start taking meds for his bipolar disease. He wouldn't have been such an easy target for a gold digger otherwise.

70 posted on 07/15/2010 3:30:41 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I didn’t say any of the things you accused me of in my original post, or at any time thereafter. I didn’t even address my original post to you. You just took out after me as if I’d insulted you personally. I never once insulted you; I don’t go in for personal attacks.


71 posted on 07/15/2010 3:38:36 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Fantasywriter

Oh for crying out loud! You inferred that Robyn Gibson was in denial. I called you on it. Get over it.


72 posted on 07/15/2010 3:44:09 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I addressed that point already. Twice.


73 posted on 07/15/2010 3:49:26 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Fantasywriter
Only twice? Seems like DAYS have gone by. And you said in post 47 that I can't let it go?
74 posted on 07/15/2010 3:52:34 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

You keep making the same false accusations against me again and again. So I can let them stand, or answer. Try this: stoop accusing me of things I didn’t say.


75 posted on 07/15/2010 3:54:46 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Fantasywriter
Try this: stoop accusing me of things I didn’t say.

You never said in post 31: I’d like to point out that there is such a thing as denial.

Why not be an adult. Walk away. You got called on a statement and didn't like it.

Bye.

76 posted on 07/15/2010 3:57:45 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: ottbmare
I think he’s been under attack by Satan since he created The Passion of the Christ.

I agree.

77 posted on 07/15/2010 3:59:16 PM PDT by murphE ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." - GK Chesterton)
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To: mkjessup

geesh.....what Christian doesn’t know that? Whi said he was condemned to hell?? Not me....I said his actions were as if he was possessed by Satan.


78 posted on 07/15/2010 4:01:58 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Finally, something we can agree on. Yes, there is such a thing as denial, and yes, I pointed out that in a general, psychological sense it does exist.

Have a good night.


79 posted on 07/15/2010 4:04:41 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Ann Archy

Are you an authority on demonic possession Ann? If so, could you perhaps expound a bit on the differences between demonic oppression vs actual possession, and how a person becomes possessed? I’m curious as to why you think Satan himself would possess Mel Gibson instead of delegating such a task to one of his subordinates?


80 posted on 07/15/2010 4:25:02 PM PDT by mkjessup
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To: correctthought
If he doesn’t have a history of this kind of stuff

What about the police stop where be went on bashing Jews even though not one Jew was around?

81 posted on 07/15/2010 4:31:16 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I love BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Well I can't be both now can I?

I didn't say you were.

82 posted on 07/15/2010 4:33:49 PM PDT by airborne (Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
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To: mkjessup

Name the subordinates, please.


83 posted on 07/15/2010 4:38:53 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: airborne

I’ve been accused all day of loving Mel Gibson. Then you come along and tell me to get over my hate of him. What a hoot!


84 posted on 07/15/2010 4:39:37 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
You are a "real hoot!"

And it's been fun, but I gotta run!


85 posted on 07/15/2010 4:46:27 PM PDT by airborne (Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
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To: airborne
It was refreshing not to be told I was defending him cause I was a fan! :-)

And it's been fun, but I gotta run!

Hope your evening is great!

86 posted on 07/15/2010 4:49:08 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Ann Archy

Why? You want to place a person-to-demon call? LOL


87 posted on 07/15/2010 5:10:28 PM PDT by mkjessup
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To: mkjessup

Just answer my question.....if you can. Name names. Thanks.


88 posted on 07/15/2010 5:24:43 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: nickcarraway

If Mel Gibson was off the wall during these recordings then he must be absolutly FREAKING OUT! at the realese of them.


89 posted on 07/15/2010 5:27:29 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: Ann Archy

Google IS your friend, and while I am certainly not your research assistant, here is some good material courtesy of ‘Demonbusters.com’:

1. PRINCIPALITIES - POWERS - RULERS - WICKEDNESS

1. Scripture

2. The Satanic Kingdom

3. Kingdoms in the Heavenlies

2. LEVELS OF SPIRITUAL WARFARE

1. Definitions

2. Other Definitions

3. SATAN, FALLEN ANGELS AND DEMONS

1. Satan, Lucifer, Devil

2. The Chain Of Command In The Demonic Realm

4. THE SATANIC COSMOS

5. ANGELS OF LIGHT, POWERS OF DARKNESS

6. THE SEVEN OCCULT KINGDOMS

1. Preface

2. Seals

3. Occult Kingdom Of The Earth (First)

4. Water Occult Kingdom (Second)

5. Occult Kingdom Of Fire (Third)

6. First Occult Kingdom Of The Air (Fourth)

7. Second Occult Kingdom Of The Air (Fifth)

8. Third Occult Kingdom Of The Air (Sixth)

9. Fourth Occult Kingdom Of The Air (Seventh)

10. Satan

7. REFERENCES

PRINCIPALITIES - POWERS - RULERS - WICKEDNESS

(Restoring Shattered Lives)

Scripture

Sons of GOD (Elohim) - Gen. 6:2, 4 & Job 1:6, 2:1

Giants - Gen. 6:4, etc.

Satan - 1 Chron. 21:1, etc.

Host of Heaven - 1 Chron. 18:18

Spirits (Devils - Demons) - 2 Chron. 18:20

Sons of El - Psa. 29:1, Hosea 2:1

The Divine Council - Psa. 82, 2 Chron. 18

Sons of the Most High (gods) - Psa. 82:6

Kings and Nobles - Psa. 149:8

Seraphim - Isa. 6:1-7

Satyres - Isa. 13:21, 34:14

Living Creatures - Eze. 1:4-28

Cherubim - Eze. 28:16

Serpents and Scorpions - Luke 10:19

Power of Darkness - Luke 22:53

Principality, Power, Might, Dominion - Eph. 1:21

Principalities, Powers, Rulers of Darkness of This World,

Spiritual Wickedness in High Places - Eph. 6:12

Power of Darkness - Col. 1:13

Thrones - Col. 1:16, etc.

Dominions - Col. 1:16, etc.

Principalities, Powers - Col. 2:15

Celestial Beings - Jude 8-10

The Satanic Kingdom

(Restoring Shattered Lives)

There are other spiritual beings in the heavenly realms which may be godly or ungodly: Archangels (ruling angels), Angels, and Shedhim (rulers or lords) and Seirim (he-goats or hairy ones). Demons seek a body to inhabit. Angels can appear in bodily form. We petition GOD to deal with spiritual beings in heavenly realms and remove evil beings with levels of authority under them.

Archangels (ruling angels)

Angels

Shedhim (rulers or lords)

Seirim (he-goats or hairy ones)

Demons

Kingdoms in the Heavenlies

The following are possible descending levels of satanic authority. These authorities can be set over cultures, nations and regions of the earth. They can be behind natural and supernatural government.

1. Satan (commander-in-chief)

2. Thrones

3. Dominions (lordships)

4. Principalities (rulerships, princes)

5. Powers (authorities)

6. Rulers Of Darkness Of This World

7. Spiritual Wickedness (wicked spirits) In High Places (heavenly places)

LEVELS OF SPIRITUAL WARFARE

(Informed Intercession)

Definitions

Spiritual Warfare: Conflicts with demonic strongholds and moral deception that require spiritual weaponry and armor.

Warfare Prayer: Application of strategic-level spiritual warfare to evangelistic efforts. An uprooting of prevailing spiritual strongholds that hinder the Gospel.

Ground Level: Ministry activity with individual bondage and/or demonization.

Binding The Strongman: Neutralizing the deceptive hold or enchantment that demonic powers have achieved over human subjects so that the latter can process truth at a heart level.

Occult Level: Intercessory confrontations with demonic forces operating through satanism, witchcraft, shamanism, esoteric philosophies and similar occult activities.

Strategic Level: Intercessory confrontations with demonic power concentrated over given cities, cultures and peoples.

Territorial Spirits: Demonic powers that have been given controlling influence over specific sites, peoples and areas. The belief in such hierarchal arrangements is culturally widespread and often involves protective deities linked to homes, temples, clans, cities, valleys and nations.

Principalities And Powers: Demonic agents and structures that exert deceptive control over co-conspiratorial human political kingdoms and systems.

Rulers Of Darkness Of This World: Demonic forces involved in deceptive and destructive manipulation of natural elements and systems.

Strongholds

Strongmen

Territorial Spirits

Principalities And Powers

Rulers Of Darkness Of This World

Other Definitions

Principalities - forces and dominions dealing with nations and governments; high-level satanic princes set over nations and regions of the earth; commanding generals over Satan’s fallen army.

Powers - having authority and power of action in spheres open to them; supernatural and natural government; high ranking powers of evil.

Rulers Of Darkness Of This World - governing the darkness and blindness of the world at large; operate within countries and cultures to influence certain aspects of life; governing spirits of darkness.

Spiritual Wickedness In High Places - forces being directed in and upon the CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST in wiles, fiery darts, onslaught and every conceivable deception about doctrine which they are capable of planning; the many types of evil spirits that commonly afflict people; the collective body of demon soldiers comprising Satan’s hordes.

There are three levels of strongmen: rulers over principalities or wide geographic areas on earth; rulers over people, churches, families, communities and other specific groups or individuals; and rulers who dwell within people. Principalities are ruled by princes, also called strongmen. These are the gods and goddesses of the underworld.

Forces and Dominions

Princes

Generals

Principalities

Powers

Rulers Of Darkness Of This World

Spiritual Wickedness In High Places

Rulers

Strongmen

Gods and Goddesses

SATAN, FALLEN ANGELS AND DEMONS

There is Satan - one individual not omniscient, omnipresent or omnipotent like God.

Heb. 12:22 too innumerable (myriads, countless, indefinitely large numbers, enormous, multitudinous) hosts of angels. Rev. 5:11 calculates at least 101,000,000 total angels. Rev. 12:4 calculates at least 33,700,000 fallen angels. There are many millions of fallen angels.

We only cast out demons in Christians and find they have many demons. If the world has billions of people and Christians have many demons, then there must be multiplied billions of demons.

Demons may have come from a Pre-Adamic Race but there is no scriptural reference that can be found to prove where demons came from conclusively. Demons say that they are demons and not fallen angels. They do not have to tell where they came from apparently.

Some interesting scriptures are Matt. 25:41, II Peter 2:4 and Jude 6. There is no indication that angels are demons.

Satan is Chief of Staff of his army. The fallen angels are his officers. The demons are his soldiers.

We cast thousands of demons out of a man during a year by working with him weekly. The demons freely talked and gave us information about their rank and number. One demon said that a person could have thousands of demons. Early in our deliverance ministry, I would write this information down. A Christian can have a legion of demons.

Druids revered the faeries, gnomes and undeines which are types of demons.

Satan (Chief of Staff)

Hosts of Angels

Faeries, Gnomes and Undeines

Satan, Lucifer, Devil

Devil means accuser or slanderer. The chief of the fallen angels is an archangel who has at least forty names given in Scripture: Satan, Lucifer, Devil, Abaddan, Accuser Of Brethren, Adversary, Anointed Cherub, Antichrist, Apollyon, Beelzebub, Belial, Charmer, Condemner, Covering Cherub, Crooked Serpent, Day Star, Deceiver, Destroyer, Great Red Dragon, Enemy, Evil One, Father Of Lies, He Who is in the World, King, Leviathan, Liar, Murderer, Oppressor, Roaring Lion, Piercing Serpent, Son Of The Morning, Tempter, Thief, Wicked One, Wolf.

Angel of the Abyss, Angel of Light, Authority Of Darkness, God Of This Age, God Of This World, Prince Of The Power Of The Air, Prince Of This World, Ruler Of Authorities Of Air, Ruler of Demons, Ruler Of This World, King Of Babylon and King Of Tyrus.

Satan - Lucifer - Devil

The Chain Of Command In The Demonic Realm (Excerpts)

Demons are very conscious of authority and adhere slavishly to the chain of command and the line of authority structure. There are Chief Kings and Chief Princes, and under them are Kings and Princes who rule various geographical and spiritual areas. There are kingdoms, principalities, dominions and powers which are administered by Kings and Princes. Each state in the United states is ruled over by a prince. Louisiana is ruled by Southern Curses.

A General is in charge of a Legion (6,000) while a Prince will control a number of Legions. A Ruler or Captain commands a Cohort (600), and there can be Chief Captains and Chief Rulers with still more authority. A Centurion controls 100 demons; if he controls less than a hundred demons he is called a Strongman.

Any demon in authority will direct how many, when and where pain spirits are to attack, and how sustained the attack is to be. These pain spirits are called Imps by those in charge.

Because of the rigid authority structure, a wise move in dealing with spirits is to bind all spirits, especially ruling ones and ones of Violence, Fighting and Murder.

The control of a geographical area seems to rest on the success of a prince in controlling the majority of the persons within that place. It also has to do with the ferocity and power of that prince.

Chief Kings and Chief Princes

Kings and Princes

Kingdoms, Principalities, Dominions and Powers

Generals

Legions

Cohorts

Chief Captains and Chief Rulers

Rulers or Captains

Centurions

Strongmen

Imps

Emperor - Dukes - Commanders

THE SATANIC COSMOS (EXCERPTS)

In the Scriptures, both holy and unholy spirit beings are designated as angels. Usually the unholy angels are referred to as demons, translated in the King James Version as devils. (Demons would talk to Win Worley.)

Demons in vast numbers constitute a part of Satan’s hierarchy and fight in his army. They degrade the bodies they invade and possess, whether of animals or men. (Animals need deliverance too. We have done deliverance on our farm animals.)

This influence is exercised both to mislead the unsaved and wage an increasing war against the believer. Thus commenced the fierce battle between Satan and God for the control of the human beings God put on earth in the re-creation. (What was on the earth before Adam and Eve?)

The super angel continued to invade the affairs of men. By the time of Noah, he had managed by supernatural power to infiltrate the human race with angelic creatures who somehow took the bodies of humans to father monstrous hybrid offspring, half demon and half human.

Most demons will concede that they will eventually go to the pit, but they emphasize that is is not time yet and they do not want to talk about it. They fear and dread the pit and its consequences.

There can be very little doubt that the demons do have a highly organized empire of evil. Satan’s description is the one who deceiveth the whole world. Behind the facade of religious life, there is a spiritual battle raging. There is fierce conflict today; there are those who do not wish to pass this way.

In brief, the Church of Christ will reach its high water mark when it knows how to (1) bind the strong man by prayer, (2) command the spirits of evil in the Name of Christ, and (3) deliver men and women from their power.

There are spirits from the heavenlies deliberately intervening to strengthen and reinforce embattled spirits in a person. The most powerful are those in the heavenlies charged with the overall direction of Satan’s program.

There is a bottom division to which demons refer. The middle division seems to encompass those demons whose job is to gain entrance to mortal bodies. The top division of the demonic hierarchy supervises and closely monitors activities in the lower ranks without violating any of the ground rules in Scripture.

Entirely due to the stupidity and ignorance of the believers, dividing and sowing suspicion among the believers, is an astoundingly effective tool - 90% successful!

Three different places are Gehenna, Hades and Tartarus. Gehenna refers to Hell, the final abode of the wicked dead. Hades refers to the temporary abode of the wicked dead.

Tartarus refers to some of the fallen angels who sinned at the time of the flood and were sent to their temporary prison house. Demons fear this place exceedingly and tremble. They say it is dark, filled with black flames, inhabitants are bound by chains, cannot communicate with each other, and it is a horrible place filled with misery.

Two thirds of the heavenly host remain loyal to the Lord God, giving us a two to one angelic majority. There is a realism of loosing spirits from the Lord to operate in your life and the lives of others. There are spirits named in the Old and New Testaments.

In the Old Testament, look up the words: angel, charmer, dead, devil, divination, enchantment, familiar, giants, leviathan, magic, necromancy, Satan, serpent, spirit, witch, wizard and references to the giants: Anakim, Avim, Emim, Horim, Nephilim, Rephaim and Zamzummim.

In the New Testament look up the words: angel, Antichrist, Beelzebub, Belial, darkness, devil, demon, dragon, lion, Satan, serpent, sorcery, spirit, tempter.

Satan (super angel)

Unholy Spirits

Unholy Angels

Demons or Devils

Monstrous Hybrid Offspring

Strongmen

Bottom Division - Middle Division - Top Division

Gehenna - Hades - Tartarus - Hell - Hades

Giants

Serpents

ANGELS OF LIGHT, POWERS OF DARKNESS (EXCERPTS)

Try mentioning angels, demons or the Devil. You will be quickly appraised for signs of pathological violence and then quietly shunned. The Roman Catholic Church has reaffirmed its traditional teaching on the existence of angels, including personal guardian angels and demons. The reemergence of teaching on angels in Christian churches runs parallel to the rise of New Age angels in the neo-pagan revival of the secular culture. Pentecostals have long taught the importance of the discernment of spirits and exorcism.

Classical tradition on the fundamental truth about angels: they exist; they are spiritual; they are creatures; and some fell of their own evil will; and wage war against humanity. Angels are merely God’s helpers.

Even Satan serves God’s glory against his will. Because with the bridle of his power, God holds him bound and restrained. He carries out only those things which have been divinely permitted to him. He obeys his Creator because he is compelled to yield him service wherever God impels him.

Demonic gargoyles decorated churches and cathedrals. Popular Protestantism flirted with fears of witches, epitomized in the tragic Salem witch trials. Angels and men are sufficient to stand, yet free to fall. Classical tradition is seeing Satan’s fall as an unprovoked act of pride.

Evangelicals believe in the existence and activity of angels on the word of the Bible alone. Angels are often mistaken for men. Michael and Gabriel seem to have distinct but equivalent functions in the Book of Daniel as warrior and revealer of mysteries, respectively. Devils are condemned forever.

Satan is the ancient serpent, the perpetual accuser and the murderer of the saints. He is revealed in an unholy trinity made up of the mythical accuser (dragon), the Antichrist (beast) and the spirit of false religion. Satan is the hostile opponent. A fall presumes Satan’s prior residence in heaven with the angels.

There are angels and demons. Angels have bodies; demons seek to enter other bodies. Satan is Prince of Demons. God bound the fallen angels in Tartarus that cohabited with human women. The demonic spirits of their gigantic offspring may be the demons of today. The ancient world was well acquainted with unclean demonic spirits. (There are spirits of incubus and sucubus which have sex with women and men.)

When did evil begin and where did it come from? Satan is a liar and murderer from the beginning. Worship of gods is the worship of demons. There is an organized kingdom of Satan which afflicts the human race at every level of personal and social life. Demons are not heavenly beings; they are associated with death and the underworld. The churches have their own angelic representatives. Some of these angels may have fallen from heaven in primordial times and then been reduced to demons. (There is a godly and ungodly angel assigned to a church.)

Pentecostals and charismatics say that believers as well as non-Christians may be demonized and require exorcism. This is a seesaw battle between the sons of light and the sons of darkness. There is the great universal spiritual war between Good and Evil. God has assigned a personal guardian angel to each believer. (I ask God to assign twelve legions of angels to protect me.)

We are dealing with gods and angels, Satan and demons, and principalities and powers. Angels exist as well as Satan, demons and powers. Principalities and powers may be called angels on the way to ruination.

The refusal to deal with the good and evil spirits has weakened the church and its witness. Just when the enemy is making a great counterattack, we start forgetting we are on the battlefield at all. It is amazing how quickly the Church has fallen away from the faith, become accursed, bewitched and under a spell. This is very predictable as part of the cosmic battle for their souls. Christians are in bondage to beings that are no gods...weak and beggarly elemental spirits. Angels are guardians and guides of God’s people in both Old and New Testaments. Satan, the God Of This Age, disguises himself as an angel of light. The world is filled with devils threatening to undo us.

Angels

Demons

Devil

Michael and Gabriel

Antichrist

Satan (Prince of Demons)

Tartarus

Gods

Principalities and Powers

Elemental Spirits

THE SEVEN OCCULT KINGDOMS

(Occult Grand Master Now In Christ)

Preface

There are seven occult kingdoms in the universe, which are the kingdoms of Satan and the fallen angels. There are various planes, zones, realms and centers as well as deities, gods and lords. The Five Cosmic Seals (occult levels) are the universal summary of the 400,000 categories of occult initiations, powers and demons (Astrometaphysical operations). There are male, female, neuter and mermaid spirits (demons or Cosmic Forces).

There are occult Esoteric Metaphysics (the secret and most confidential aspect of occult teachings) and Mystical Sciences practiced by mystical adepts, Living Grand Masters. This is the cosmological verdict of the Order of Astral and Terrestrial Hierarchy universal occult recognition. Exoteric is public occult teachings. An Adept uses the Technique of the Master. Hell is called After-Life-Hallucination. There are entities, spirits, demons, demi-gods, Archangels and other names for the evil beings. A Guru is a Spiritual Master.

Seals

The Five Cosmic Seals are five occult levels: Level 333, 666, 999, 1330 and 003 operating 400,000 minuet mystical degrees.

First Cosmic Seal: (Devic Seal 333) One who has received this Cosmic Seal is empowered to control not less than 40,000 spirits.

Second Cosmic Seal: (Seal of Kal 666) One who has received this Cosmic Seal is empowered to control not less than 160,000 spirits. Many great politicians, military commanders, etc. on earth are at this occult level of operations. This will be the occult level of the coming Antichrist.

Third Cosmic Seal: (Shiva Seal 999 - Seal of Destruction) One who has received this Cosmic Seal is empowered to control not less than 2,500,000 spirits which depends on the mastership of one’s occult and psychic projections. Women are generally kept at this level with a few women exceeding this level.

Fourth Cosmic Seal: (Terrestrial Seal 1330 - Seal of Ba-Vara) One who has received this Cosmic Seal (Living Grand Master of the Order of Astral and Terrestrial Hierarchy) is empowered to control not less than 100,000,000 spirits and 33,000,000 demi-gods.

Fifth Cosmic Seal: (Liber 003 - Seal of Tuzassotama) One who has received this Cosmic Seal is mystically empowered to proclaim himself as “God, Lord, Universal Master or God-Incarnate” on earth and he controls all spirits of the occult kingdoms.

Occult Kingdom Of The Earth (First)

There are ten major zones of spiritual operations of the forces of darkness ruled by “Guardian Angels - Arahatha”: Gobi desert around Afghanistan, Agam Des in Tibet, Himalaya Mountains in India, Forest of Slurping in India, Vrindavan City in India, California in United States (ruled by Seth), Ibadan City in Nigeria, Jerusalem in Israel, Tabuse in Japan and around the pyramid of Egypt. The Devic kingdom is ruled by a female Archspirit Seraphim Visel living in a spiritual city called NU located in Iran. (Notice the zones in India and Tibet.)

Within each of the zones, there are 127 occult regions or 1,270 regions total ruled by demon Earth Masters which project the metaphysical powers to sustain secret societies, churches and religious movements for the operation of witchcrafts, esoteric and related metaphysical forces. Within each of the occult regions, there are 3,000 occult centers or 30,000,000 centers total of Elemental Forces ruled by Gomes (Supreme Elementals) operated by mystical AUM Vibrations (Mantra sound vibrations). Within each center, there are millions of Elemental Spirit demons.

Water Occult Kingdom (Second)

There are five planes or zones: Lumani, Banni, Lemuria, Gamma and Atlantis. Within each zone, there are 220 regions or 1,100 regions total ruled by a Pritha. Within each region, there are 2,000 occult centers or 440,000 centers total ruled by a Huna Supreme Mermaid controlling millions of mermaids and water demons. Banwar Kingdom is ruled by Archspirit Lord Kaliya (neither male nor female) living in an occult city Gupha located in the Bermuda-Triangle (Zone of Death). Each of the five zones has a male great demon ruling it (demi-god with four hands).

Occult Kingdom Of Fire (Third)

There are millions of mighty dark angels of death. Within this realm, there are two major planes. The first plane, Anda, has innumerable courts guarded by Gnomes (subterranean spirits) ruled by Archangel Ahankar. The second plane is a strange plane of punishment ruled by Archangel Chita (The Lord of Fire) made for some of those who are physically dead on earth). Yamalok kingdom is ruled by Archspirit Lord Naga (Lord of Death and Punishment) controlling millions of mighty dark angels of death.

First Occult Kingdom Of The Air (Fourth)

Within the Astral Kingdom, there are 900,000,000 zones and planes ruled by Archspirit Lord Sagna, a Deva (Guardian Spirit) in control of billions of Yansdavas (demons of the air) and millions of Devas and Devatas (male and female Guardian Spirits) in the city of Sahasra. There are billions of demons and millions of “Guardian Spirits”. Lower Astral Kingdom is made up of 26,000,000 planes. In many religions of the world King Elam, second-in-command, is being worshipped as “God”.

Second Occult Kingdom Of The Air (Fifth)

Within the Terrestrial Kingdom, there are 33,000,000 demi-gods ruled by Archspirit Ba-Vara. Within the kingdom, there are two major “Grand Divisions”. Grand Division Casual World is ruled by Archspirit Lord Gotamy. Grand Division Etheric Heaven is ruled by Saint Goo-Ling using advanced manipulation which one can not detect except after one’s deliverance by the Living Power of Jesus Christ.

Third Occult Kingdom Of The Air (Sixth)

Within the Azura Kingdom, there are several planes, regions, sub-regions, zones, etc. ruled by Archspirit Sat Kumara. Every mystical art, wisdom or craft born in Azura is projected to the other five kingdoms. There are millions of mighty spirits called Guardians of the Flame (Abhidevanadas).

Fourth Occult Kingdom Of The Air (Seventh)

The Kalami Kingdom is the highest of all and is ruled by Satan. Here one attains the ultimate perfection of mysticism and esoteric power which is proclaimed to be the state of “God Consciousness”.

Satan

Satan, the Devil, Archangel Lucifer, that old serpent and anointed cherub is called Chitanam who deceived one-third of the angels, cherubims and seraphims in Heaven. He wanted to sit on the mount of the congregation in the sides of the north (Mount of the Assembly far in the north of the highest heavens) and be like the Most High. He showed our Lord Jesus Christ all the kingdoms of the world (the seven occult kingdoms) in a moment of time. Lucifer is revealed as a great red dragon with seven heads and ten horns forming the seven occult kingdoms.

Seven Occult Kingdoms

Kingdoms of Satan

Fallen Angels

Planes, Zones, Realms, Centers

Deities, Gods, Lords

Five Cosmic Seals (occult levels)

Occult Initiations, Powers, Demons

Astrometaphysical Operations

Male, Female, Neuter, Mermaid Spirits

Demons

Cosmic Forces

Occult Esoteric Metaphysics

Mystical Sciences

Mystical Adepts

Living Grand Masters

Order of Astral and Terrestrial Hierarchy

Hell

Entities, Spirits, Demons, Demi-gods, Archangels

Gurus (Spiritual Masters)


90 posted on 07/15/2010 5:30:12 PM PDT by mkjessup
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To: ottbmare

“That said, I can certainly believe that his wife never experienced any violence at his hands. It sounds as though, without her, he has had a nervous breakdown. I suppose it might drive a man mad to know that he has destroyed his family and his career, and lost half a billion dollars, because of his complete stupidity over a woman who turned out to be a golddigging whore. Wouldn’t be the first time.”

BINGO


91 posted on 07/15/2010 5:30:47 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: Blue Turtle

As a female, I should be outraged at Mel Gibson. I find myself almost pulling for him—can’t really explain it. This Oksana gal is probably playing him like a Stradivarius.I wish he would be drawn back to Robyn—SHE is the one who is standing by him when it would be so easy to pile on.


92 posted on 07/15/2010 5:41:57 PM PDT by 1951Boomer
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To: Ann Archy

Uh, I don’t know about possession. I must disagree with you there. Possession is a very rare and terrible situation, and usually the symptoms are such that they can be confused with a frank psychosis. There’s a BIG difference between committing some rather ordinary sins—adultery and rage—and being possessed.


93 posted on 07/15/2010 5:42:54 PM PDT by ottbmare (I could agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.)
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To: mkjessup
Fortunately the King of kings and Lord of lords will be judging Mel one day, and not you or your eager-to-condemn pal. If at that time Mel is covered with the Blood of Christ, his sins will have been thrown as far as from the East to the West, never to be remembered again.

Hey, be fair. I'm not condemning Mel. And I absolutely agree with you that he, and you, and I, will be washed clean of our sin--assuming we ask forgiveness. I'm merely pointing out that Mel used to be so devout, such a devoted family man, went to Mass daily, built his own chapel...and then this. Adultery, racism, anti-Semitic shrieking, violence. If he has repented of his sin, his repentance doesn't mean much when he goes right back to the girlfriend again. He's been with her for, what, two years?

And by the way, I know and loathe monster-women like this. They are sociopaths, profoundly evil creatures, and they can indeed drive a man mad. My chief concern here is that he is not driven into despair and attempt suicide. I hope someone still cares about him enough to help him keep it together. I hope and pray he comes back to himself and to God.

94 posted on 07/15/2010 6:03:11 PM PDT by ottbmare (I could agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.)
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To: ottbmare

Your points are well taken. Thank you for that. I believe that the best way to put all of this into perspective is to ask the simple question (the answer to which of course must be speculative), “how many souls were brought to Christ and saved via the mechanism of the film “The Passion of the Christ”?

I submit that when Mel Gibson created that film, he became a target of opportunity for any and every demon that might be passing through his neighborhood. I think that he was moved way up that diabolical “Get That Guy” list that the Devil very likely keeps handy.

None of which excuses his behavior, I’m not suggesting that. But I believe that it can explain some if not all of his behavior from that point forward. Adam was done in by Eve when her disobedience led the both of them into sin, and into separation from Almighty God. In Mel’s case, it was someone named ‘Oksana’.

It is very possible that Mel is in what would be described as a ‘backsliding state’, based on his folly, based on the poor judgments and decisions that he has made. He knows it. Believe me, he knows it. I would stake everything I know on the fact that his soul is in turmoil and torture each and every day over this.

Some people are quick to say “ohhh Mel has ‘fallen from grace’, he’s among the lost now” but only God Himself knows the true spiritual state of Mel Gibson, and I have prayed for him in the past, and I will pray for him now and in the future because he has professed that he believes in Jesus Christ and that he has placed the fate of his soul in Those Hands, and that means I am compelled to pray for him, just as we all should be.

Today, it is Mel Gibson who has slipped and fallen and made a mess of his life, most likely with a lot of demonic encouragement.

Tomorrow, it could be any one of us.

God help us all.


95 posted on 07/15/2010 6:31:24 PM PDT by mkjessup
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To: mkjessup

I agree with everything you said, brother. Thank you.

Let’s just agree to pray for this man, who as you note has brought so many to Christ through his work and I’m sure is so tenderly loved by the Lord. Yes, he has backslidden; at times so have we all.


96 posted on 07/15/2010 6:35:54 PM PDT by ottbmare (I could agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.)
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To: ottbmare

Amen to that. Have a good night brother.


97 posted on 07/15/2010 6:49:01 PM PDT by mkjessup
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To: mkjessup

Dude, I’m your sister in Christ, not your brother! “OTTB Mare,” get it? ;-)

Good night and blessing to you.


98 posted on 07/15/2010 6:56:04 PM PDT by ottbmare (I could agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.)
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To: nickcarraway

Mel Gibson and Diana Alouise

National Enquirer

Published on: 03/26/2004

Diana Alouise hasn’t seen Mel Gibson’s movie “The Passion of the Christ” — but she knows all about the passion of Mel Gibson!

Diana, who had a months-long affair with the married actor, told The ENQUIRER in a world exclusive interview: “We drank like fish and made love more than 20 times. He never mentioned God or religion.”

Diana — who passed a polygraph test — tells how she and Mel had sex the first night they met.

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/61310


99 posted on 07/15/2010 6:56:46 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: ottbmare

‘Cheating Mel Gibson had a string of girlfriends throughout the years’

http://www.celebitchy.com/48014/cheating_mel_gibson_had_a_string_of_girlfriends_throughout_the_years/


100 posted on 07/15/2010 7:06:16 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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