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Idris Elba defends Thor film role
guardian.co.uk ^ | 07.15.10

Posted on 07/16/2010 5:54:21 AM PDT by VU4G10

Edited on 07/16/2010 6:06:42 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Even for an actor who has played a vampire-hunter with a guilty conscience, a Baltimore crime lord with a taste for Adam Smith, and an asset manager with a stalker, the role of the Norse deity Heimdall guardian of the burning rainbow bridge between the world of men and the world of gods was always going to be a bit of a challenge.


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KEYWORDS: comicbooks; mythology; napl; politicalcorrectness; revisionisthistory; thor
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Casting a black man to play a norse god as black, makes as much sense as having Seinfeld play Mandela.
1 posted on 07/16/2010 5:54:24 AM PDT by VU4G10
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To: VU4G10

“I think we will see that and I think that’s good.’

Or not!


2 posted on 07/16/2010 5:57:57 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: VU4G10

However, I am glad Idris has found work. he was great in Ultraviolet (not the movie, the series).


3 posted on 07/16/2010 5:58:29 AM PDT by agere_contra (Obama did more damage to the Gulf economy in one day than Pemex/Ixtoc did in nine months)
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To: VU4G10
By miss casting the title role the movie is sure to be a box office flop.
4 posted on 07/16/2010 5:58:55 AM PDT by 2001convSVT ("Hand out pocket Constitutions to everyone you can")
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To: VU4G10
"I think that’s a sign of the times for the future"

At least he got that right.

Man is embracing himself as the ultimate source of all wisdom and goodness, and as such greater follies are certain.

5 posted on 07/16/2010 5:59:15 AM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: VU4G10

Ridiculous.

This is carrying PC way too far.


6 posted on 07/16/2010 5:59:54 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: VU4G10

They always do this now... Look at the Perfect Storm movie... Where did the black guy come from, don’t remember him in the book. I call it the Lando Calrissian effect.


7 posted on 07/16/2010 6:00:04 AM PDT by xenob
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To: VU4G10
Hollywood has bowed so low before the alter of political correctness, it can probably look up its own keister by now.
8 posted on 07/16/2010 6:00:14 AM PDT by MamaTexan (Dear GOP - "We Suck Less" is ~NOT~ a campaign platform)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Pinging thee.

9 posted on 07/16/2010 6:00:32 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: OpusatFR

It’s for the children.


10 posted on 07/16/2010 6:00:39 AM PDT by Salamander (If I'm too rough, tell me.......I'm so scared your little head will come off in my hands......)
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To: 2001convSVT
By miss casting the title role the movie is sure to be a box office flop.

Who have they cast as Thor?

11 posted on 07/16/2010 6:00:44 AM PDT by agere_contra (Obama did more damage to the Gulf economy in one day than Pemex/Ixtoc did in nine months)
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To: VU4G10

People sure do get their panties in a wad over the dumbest things.


12 posted on 07/16/2010 6:01:19 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: VU4G10
..press conference for current film The Losers.

Funny, I thought of Losers myself.

13 posted on 07/16/2010 6:01:26 AM PDT by BallyBill (WARNING:Taking me serious could cause stress related illness.)
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To: VU4G10

A black man as Heimdall is ok, but cast a white as Cleopatra and it’s the end of the world.


14 posted on 07/16/2010 6:02:51 AM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (And that is all the people need to know!)
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To: shibumi

“Surt will be played by a Malaysian woman” ping.

[and Geri and Frekki will be recast as French Poodles]


15 posted on 07/16/2010 6:03:06 AM PDT by Salamander (If I'm too rough, tell me.......I'm so scared your little head will come off in my hands......)
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...makes as much sense as having Seinfeld play Mandela.

...or having Mel Gibson play Shaka Zulu...

16 posted on 07/16/2010 6:03:23 AM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great... ...until it happens to YOU.)
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To: Bigh4u2

Its a cheap stunt to garner buzz. Lame.


17 posted on 07/16/2010 6:03:39 AM PDT by catbertz
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To: VU4G10
If you know anything about the Nords,

'Scuse me, "the Nords"?

Maybe it's a planned anachronism. Lots of Africans live in Norway now.

18 posted on 07/16/2010 6:03:44 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("It's a jungle out there, kiddies: have a very fruitful day!")
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To: agere_contra

Danny DeVito.


19 posted on 07/16/2010 6:04:19 AM PDT by Salamander (If I'm too rough, tell me.......I'm so scared your little head will come off in my hands......)
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To: martin_fierro
If you know anything about the Nords...

NORDS!

20 posted on 07/16/2010 6:04:41 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: VU4G10
"Casting a black man to play a norse god as black, makes as much sense as having Seinfeld play Mandela. "

True, except that would go against the politically correct aspect of the back-ass-wardness of the current age.

There would be outrage from those, such as the always fair minded NAACP, over the ridiculousness of such casting.

Not only is the United States racing to be an idiocracy, so is much of the world.

21 posted on 07/16/2010 6:05:10 AM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: Migraine
or having Mel Gibson play Shaka Zulu

Given recent events he could probably pull it off.

22 posted on 07/16/2010 6:06:00 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: 2001convSVT

Its OK, answered my own question. Thor will be played by Chris Hemsworth.


23 posted on 07/16/2010 6:06:37 AM PDT by agere_contra (Obama did more damage to the Gulf economy in one day than Pemex/Ixtoc did in nine months)
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To: VU4G10

I can’t wait for Kevin Spacey’s triumphant role as Martin Luther King!!


24 posted on 07/16/2010 6:07:06 AM PDT by CondiArmy
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To: Tijeras_Slim

LOL!


25 posted on 07/16/2010 6:08:42 AM PDT by RabidBartender (The hardest part about tending bar is figuring out who's drunk and who's just stupid.)
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To: VU4G10
"I think that’s a sign of the times for the future. I think we will see multi-level casting. I think we will see that and I think that’s good.

I can see it now:

Mel Gibson in "The Story of Jesse Jackson, Race Baiter"

Clint Eastwood as Uncle Remus in a remake of "Song of the South"

Russell Crowe in the lead role in a new "Malcolm X" movie.

and... Hillary Duff in "the Life and Death of Michael Jackson".

It'll be GREAT!!!

26 posted on 07/16/2010 6:09:04 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: agere_contra

Samuel L. Jackson?


27 posted on 07/16/2010 6:09:57 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: GodBlessRonaldReagan
Most pertinent post of the thread so far.

Yep, cast a white woman as one of history's most famous white women, and the professional race-baiting grievance industry revs into gear.

28 posted on 07/16/2010 6:10:40 AM PDT by agere_contra (Obama did more damage to the Gulf economy in one day than Pemex/Ixtoc did in nine months)
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Who have they cast as Thor?

Eddie Murphy?...............

29 posted on 07/16/2010 6:10:40 AM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. But he does have him on speed dial...............)
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To: CondiArmy
"I can’t wait for Kevin Spacey’s triumphant role as Martin Luther King!!"

That's nothing, wait until Jim Carrey takes on the title role in Shaft:

"Shut yo' mouth...allllllll-rightee-then."

30 posted on 07/16/2010 6:11:16 AM PDT by RabidBartender (The hardest part about tending bar is figuring out who's drunk and who's just stupid.)
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To: agere_contra
STOP PRESS!

Chris Hemsworth has stepped down, here is the new THOR!!!


31 posted on 07/16/2010 6:18:15 AM PDT by agere_contra (Obama did more damage to the Gulf economy in one day than Pemex/Ixtoc did in nine months)
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To: VU4G10

Blacks were Nordic Viking too? /s


32 posted on 07/16/2010 6:18:15 AM PDT by cranked
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To: VU4G10
The film capital of the world, Obamawood, will never stop stuffing all the PC and leftist garbage and distortions it can down the throats of movie goers.

The interesting part of this is that the industry can count on a certain percentage of the population to give of it's time and treasure to Obamawood no matter what.

The flickering screen has always had an historic and hypnotic hold on X numbers of the population....and it always will.

No matter what garbage and propaganda is ground out by the studios these days, they can always count on enough of a zombie paying audience that is evidently sustainable for the industry.

Leni

33 posted on 07/16/2010 6:21:35 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: 2001convSVT; VU4G10

>>> By miss casting the title role the movie is sure to be a box office flop.

I have no particular opinion about the actor playing the title role, but the title role is not Heimdall. If they want a black Heimdall, why not?

For what it’s worth, I similarly was initially against the black actor being cast in the Spiderman movie as the Kingpin. Kingpin wasn’t black. After a couple minutes I let it go, recognizing the Green Mile actor other then for his skin color was actually an excellent choice.

Heimdall is a son of Odin and is the watchmen of the gods at Bifrost, the bridge that links Asgard and Midgard. He will sound the Gjallarhorn to call the gods to Ragnarok when the Frost Giants attack.

However he is also the son of nine maidens, who are also sisters. What these maidens were is the subject of conjecture. Some say they were the waves of the sea, some that they were giantesses or even valkyries. Their names, though, have been recorded: Gjalp, Greip, Eistla, Eyrgiafa, Ulfun, Angeyja, Imdr, Atla and Jarnsaxa.

As Rig he is the father of mankind. With his sons, Thrall, Karl and Jarl.

So actually, if you consider it there is no reason why you can’t have a black Aesir. Odin was a man about town. “It’s good to be da king”.


34 posted on 07/16/2010 6:22:52 AM PDT by tlb
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However he is also the son of nine maidens, who are also sisters.

Just what we need, another God-like being with no birth certificate, LOL

35 posted on 07/16/2010 6:25:55 AM PDT by agere_contra (Obama did more damage to the Gulf economy in one day than Pemex/Ixtoc did in nine months)
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To: VU4G10

Untwist your panties and pull up your big boy pants. Kenneth Branagh’s “Much Ado About Nothing” had Denzel Washington playing the Italian Prince “Don Pedro” with Keanu Reeves as his brother. That was close to 15 years ago.

It’s no big deal.


36 posted on 07/16/2010 6:27:43 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: VU4G10
This is as good as having a black Jesus or black Santa Claus!
37 posted on 07/16/2010 6:50:28 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
Untwist your panties and pull up your big boy pants. Kenneth Branagh’s “Much Ado About Nothing” had Denzel Washington playing the Italian Prince “Don Pedro” with Keanu Reeves as his brother. That was close to 15 years ago.

And those were casting mistakes. Denzel is a favorite actor of mine, but he really did not read Shakespeare well, IMO. Keanu Reeves was awful, and Michael Keaton was not funny in one of Shakespeare's funniest roles (Dogberry).

Branagh likewise made casting errors in Hamlet with Jack Lemmon godawful as Marcellus and Billy Crystal and Robin Williams adding nothing to the proceedings, either.

Branagh seems to think such casting will bring in more non-Shakespeareans. All he does is bring his films down when he casts people who are wrong for their roles. You are correct that this type of casting is nothing new with Branagh. Looks like he will make similar mistakes with this new Thor film.

38 posted on 07/16/2010 7:12:13 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: VU4G10
Ah, yes. Heimdall the White is now a black man.

Does anyone remember the Disney Cinderella where Cinderella was black, the prince Filipino, the queen black, the king white and the evil stepmother white with one black and one white daughter?

I was such a fan of the Lesley Ann Warren one back in the sixties, but this was unwatchable. I can accept a fairy godmother who looks whatever but the multiracial families were ludicrous. What a turnoff.

I was their natural audience for that film, I couldn't even get through it. If they wanted to make a black Cinderella, make a black Cinderella. But a black royal and a white royal make a filapino? Geez.

I feel the same way about the Thor film. Black actors are fine, but this one is so in your face see how wonderfully multicultural we are. It's a turn off. It's not the black and white people that turn me off. It's the obnoxious thing that "We are denying the whole original story to shove our PC correctness in your face" thing.

rant off/

39 posted on 07/16/2010 7:13:13 AM PDT by I still care (I believe in the universality of freedom -George Bush, asked if he regrets going to war.)
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I agree that Keanu was awful and Keaton was off as Dogberry, but Denzel was terrific! If you don’t agree that he was good, we are going to just disagree on that point forever.


40 posted on 07/16/2010 7:17:35 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: I still care

41 posted on 07/16/2010 7:22:05 AM PDT by usmcobra (NASA outreach to Muslims if I were in charge:The complete collection of "I dream of Jennie" on DVD.)
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To: VU4G10

He is a good actor at least.


42 posted on 07/16/2010 7:22:43 AM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: VU4G10
The pendulum swings both ways in Hollywood ...

Mickey Rooney as Mr. Yunioshi in Breakfast at Tiffany’s

43 posted on 07/16/2010 7:34:52 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: tlb
LOL.

Heimdall is known as “the father of mankind” because among his children were slaves, freemen and princes. His sons were not named Thrall Karl and Jarl; Thrall means slave, Karl means freeman, and Jarl means lord or prince.

Odin was indeed famous for wandering, and who knows where he picked up those nine sisters!

Hopefully, like Kingpin in Daredevil (not Spiderman), the actor in the roll will transcend his skin color and play a good character.

44 posted on 07/16/2010 7:39:08 AM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: Liberty Valance
That's a good one but I like this one better.


45 posted on 07/16/2010 7:47:16 AM PDT by Varda
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Oh, Denzel was not awful in Much Ado by any means. I just thought he was a tad uncomfortable with the verse.


46 posted on 07/16/2010 8:08:43 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: Varda

Ha! I had forgotten that one. Thanks.


47 posted on 07/16/2010 8:18:58 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: martin_fierro; Mr. Silverback; Slings and Arrows

He’s from the “economically distressed” section of Asgard! ;)


48 posted on 07/16/2010 9:33:07 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (http://www.conservatives4palin.com/)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; MeekOneGOP; Conspiracy Guy; DocRock; King Prout; Darksheare; OSHA; ...
They're casting Ron Jeremy as the Midgard Serpent.


49 posted on 07/16/2010 12:28:52 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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They're casting Ron Jeremy as the Midgard Serpent.

... and Bea Arthur as Odin, the All-Father! ;)

50 posted on 07/16/2010 12:32:01 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (http://www.conservatives4palin.com/)
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