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Oh my: Mel Gibson tapes might have been doctored
Hotair ^ | 07/16/2010 | Allahpundit

Posted on 07/16/2010 8:26:31 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: HearMe
he pretty much admits it in the tapes.

But if those tapes end up having been doctored, how can you count on anything he supposedly said to be real? He doesn't have a history of abuse, according to his former wife.

51 posted on 07/16/2010 9:59:48 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: HearMe; kcvl
Her lips, particularly the bottom one, is obviously swollen.

Her mouth ALWAYS looks like that. Google pics of her. Let me tell you, if someone punches you in the mouth, the damage is obvious. It's called a fat lip. And it's bloody from hitting your teeth. And one would NOT be getting dental care the next day.

52 posted on 07/16/2010 10:00:44 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: HearMe

“You people”?!

Maybe because some of us believe she is a gold digging liar.

BTW, her lips are naturally ‘FAT’...

Oksana Demanded Millions for Tapes ... Allegedly

7/16/2010 12:55 AM PDT by TMZ Staff

Sources connected with Mel Gibson tell TMZ they have “hard proof” Oksana Grigorieva tried to extort Gibson, demanding more than $10 million from the actor in return for keeping the secret tapes just that — secret.

Our sources claim Oksana demanded a specific amount of money. They would not reveal the exact sum but say it’s more than $10 million. And the sources say there are emails and other “physical evidence” to prove it. As one source said, “There’s a long trail of evidence”

TMZ broke the story .... Mel’s lawyers will be meeting with L.A. County Sheriff’s deputies, making a presentation of evidence which includes alleged evidence of extortion. We’re told the lawyers want the Sheriff’s Department to launch a criminal investigation after they present deputies with emails and other physical evidence.

http://tinyurl.com/2djop3c


53 posted on 07/16/2010 10:00:48 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Mere Survival

He lost 2. One to death.


54 posted on 07/16/2010 10:01:37 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: kcvl; HearMe

Check HearMe’s signup and posting history.


55 posted on 07/16/2010 10:03:54 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Latest picture of Oksana

56 posted on 07/16/2010 10:05:19 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: HearMe

Fat lips, Oksana Grigorieva

They don't look any different to me than the 'dentist picture'.

I think her lying butt is about to be investigated for extortion. Her little game might have just been BUSTED!

57 posted on 07/16/2010 10:05:36 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: DJ MacWoW

Mel lost the wife he was married to for 28 years by choice . . . divorcing her to take up with this much younger woman. Very bad and immoral choice unless his wife cheated on him.


58 posted on 07/16/2010 10:06:06 AM PDT by Mere Survival (The time to fight was yesterday but now will have to do.)
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To: Mere Survival
And? I said He lost 2. One to death.
59 posted on 07/16/2010 10:08:19 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: isthisnickcool

Yeah Mel is crazy but he’s a freaking artistic genius. Same with Michael Jackson.


60 posted on 07/16/2010 10:08:44 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Mere Survival

Too sadly true.


61 posted on 07/16/2010 10:10:00 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ

Exactly.

Generally, the word of an ex-wife is often not one’s best defense. ;>) He is fortunate in that regard. LOL


62 posted on 07/16/2010 10:11:34 AM PDT by Gator113 (God save the Republic.....)
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To: All
What's with the polarized thinking on here? Ofcourse, it is Mel GIbson on those tapes. Yes, he is obviously deranged. And yes, she is a gold digger who used him, released the tapes for profit and is playing a dangerous game. Also, a very short sighted one because a career ruined Mel GIbson can't keep her in the chips. It's not either or, water seeks it's own level.

Mel thought he was getting a lady on his arm and a whore in the bedroom. More than likely, he was getting a temporary whore in the bedroom until she roped him in. Then she was a lady in the bedroom and a whore everywhere else. Oldest trick in the book and yet they always fall for it.

63 posted on 07/16/2010 10:11:50 AM PDT by riri
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To: SeekAndFind

She has “poofy” lips. Sometimes more than others. See 57.


64 posted on 07/16/2010 10:12:02 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: HearMe

met Bond star Timothy Dalton while working as an interpreter to Russian director Nikita Mikhalkov. The duo married in 1997 and have one son, Alexander, of whom they share joint custody. Just 27 at the time, she already had one marriage under her belt, having tied the knot with British artist Nicholas Rowland in 1992, a union which paved the way for her relocation to the U.K. and her later meeting with Dalton.

Read more: http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/detail.jsp?contentId=190543#ixzz0trkGzhJ4

She is a singer.

She has a well-documented like of technology.

Grigorieva was working as a hostess for the Romanav Restaurant & Lounge in Studio City


65 posted on 07/16/2010 10:13:02 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: riri
Ofcourse, it is Mel GIbson on those tapes.

The CD's were given to Sheriffs Dept yesterday. Forensics will examine them.

66 posted on 07/16/2010 10:18:40 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: wardaddy
oddly enough my wife is somewhat sympathetic to Gibson through all this.....

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Some gals are just suckers for troubled Irish guys.

67 posted on 07/16/2010 10:23:45 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: Mere Survival

“Cheating Mel Gibson had a string of girlfriends throughout the years”

http://www.celebitchy.com/48014/cheating_mel_gibson_had_a_string_of_girlfriends_throughout_the_years/


68 posted on 07/16/2010 10:49:26 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: HearMe

Although not common, there are a few women that need a good smack in the face..I have know a couple...real bit*hy...feel sorry for their poor hubby’s...but they choose each other...


69 posted on 07/16/2010 11:56:11 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
I have known a lot of creative people in my life....some more “artsy” than others but almost everyone of them has a common thread. Everyone of them is almost like a tortured soul...never really sure of what they really want in life and can't focus to find it.
Mel Gibson reminds me of them in a lot of ways...so creative but if not creating something, they “create” chaos in their lives.
70 posted on 07/16/2010 11:59:02 AM PDT by 4everontheRight ("America is good. And if America ever ceases to be good, America will cease to be great." Tocquevill)
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To: HearMe
How do you people, I don’t know if you either a man or a woman, continue to defend a man who violently hits a woman.

So we should just take her word for it.

After all, a woman would never lie.

... for millions of dollars.

71 posted on 07/16/2010 12:00:49 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: DJ MacWoW

Mr G could put those tapes together here, without ever having met the man or spoken to him. Just getting hold of his movies would be all he needs, to get his voice. Analyzing them won’t tell you much, unless the guy was really sloppy about it. If you don’t have the original files (nobody uses tapes any more... all done in computers)it is hard to tell where the editing has been done.


72 posted on 07/16/2010 12:25:25 PM PDT by Grammy
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To: kcvl

Typically old teeth are filed down prior to apply veneers. It looks to me like she removed them with the intent of claiming she was hit. No way there wouldn’t have been soft tissue trauma. No way.


73 posted on 07/16/2010 12:27:55 PM PDT by Raebie
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To: Grammy
nobody uses tapes any more... all done in computers

Yeah. Articles state that she turned over CD's yesterday. And that forensics is looking at them. Gibsons attorneys say they have proof they are doctored.

74 posted on 07/16/2010 12:39:13 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Raebie

The Ace of Spades is saying that her dentist says he thinks she was punched in the temple, bit down hard, and dislodged her own veneers. Here’s the quote and the link:

“TMZ: Oksana’s Own Dentist Cries “Fake.” Actually he doesn’t say that at all, though TMZ cries that to get some attention.

What he claims is that he believes she was struck in the temple, not the mouth, and she reacted by biting down hard, breaking her own teeth.

But TMZ is representing him as casting doubt on how she received her injuries — well, sort of, but not really. He says the teeth were broken in a “chain reaction” injury (hit, then bite), but he’s not really undermining the claim that Oksana was hit, and that this hit, whether directly or indirectly, broke her teeth.”

http://minx.cc/?post=303701


75 posted on 07/16/2010 12:41:34 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Fantasywriter
They're going to have to decide just where he hit her.

Shocking photo emerges of Oksana Grigorieva after alleged attack by ex Mel Gibson

Though there was no swelling or bruising indicating a punch to the mouth, as Grigorieva originally told police,

76 posted on 07/16/2010 1:49:35 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I posted a link. That’s all. If you want to argue, please argue with someone else. Thank you.


77 posted on 07/16/2010 2:07:59 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Fantasywriter
I posted a link. That’s all.

So did I.

78 posted on 07/16/2010 2:12:40 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

You stalk me. I never post to you (originally). But the minute I post on one of these threads, you immediately answer me. I’m asking you to stop. With this many people posting on this thread, there must be someone else you can post to. You hounded me yesterday over things I never said. You have an ax to grind, but Not With Me. I am asking that you leave me alone. No more stalking. Thank you.


79 posted on 07/16/2010 2:21:22 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Fantasywriter

It’s not about you. You posted info. I posted info. NOTHING in my post is about you.


80 posted on 07/16/2010 2:24:55 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

If it’s not about me, then why post it to me??? I didn[’t post to you, and I don’t want to be posted to BY you. Ever. Period. That simple. I have asked nicely, with please and thank you. If you post to me again, it is a sick obsession. Get over it, and Leave Me Alone.


81 posted on 07/16/2010 2:31:01 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Right Cal Gal
While I cannot condone anything Gibson said on the tapes, I’m wondering if the statements made by HER as on the tape were the actual statements she made. She’s rather cool and detached while someone is screaming at her on the phone

I'm not totally sure about what he allegedly said--the difference in sound quality between the voices is notable, and I picked up on that right away.

Her voice sounded like someone doing a mediocre job of reading from a script, and I commented on that when I heard it.

82 posted on 07/16/2010 2:33:59 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Fantasywriter; Admin Moderator
If it’s not about me, then why post it to me???

You posted a link on an open forum. I also posted a link on an open forum that was related to your link.

If you post to me again, it is a sick obsession. Get over it, and Leave Me Alone.

Again, you posted on an open forum. I added a link. Grandmas don't stalk people. And I have said NOTHING to you comparable to the trash you've spewed at me.

I will avoid you now as you seem to NOT understand what an open forum is and I don't enjoy hysterics.

83 posted on 07/16/2010 2:37:47 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW; Admin Moderator

Now you are accusing me of spewing trash. I have taken great care to be polite and factual. Now all of a sudden I’m spewing trash. At least you could quote an example.


84 posted on 07/16/2010 2:46:20 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: kcvl

Thanks for posting that pic! Yes, the one front tooth is quite a bit smaller than the width of her other teeth, which usually means they have been covered (veneered) or capped. Looks like she chipped one veneer & the other just popped off...

If he hit her mouth, there should be tissue damage or bruising...


85 posted on 07/16/2010 4:49:47 PM PDT by Atom Smasher
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To: goseminoles

Absolutely, we’ve all said things when we’re fired up.


86 posted on 07/16/2010 4:51:21 PM PDT by Atom Smasher
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To: SeekAndFind

For some strange reason, the shape of Oksana’s mouth reminds me of Angelina Jolie’s...

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Maybe she went to the same cosmetic doctor as the octomom...who knows.


87 posted on 07/16/2010 4:54:06 PM PDT by Atom Smasher
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To: Atom Smasher

The dentist who took that picture (and supports her) also said that she had no damage to her mouth and that she wasn’t hit. She is about to be BUSTED!


88 posted on 07/16/2010 7:12:13 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Atom Smasher

The dentist who took that picture (and supports her) also said that she had no damage to her mouth and that she wasn’t hit. She is about to be BUSTED!


89 posted on 07/16/2010 7:12:13 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Right Cal Gal

On these tapes, she sounds like a B movie actor reading a script. And the first time I heard HIS comments, something just didn’t seem authentic about them. I’m usually the first one to want to skewer an emotionally/verbally abusive guy, but something tells me there’s more to the story—especially since the news that she is basically a gold-digging extortionist. And, as most of us women end up saying about Oksana, “She’s not even that pretty . . .”


90 posted on 07/17/2010 5:37:46 AM PDT by 1951Boomer
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To: SeekAndFind

New York Post Updated:

LA judge strips Mel Gibson of his lethal weapons

By TODD VENEZIA

Last Updated: 11:55 AM, July 17, 2010

A Los Angeles judge has ordered Mel Gibson to hand over his lethal weapons — on the same day a photo was released of what Gibson’s gal pal claims is her with busted front teeth courtesy of Gibson.

According to the ruling made at Thursday’s secret court hearing, the psycho screen star must surrender all the firearms he owns, as the nasty custody battle he’s waging with his Russian baby mama, Oksana Grigorieva, continues, RadarOnline reported yesterday.

http://www.nypost.com/f/print/news/national/gun_shy_gibson_J4VYbQCN9GLeSR8cVSwXPL


91 posted on 07/17/2010 9:43:25 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: kcvl

Yes, I saw that on the news last night...also, his wife of 29 years came forward & said he was never violent towards her or the children. This, the attorneys say, was a big plus for his side!


92 posted on 07/17/2010 2:27:51 PM PDT by Atom Smasher
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