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Grieving Florida dog owner warns of crocs
upi ^ | July 16, 2010

Posted on 07/16/2010 3:40:21 PM PDT by JoeProBono

CORAL GABLES, Fla.- A Florida woman whose dog was killed by a crocodile is urging the city of Coral Gables to put up warning signs for other pet owners along the canals.

Adriana Salcedo, whose Jack Russell terrier was killed by a crocodile earlier this week, said she is going door-to-door collecting signatures on a petition. The petition asks city officials to install signs along the canals warning pet owners of the crocodiles' presence, WSVN-TV, Miami-Ft. Lauderdale, Fla., reported Friday.

Salcedo said she will deliver the petition to Coral Gables City Hall once she collects at least 100 signatures.


TOPICS: Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: crocodile; dog; florida
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1 posted on 07/16/2010 3:40:24 PM PDT by JoeProBono
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To: JoeProBono

Alligators perhaps,,but not crocodiles.


2 posted on 07/16/2010 3:42:17 PM PDT by Concho
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To: JoeProBono

Crocodile? I thought the American Crocodile was an endangered species? Are they making a comeback in a big way?


4 posted on 07/16/2010 3:43:41 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: JoeProBono
Crocs Gators in this region of Florida?! Who'd a thunk? Better post signs.
5 posted on 07/16/2010 3:46:55 PM PDT by BufordP (Once a Marine - always a Marine ... Until Jack Murtha.)
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To: JoeProBono

“Warning: coffee is hot”

same sort of mentality

you live in FLA, don’t walk small dogs or children near the water. Unless you are trying for an ‘accident”


6 posted on 07/16/2010 3:46:55 PM PDT by dynachrome (Barack Hussein Obama yunikku khinaaziir!)
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To: JoeProBono

I was golfing the other day and I darn near stepped on one - a big one. It scared the white off my golf ball.


7 posted on 07/16/2010 3:47:05 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: Concho
thank you...
8 posted on 07/16/2010 3:47:48 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: All
Should have been hunted to extinction.
All of them- crocks and gators. Worthless. Completely worthless.
9 posted on 07/16/2010 3:49:24 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Concho
Crocodile making a comeback in Florida - St. Petersburg Times Dec 8, 2008 ...


10 posted on 07/16/2010 3:51:29 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: JoeProBono

It’s sad that lady lost her dog, but who’s hanging out by those canals that doesn’t know they have gators? I grew up in Florida, and it’s pretty much common knowledge that any body of fresh water is likely to have a gator or two in it from time to time.


11 posted on 07/16/2010 3:51:29 PM PDT by nysuperdoodle
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To: JoeProBono
Warning signs???? She must be a big liberal.. Here in Alabama,, we just opened a gator hunting season with a prize for the biggest,,,,gator tail is good eating!

PS,, anyone want to guess the bag limit on buck deer during deer season??? .........................ONE A DAY!

12 posted on 07/16/2010 3:51:54 PM PDT by MrPiper
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To: patriot08
All of them- crocks and gators. Worthless. Completely worthless.

Not true. Among other things they help keep the dog population down.

13 posted on 07/16/2010 3:54:23 PM PDT by Do Be (The heart is smarter than the head.)
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To: JoeProBono
Three of my four dogs have scars from alligator attacks. In eight years, I've had to shoot two alligators when they were stalking the dogs to close to the house.

Click on my name to see my four dogs.

14 posted on 07/16/2010 3:57:08 PM PDT by blam
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To: patriot08

That’s not entirely true.

Alligators dig ‘gator holes’ in the ‘glades that hold water through the dry season. Saves many species.


15 posted on 07/16/2010 3:57:33 PM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: Do Be

You’re a meanie. :)


16 posted on 07/16/2010 4:00:41 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: BufordP
> Gators in this region of Florida?!

FWC Relocates Miami-area Crocodile, Offers Safety Tips

Dec 23rd, 2008

The Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission (FWC), along with licensed trappers, captured and relocated a nearly 11-foot-long American crocodile from a Coral Gables, Miami neighborhood.

This is the second time this particular crocodile has been relocated. The crocodile found its way back to the same neighborhood canal after the previous relocation.

This crocodile has been blamed for eating at least three neighborhood dogs. In order to protect their pets, pet owners should keep their pets away from the water or water’s edge, on a leash or in a fenced area.


17 posted on 07/16/2010 4:01:17 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: JoeProBono

Wouldn’t you just love to toss these traitorous Democrats into a pit full of these hungry monsters and watch them get torn to pieces?


18 posted on 07/16/2010 4:04:53 PM PDT by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: BufordP
Sure, put up a sign every 20 feet or so, attach fencing to the sign posts. Set up automatic machinegun towers every 1000 feet or so; landmines work!

Alternatively, occasionally let a dog get eaten to kind of remind the people in the area that alligators do stuff!

19 posted on 07/16/2010 4:05:26 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Concho

“Alligators perhaps,,but not crocodiles.”

There is actually a National Crocodile Refuge at the tip of Florida......Estimated population is ~2000 individuals with large males growing to 20 feet......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_crocodile


20 posted on 07/16/2010 4:07:58 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (One aspect of the information age is the acceptance as fact of the uninformed opinion)
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To: muawiyah

I’m wondering why they can’t put up their own signs? Why does the government have to get involved?


21 posted on 07/16/2010 4:10:20 PM PDT by bubbacluck
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To: Do Be

Matbe we can start an export business to Iraq....


22 posted on 07/16/2010 4:10:45 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: blam
Blam, I guess you could keep shooting gators or you could give up your fire pond.

BTW, our youngest's girlfriend's dad just got a Kentucky Coon Hound. They have to be RUN ~ guy had about two dozen of them near where I grew up. Sometimes he'd turn a bunch loose to run with me on a bicycle.

They are reputed to JUMP 20 FT HIGH so you have to keep them in large pens on the backporch.

23 posted on 07/16/2010 4:11:29 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: blam
Nice "Repellant"! Great dogs!!


24 posted on 07/16/2010 4:11:29 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: JoeProBono
"...In order to protect their pets, pet owners should keep their pets away from the water or water’s edge, on a leash or in a fenced area carry firearms and when confronted - blast away with extreme prejudice."

Yep, that's a croc. So is "relocating" the damn things.

25 posted on 07/16/2010 4:11:49 PM PDT by BufordP (Once a Marine - always a Marine ... Until Jack Murtha.)
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To: Forty-Niner
males growing to 20 feet..

My wife has been talking about me again, hasn't she.

26 posted on 07/16/2010 4:15:09 PM PDT by Do Be (The heart is smarter than the head.)
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To: OldDeckHand
I was golfing the other day and I darn near stepped on one - a big one. It scared the white off my golf ball.

My cousin who now lives in Panama owned a sizeable amount of property about 10 minutes from the airport in Ft. Myers. His neighbor decided to dig some ponds behind his house and had to rid the property of a bunch of gators...........

So lets assume you live where this person did, what's the general attitude towards these alligators? If they decided to start shooting these things with say a .22 at close range, would the neighbors report them?

27 posted on 07/16/2010 4:17:17 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Peanut butter was just peanut butter until I found Free Republic.........)
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To: muawiyah
Sure, put up a sign every 20 feet or so...

Don't be absurd. 30 feet.

28 posted on 07/16/2010 4:18:29 PM PDT by BufordP (Once a Marine - always a Marine ... Until Jack Murtha.)
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To: muawiyah
"Blam, I guess you could keep shooting gators or you could give up your fire pond."

The lake is 17 acres on a 385 acre parcel.

29 posted on 07/16/2010 4:20:44 PM PDT by blam
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To: JoeProBono

Catch and release is for fish, NOT for dangerous predators.

A CEO retired to Sanabel, joined the Sanabel Conservancy, and was killed by a gator while walking his dog.

Had the enviro-whackos (like the gator dinner under discussion) not forbidden hunting/shooting of any gator seen as a risk to a citizen or their animals, these tragedies would not occur.

Contrary to enviro-whacko dogma, AgencyPersons really can’t create a Miami version of the Garden of Eden

Therefore, despite all the bureaucratic bafflegab from AgencyPersons, ParcMan, even ParcGirl, huge hungry reptiles do not live in peace with food animals like dogs, and humans.

Only regular applications of gunpowder and hot lead keeps predatory beasts afraid of man. The reality is that a predator either is afraid of man or is calculating man’s caloric content.


30 posted on 07/16/2010 4:20:44 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: BufordP

31 posted on 07/16/2010 4:24:10 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: Do Be

Holy crap, I just spewed beer all over my keyboard ! Laugh of the MONTH !


32 posted on 07/16/2010 4:25:02 PM PDT by onona (dbada)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Problem: “had to rid the property of a bunch of gators...........”

Solution: Tell Bubba they are good to eat with BBQ sauce, they are out of season.

Problem solved.

Have a case of long neck Bud and you will be invited to the BBQ.

;-)


33 posted on 07/16/2010 4:25:13 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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34 posted on 07/16/2010 4:27:59 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: GladesGuru
Only regular applications of gunpowder and hot lead keeps predatory beasts afraid of man

I agree with your statement but I'm not sure that gators or crocs have ever had a fear of anything..........They just sit, wait and feed on anything that comes within range.

35 posted on 07/16/2010 4:30:27 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Peanut butter was just peanut butter until I found Free Republic.........)
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To: patriot08
Should have been hunted to extinction.
All of them- crocks and gators. Worthless. Completely worthless.

Well, one can see that you sir, have never had a properly slow-cooked, hickory barbecued alligator tail.
Alligators can be wonderful...

And don't get me started on fashion accessories... my favorite belt cost me $100.00 and is pure alligator. I'm told it is illegal to wear through customs...

36 posted on 07/16/2010 4:34:29 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: Hot Tabasco
"If they decided to start shooting these things with say a .22 at close range, would the neighbors report them? "

It was Hilton Head Island. So, I'm guessing that they would say something. I usually keep my eyes pealed for gators, but this one was so close to a house, and a bit of a ways from the closest canal, it didn't even cross my mind that it might be an "alligator area".

After we were done, I mentioned it to the guys in the pro-shop. They said that usually when the alligator gets to the 5-foot range, they'll "remove" them. The one I saw seemed a whole lot bigger than that, so maybe he's operating on borrowed time.

37 posted on 07/16/2010 4:39:59 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: Do Be

“My wife has been talking about me again, hasn’t she.”

And, as usual engaging in hyperbole.....LOLOLOLOL

Beside she was not talking about Crocs but rather something about the Burmese Pythons that are overrunning the area! LOLOLOLOL


38 posted on 07/16/2010 4:45:53 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (One aspect of the information age is the acceptance as fact of the uninformed opinion)
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To: Concho

Crocks have a nastier disposition than gators....I never could remember which was worse so I had to come up with a saying that I could remember....Alligators are alright, Crocks are crazy..Both dangerous, but crocks are the worse of the 2


40 posted on 07/16/2010 5:38:53 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: Do Be
All of them- crocks and gators. Worthless. Completely worthless.

Not true. Among other things they help keep the dog population down.

They are also tasty. Alligator sausage is one of those wonderful Cajun treats that Yankees will never understand.

41 posted on 07/16/2010 5:42:03 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Hot Tabasco

Based on my experience the statement is valid.

For example, I tied up to a 2X4 a 5’ gator when I first moved to the ‘Glades and he stuck his head out from under the steps - sort of saying to me, “rope me”. And, I did.

Brer Gator found hissef tied to the 2X4 and then tenderized with a 1X2, applied with the wide side to Mr. Gator. I was careful not to break any of the subdermal plates, hit joints, eyes, etc.

When the treatment was applied for the second time, Brer gator realized that while I walked like no gator he ever saw, I was the dominant critter.

Was the lesson retained? To this day, I can only walk within about 30 feet of any gator in my area. Here, gators watch each other and when one flees, so do the rest. Even though they are mostly getting through life on brain stem activity, they can, and have learned.

Sheer dominance, best demonstrated with gunpowder, works wonders at improving beastly behavior.


42 posted on 07/16/2010 6:04:18 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: JoeProBono
A Florida woman whose dog was killed by a crocodile is urging the city of Coral Gables to put up warning signs for other pet owners along the canals.

I sure would hate to tell her there are probably pythons in there too.

43 posted on 07/16/2010 6:10:42 PM PDT by Hillbillary (I know how to deal with Communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: blam

Nice looking dogs blam!


44 posted on 07/16/2010 6:13:12 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: JoeProBono

Remind me not to go to FL unarmed! Them things look scary.


45 posted on 07/16/2010 6:36:41 PM PDT by TeachableMoment
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To: Hot Tabasco
"If they decided to start shooting these things with say a .22 at close range, would the neighbors report them?"

After the ricochets hit their houses...

46 posted on 07/16/2010 6:48:30 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: IrishCatholic
Lot's of Crocs around the nuke power plant at Turkey Point, could be some further North.

I am sorry for the lady but dammit, how can people move into a place and stay so absolutely ignorant about it? They stumble around with their heads in the clouds, or somewhere darker.

I could take my Maglite, go out right now, and with little effort find something that could bite me and hurt me. It's just part of Florida living.

47 posted on 07/16/2010 7:19:06 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: JoeProBono

former resident on Sorolla ave in 89-91


48 posted on 07/16/2010 7:20:09 PM PDT by wardaddy (I am not in favor of practical endorsements in primaries, endorse the conservative please)
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To: Vinnie
The wading birds seek out gator wallows and nest over them. The gators keep the climbing predators away from the nests .Without the gators we would see greatly reduced bird populations.

People are just supposed to have enough damned common sense to be aware of their surroundings or stay the hell indoors.

49 posted on 07/16/2010 7:24:24 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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Thanks, I've visited Florida only twice. The first time in high school and the second much later. The first time was for the beaches. The second was Crystal River to swim with the manatees. I knew about the alligators, but didn't know there were that many crocs. I thought they were on the endangered species list.
Are they near the plant for some reason? Warmer waters?
50 posted on 07/16/2010 8:35:32 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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