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Troubled Mel 'leaving the States' after selling his New York mansion at cut price
Daily Mail ^ | 07/18/2010

Posted on 07/18/2010 7:12:06 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: chae
Dr. Ross Shelden treated Oksana Grigorieva the day after Mel Gibson supposedly hit her — and Dr. Shelden offered to let her stay in his home!

No conflict of interest there? Could she have let him examine any other part of her body while soliciting this invitation?

101 posted on 07/18/2010 10:25:02 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (" 'Bush did it' is not a foreign policy." -- Victor Davis Hanson)
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To: chae
Thanks for the link. If it’s true I’ll change my opinion on what I think happened. Can we at least agree that if the tapes are real, he’s a horrible person and if they’re faked, she’s a liar?

Okay. I am not sticking up for Gibson as much as wanting the truth.

102 posted on 07/18/2010 10:38:41 AM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: TheOldLady

I guess I’m cursed at a foot over tinkerbell status.


103 posted on 07/18/2010 10:40:40 AM PDT by 50mm (Make money at home! Pimp your blog for $$$! Call (800) BLOGPIMP now...)
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To: whence911
How did they fake the anger in his voice?

I didn't say it was fake. Just because someone is angry doesn't mean they are violent.

104 posted on 07/18/2010 10:44:55 AM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: Albion Wilde

And who knows if she has not already stayed at his home. She could well be working the Dentist too (need some good witnesses you know)


105 posted on 07/18/2010 10:45:47 AM PDT by valkyry1
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To: SeekAndFind

Good for Mel. Get away from the slut, get back with your family, and take care of that baby.


106 posted on 07/18/2010 10:48:02 AM PDT by Hacksaw ("Don't march on Moscow"..)
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To: martin_fierro

HOLY SCHEISS!!!! That is the Godzilla of houses!!!!!


107 posted on 07/18/2010 10:49:49 AM PDT by Hacksaw ("Don't march on Moscow"..)
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To: 50mm

Mmmmm... 6’3” Sigh...

Must... NOT... flirt...

Elderly... dignified... Aaaarrrgggghh!


108 posted on 07/18/2010 10:56:18 AM PDT by TheOldLady (I am not humblegunner, and Pablo is very wily, but Salamander is humblegunner!)
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To: NavyCanDo

You are aware that the tapes are under scrutiny as being faked. There are a lot of Mel movies and interviews to lift lines from and fake these so please don’t fall for the Russian girlfriend’s dirty deeds until they are ruled real.


109 posted on 07/18/2010 10:56:45 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Guenevere

After 28 years together and 7 kids she probably still loves him.


110 posted on 07/18/2010 10:57:42 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: TheOldLady

Oops. Must have misunderstood tinkerbell status. I thought it was 5’0”.


111 posted on 07/18/2010 11:01:02 AM PDT by 50mm (Make money at home! Pimp your blog for $$$! Call (800) BLOGPIMP now...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sounds like Mel’s expecting the Roman Polanski treatment from the Australian courts.Hey,he just might be right.Europe refused to extradite one of *their* own and Australia just might follow suit (assuming he’s an Australian citizen too).If that’s his strategy he’d be wise to renounce his US citizenship tout suite.


112 posted on 07/18/2010 11:03:14 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (''I don't regret setting bombs,I feel we didn't do enough.'' ->Bill Ayers,Hussein's mentor,9/11/01)
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To: 50mm

Oh. Well. I take it back. ;-P


113 posted on 07/18/2010 11:04:12 AM PDT by TheOldLady (I am not humblegunner, and Pablo is very wily, but Salamander is humblegunner!)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I thought about buying it but I hate dusting and vaccuming...


114 posted on 07/18/2010 11:05:54 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Peanut butter was just peanut butter until I found Free Republic.........)
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To: mike-zed
Poor Mel.If only he had drugged and sodomized a 13 yr old, he’d be the toast of Hollywood.

Or,better still..."poor Mel,if only he hadn't made The Passion of the Christ he’d be the toast of Hollywood".

115 posted on 07/18/2010 11:06:05 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (''I don't regret setting bombs,I feel we didn't do enough.'' ->Bill Ayers,Hussein's mentor,9/11/01)
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To: chris_bdba
You are aware that the tapes are under scrutiny as being faked. There are a lot of Mel movies and interviews to lift lines from and fake these...

I've heard that too.But I'll be damned if it doesn't sound like even Steven Speilberg and George Lucas couldn't pull off something as convincing as those tapes sound (at least the 15 seconds,or so,that *I've* heard).

116 posted on 07/18/2010 11:10:02 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (''I don't regret setting bombs,I feel we didn't do enough.'' ->Bill Ayers,Hussein's mentor,9/11/01)
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To: Hot Tabasco
I thought about buying it but I hate dusting and vaccuming...

And don't forget the gardening and cleaning that pool! Ridding the place of cobwebs must be a real adventure.;-)

117 posted on 07/18/2010 11:32:14 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Gay State Conservative; chris_bdba

With digital equipment, you can do anything.


118 posted on 07/18/2010 11:34:21 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: martin_fierro

LOL...nice...


119 posted on 07/18/2010 11:41:54 AM PDT by Junior_G (Funny how liberals' love affair with Muslims began on 9/11)
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To: SeekAndFind

She must be a helluva woman...and they do have like 8-9 kids together

they have them and grandkids to think about

not just themselves

something so many of today’s parents do not grasp

Al and Tipper for example


120 posted on 07/18/2010 11:48:41 AM PDT by wardaddy (I have become....comfortably dumb.)
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To: Albion Wilde

Harvey Levin is a dick...nothing redeeming about him

one rung up the dung heap from Perez Hilton

imo

Levin is a gay Jewish(like u said) dwarf


121 posted on 07/18/2010 11:51:58 AM PDT by wardaddy (I have become....comfortably dumb.)
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To: wardaddy

I don’t find that anyone’s Jewishness or short stature are disqualifying factors from the human race as you imply. And his gayness is discreet. I merely pointed out those factors because they enter into a situation where Mel Gibson has denounced gays and Jews in his drunken rants. Levin’s not responding in kind, at least publicly, are to his credit. What is your excuse?


122 posted on 07/18/2010 12:08:45 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (" 'Bush did it' is not a foreign policy." -- Victor Davis Hanson)
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To: Slyfox
If he called her. He may or may not have been too drunk to even remember calling her. Or stone-cold sober, for once, and knowing very few people would believe him.

Yes, definitely a mess. Not to put too fine a point on it, he may also be every bad thing everyone has called him, lately. We just don't know, and may NEVER know.

I'm not really defending him, just trying to remind people that we really do not KNOW. Among other things, as you point out, it may not even be his voice, and as others have pointed out, even if it is, it may not be from the supposed phone call. We'll just have to wait and see what happens, and may never actually find out, either. If it provokes him to get himself squared away, maybe it will be worth it, in the long run, to all of us. If not, well, celebrities fallen from grace aren't exactly rare, are they?

123 posted on 07/18/2010 12:19:48 PM PDT by Old Student
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To: nmh

I agree with your assessment. I’m assuming he was drunk when she taped him, ugly drunks can say all kinds of crap and look bewildered once they sober up if someone tells them what they said or did. I remember college acquaintances who would yell all sorts of random expletives, and drunk dial people.

I’m glad his former wife is getting him out of here. It’s unfortunate, but part of the genius of an artist, is their partial insanity at times. Obviously mixing that with alcohol has negatively burdened Gibson.


124 posted on 07/18/2010 1:37:11 PM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: DJ MacWoW; whence911; raybbr

Visualize what computer graphics has done for animation and movies, and photoshop for pictures. You can do all that with audio as well.


125 posted on 07/18/2010 1:56:46 PM PDT by Grammy
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To: Grammy

Thanks!


126 posted on 07/18/2010 2:23:50 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The house was actually in Connecticut, and I’ll believe this rumor about going to Australia when I read it in Radar on Line.


127 posted on 07/18/2010 2:53:58 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta (I)
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To: Guenevere
..she must be truly selfless & full of mercy.

I think it goes beyond that. Theirs was a truly dysfunctional family and any woman who jumps back into that dysfunction has some problems of her own.

128 posted on 07/18/2010 3:16:14 PM PDT by LouAvul
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

She is an honorable woman beyond what we normally see in society. She is seeing him as out of sorts - out of his normal realm of behavior and she’s pulling his nasty sass back from the brink...because she loves him and has mercy on him.


129 posted on 07/18/2010 3:24:02 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: DJ MacWoW
This is pure gossip and they didn't even get it right. Old Mill Farm is in Greenwich, CT. It's also been for sale since 2007.

Greenwich is a suburb of NYC...less than 30 minutes from Grand Central Station by train.The majority of adults who live there (probably a huge majority) work in Manhattan.For a British paper that's close enough.

130 posted on 07/18/2010 3:27:53 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (''I don't regret setting bombs,I feel we didn't do enough.'' ->Bill Ayers,Hussein's mentor,9/11/01)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I suppose so but nothing in the article is correct. That property was for sale before he met the Russian. They are stretching the truth here.


131 posted on 07/18/2010 3:31:00 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
That property was for sale before he met the Russian. They are stretching the truth here.

I think what they're trying to communicate is that there's haste involved in some of his recent actions...a sense of urgency.If that's the case one question that could be asked is "when did he lower the price of this house?"

I know very little about this case.But what I do know suggests either that he's the victim of a pretty clever slander campaign (possible,given his wealth and conservative beliefs) or that he is,at the very least,in need of some serious psychiatric intervention...if not a swift kick in the....well,I'll stop there.

132 posted on 07/18/2010 3:41:28 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (''I don't regret setting bombs,I feel we didn't do enough.'' ->Bill Ayers,Hussein's mentor,9/11/01)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Since it’s been on the market for at least 3 years, and with the state of the economy, I think they lowered the price just to dump it. It’s beautiful and has award winning gardens but they’ve been trying to sell it for quite awhile.


133 posted on 07/18/2010 3:47:50 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Since it’s been on the market for at least 3 years, and with the state of the economy, I think they lowered the price just to dump it.

That's certainly possible.But it also seems possible to me that the "urgency' theory applies here.That urgency,perhaps,being motivated by his desire to get his assets out of this country in anticipation of an ugly (and *expensive*) fight in the courts.Fights that would probably involve requests by the Russian for obscene amounts of alimony/child support/"damages".

But we;ll probably never know for sure.

134 posted on 07/18/2010 4:00:13 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (''I don't regret setting bombs,I feel we didn't do enough.'' ->Bill Ayers,Hussein's mentor,9/11/01)
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To: Gay State Conservative
They had a court mediated agreement for $10,000 a month. She reneged on child visitation. So they are back in court.

His wife was awarded half, $400 mil.

He has contracts for 2 movies. I don't think he's leaving. I think it's BS.

135 posted on 07/18/2010 4:07:09 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
He has contracts for 2 movies. I don't think he's leaving. I think it's BS.

But could it be that he's now "toxic" and the backers of those films will find a way to wiggle out? Is he now,in the eyes of the powers that be in Hollyweird and/or the movie going public,what Roman Polanski *should* have been for the last 30+ years?

136 posted on 07/18/2010 4:17:53 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (''I don't regret setting bombs,I feel we didn't do enough.'' ->Bill Ayers,Hussein's mentor,9/11/01)
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To: Gay State Conservative

He has enough money that it doesn’t matter. One film is with his friend, Jodie Foster. The other he wrote. He already proved that he doesn’t need Hollywood. And these movies are in the works for the next 2 years. Things should be settled by then as to whether the Russian is telling the truth.


137 posted on 07/18/2010 4:20:49 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Albion Wilde
as is your customary wont, you misunderstood my post hence replying to your surmises based on your lack of comprehesion are not warranted

i love the way PC freepers always make broad accusation that someone said something racist or bigoted when they did no such thing and then take the usual high road brimming with their own bigotry and stereotypical invective and proclaim self righteous victory

a Yankee trait since forever..and the road to ruin for this nnation and or culture...whether Jewish, Homosexual, dwarf or not

that you would tout Harvey Levin on a conservative forum says plenty...we can let those perusing this thread determine for themselves

good day

138 posted on 07/18/2010 4:30:49 PM PDT by wardaddy (I have become....comfortably dumb.)
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To: TribalPrincess2U
It would be great to see Mad Max in his twilight years living on the coast with the refinery/oil well people that he saved, saving them again from threats in a world gone mad.
139 posted on 07/19/2010 5:16:38 AM PDT by 2001convSVT ("Hand out pocket Constitutions to everyone you can")
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To: wardaddy

Your post has done exactly what it accused me of. You apparently missed my point, which is that Harvey Levin seems to be the exact opposite of a man who would defend Mel Gibson. You then reviled Harvey Levin and me as a PC northerner who “endorsed” him. You condemned my confidence in expressing an opinion as “self-righteous”; yet you are the one who, while missing the point, thundered judgments about who belongs on FR and who does not; and how Yankees (like me, you imply) are ruining this nation.

Because my point was that Levin is so manifestly, obviously decadent that he is the last person one would think to display compassion for Gibson, the reading comprehension issues are yours.

Possibly you cannot bear to think that someone like Levin, who exemplifies all that you hate about pop kulture, has any redeeming value as a human being, and therefore you must also hate me for being astonished that he was man enough to say something generous about a Christian hetero conservative.

Has it occurred to you that Levin may well have chosen to appear objective in order to make more money hammering the story on his show and web site as well as appearing on the lib-loathed FoxNews, to which my original post referred? Even if he’s only doing it for the money, his ability to choose profits over anti-conservative bigotry is nearly unique in Hollywood. And you think that’s a great endorsement? That’s like looking in a sewer and saying, “Most turds sink, but that one floated for a second.”

If that’s “PC” or “northern” of me, well, kiss ma grits, honey.


140 posted on 07/19/2010 10:48:52 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (" 'Bush did it' is not a foreign policy." -- Victor Davis Hanson)
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To: SeekAndFind

MAYBE Mel has come to his senses, but he still needs professional help, imo.


141 posted on 07/19/2010 8:24:17 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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