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13-year-old girl dies in crash, trying to pass slower traffic in construction zone
Missoulian ^ | July 19, 2010

Posted on 07/22/2010 3:32:02 PM PDT by oprahstheantichrist

BILLINGS - The Montana Highway Patrol says a 13-year-old girl was killed after trying to pass a slower vehicle in an Interstate 94 construction zone in Dawson County.

Trooper Glen Quinnell identified the victim as Heather Giles of Billings.

The patrol says Giles was driving a car eastbound and approaching a construction zone where traffic was restricted to one lane. She sped up and tried to pass another vehicle in the median when she lost control of the car, causing it to roll. The vehicle came to rest on its top in the westbound lanes.

Giles was pronounced dead at a Glendive hospital. A 14-year-old female passenger was injured.

Quinnell says the vehicle belonged to the immediate family of the passenger. The trooper says the girls took the car to meet with a boy in Sidney and "they didn't think about the consequences."


TOPICS: Local News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: montana
Horrifying.

This is written as though it's not unusual for a 13 yr old to have a driver's license. Is that the case in Montana?

1 posted on 07/22/2010 3:32:06 PM PDT by oprahstheantichrist
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To: oprahstheantichrist

Wow! That’s terrible.


2 posted on 07/22/2010 3:33:10 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: oprahstheantichrist

In rural areas 12 and 13 year olds frequently drive. I know when I was living in Hulbert and Tahlequah, OK there were kids driving.


3 posted on 07/22/2010 3:34:25 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: oprahstheantichrist

Probably she didnt have one. When i was young back in rural Wyoming, it wasnt uncommon at all to drive while young. though there wasnt much traffic in those days :)


4 posted on 07/22/2010 3:34:47 PM PDT by wyowolf ("we were the winners , cause we didn't know we could fail.")
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To: oprahstheantichrist

I don’t think she was licensed, I didn’t read that in the story. I think the 13 and 14 year old girls just took the car to go meet the boy.


5 posted on 07/22/2010 3:35:11 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: oprahstheantichrist

Allmost all kids in rural areas learn how to drive tractors at an early age ... That is practical reality.


6 posted on 07/22/2010 3:37:25 PM PDT by OldNavyVet (One trillion days, at 365 days per year, is 2,739,726,027 years ... almost 3 billion years)
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To: oprahstheantichrist

13 years old and driving? There ought to be a law!


7 posted on 07/22/2010 3:37:27 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (''I don't regret setting bombs,I feel we didn't do enough.'' ->Bill Ayers,Hussein's mentor,9/11/01)
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To: oprahstheantichrist

There was a horrible deadly accident in Dallas a few years back caused by some 12-13 year old boys joyriding in a pickup truck. They flew off one interstate overpass and into a gasoline tank truck. It was a huge explosion, truck driver instantly dead, also other drivers. Turns out the kids were members of this group of gypsy like people called the Travelers who frequently let underage kids drive.


8 posted on 07/22/2010 3:39:56 PM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: OldNavyVet
Allmost all kids in rural areas learn how to drive tractors at an early age ...

Yes, that's correct, that's how I learned. I was driving (legally) at 14. These kids took a car they weren't supposed to and got in over their heads. My heart's out to all concerned.

9 posted on 07/22/2010 3:40:47 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: oprahstheantichrist

How do they know she didn’t think of the consequences?


10 posted on 07/22/2010 3:41:22 PM PDT by Krankor
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To: Vendome

I remember being 8-9 and driving a tractor, snowmobile and hay trailer in the fields of my grandparents ranch to feed horses in the winter in Michigan.


11 posted on 07/22/2010 3:45:49 PM PDT by edcoil (OK, so what's the speed of dark?)
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To: sportutegrl
That was in west Fort Worth.

Some more travelers were killed (again west Fort Worth) a few weeks ago, running from cops after stealing a pallet of shingles.

12 posted on 07/22/2010 3:48:18 PM PDT by Deaf Smith
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To: oprahstheantichrist

I got my driver license when I was fourteen. At that time you had to get a letter from the county judge stating that it was necessary for you to have a license. I went to the judge’s office and his secretary typed a one sentence letter and I’m pretty sure that the secretary signed the judge’s name. Took that to take the test and get my license.


13 posted on 07/22/2010 3:51:21 PM PDT by FreePaul
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To: oprahstheantichrist
The trooper says the girls took the car to meet with a boy in Sidney and "they didn't think about the consequences."

Doesn't say licensed just that they took the car.

14 posted on 07/22/2010 3:52:18 PM PDT by MontanaBeth (Born Conservative)
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To: OldNavyVet

True! My daughter learned to drive a tractor and rake hay when she was 9. My granddaughter is 14 and drives the tractor and bushhogs the fields when needed. My daughter got her driver’s license at 16 and was immediately driving a ton truck pulling a horse trailer or a 24ft triple axle flatbed trailer loaded with hay or a tractor. I learned to drive a tractor, a big truck and pull trailers when I was a kid. Country kids are already pros at driving by the time they reach learner permit age of 15.


15 posted on 07/22/2010 4:04:34 PM PDT by Melinda in TN
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To: edcoil

My brothers, cousins and neighbors were all all doing the same, except for the snowmobile. Doesn’t snow much or even enough to justify one.

But, they did ride combines, motorcycles and ATV’s.

I did a month of haying. Never again.


16 posted on 07/22/2010 4:06:10 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: OldNavyVet
Allmost all kids in rural areas learn how to drive tractors at an early age ... That is practical reality.

TRUE.

But it still means they have exactly ZERO experience handling a heavy vehicle on a highway with other traffic, at highway speeds.

17 posted on 07/22/2010 4:07:29 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: oprahstheantichrist

um... why is a 13 year old driving a car??


18 posted on 07/22/2010 4:09:39 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: UCANSEE2

They have as much experience as a 16-18 year old.

My recollection was no one got crazy until they actually go their own car. Until then, you were driving a tool that accounts for your livelihood and they/we treated it as such.


19 posted on 07/22/2010 4:10:19 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Melinda in TN

no license is required to drive on your own property of course


20 posted on 07/22/2010 4:11:52 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: sportutegrl
There was a horrible deadly accident in Dallas a few years back caused by some 12-13 year old boys joyriding in a pickup truck. They flew off one interstate overpass and into a gasoline tank truck. It was a huge explosion, truck driver instantly dead, also other drivers. Turns out the kids were members of this group of gypsy like people called the Travelers who frequently let underage kids drive.

Interesting. I ran across a couple of these "Travelers" recently. They were selling Bionic Balance Bands at a craftshow I have a vendor's booth at. The "band" costs $55 and promises to give a person perfect balance through some antenna in the wrist band. Total carnival ripoff scam, as far as I can tell. The demonstrate it's effectiveness by having the mark stand on one foot and spread their arms while the seller pushes down on an arm. Total carp, typical carney games.

21 posted on 07/22/2010 4:13:33 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck (US out of the UN - UN out of the US)
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To: UCANSEE2

I think all the tractor driving etc. mentioned by people on this thread would be off road.

It’s when they get on the road and have to deal with other traffic that problems ensue.


22 posted on 07/22/2010 4:15:38 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: GeronL

No, my point was that they have experience driving. Country kids do get out on the road at times but it’s usually a very short drive on rural roads. They can drive tractors on the road. I see 12 and 13 year olds driving tractors on the road regularly but we’re talking country roads where houses might be half a mile apart or more. It’s not a big jump from that to driving a vehicle in light traffic.


23 posted on 07/22/2010 4:21:19 PM PDT by Melinda in TN
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To: GeronL

What? A loophole? How did we bureaucrats miss that one?

We’ll fix that before you know it.


24 posted on 07/22/2010 4:22:23 PM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: Vendome
They have as much experience as a 16-18 year old.

But experience where?

Out in a field driving a combine? When you hit the brakes, the combine stops damn quick.

Not much traffic there.

I will grant you, age is not what makes the difference.

Most NEW drivers (licensed or not) have NO CLUE how much distance it takes to stop the average car going 60mph. Relevant experience is what was needed.

The kind of experience that tells you SPEEDING UP when entering a CONSTRUCTION ZONE can get you KILLED.

This girl got that experience, but a little too late.

25 posted on 07/22/2010 4:22:26 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: oprahstheantichrist

This entire thing could have been avoided if we’d have just taken all the cars out of the hands of all the people.

Ban all cars. Save lives.


26 posted on 07/22/2010 4:23:07 PM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: Melinda in TN
Country kids are already pros at driving by the time they reach learner permit age of 15.

That's not necessarily true. I was a country kid and drove tractor, truck for my dad, but when I took the driver's training, I got in the car I looked down and said, "where's the clutch? Where's the stick?" Also, it didn't help that I was partnered up with the hottest girl in our class and every time I checked the rear view mirror.. yeah, I was swerving all over the road....
27 posted on 07/22/2010 4:31:56 PM PDT by swatbuznik
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To: oprahstheantichrist

I started driving at age 11.
A bit young but not out of the norm for the more rural areas.


28 posted on 07/22/2010 5:09:59 PM PDT by duffus (Deport all Aliens, Secure the Border, Recall the Troops, Shrink the Government.)
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To: Vendome
In rural areas 12 and 13 year olds frequently drive.

I wonder if legislation will be proposed in response to this tragedy, for the children.

BTW, the FR timestamps are off by about four minutes.

29 posted on 07/22/2010 5:15:26 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: oprahstheantichrist

Sad. RIP.


30 posted on 07/22/2010 5:49:30 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: GeronL
no license is required to drive on your own property of course

...yet.

31 posted on 07/22/2010 5:52:31 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: GeronL

um... why is a 13 year old driving a car??


When I was 13 I knew everything, feared nothing and always knew what the other person was going to do. I knew I could out drive anyone in any situation at any speed.


32 posted on 07/22/2010 7:35:39 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey (here's my checkbook and my car-keys, my credit carThe bigger the government = The smaller the people)
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To: edcoil
I remember being 8-9 and driving a tractor, snowmobile and hay trailer ...

I learned to drive when I was 5. I was tall for my age, and my parents made me responsible for the clutch when they push-started the VW (my mom always left the lights on). It took a year or two before I learned to use the starter...;)

I actually learned to fly my mom's j-3 cub straight and level when I was 3. She even let me take it around the pattern when I learned to coordinate my turns.

But the funny thing is - I learned to ride a bicycle after I learned to drive - and I had to use training wheels...

33 posted on 07/22/2010 8:34:49 PM PDT by no-s (B.L.O.A.T. and every day...because some day soon they won't be making any more...for you.)
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To: Joan Kerrey

did you wear a cape?, my 7-year old nephew does!


34 posted on 07/22/2010 8:45:16 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: West Texas Chuck

Bionic Band...

The very same bands (different name) are being advertised on cable TV as we speak. I saw the ads on both A&E and TNT. They were demonstrating the same balancing act you described.


35 posted on 07/22/2010 9:07:33 PM PDT by CTOCS (I live in my own little world. But, it's okay. They know me there....)
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To: West Texas Chuck; sportutegrl
Travelers, or Irish Travelers, are sometimes called 'Tinkers', and may or may not be of Gypsy ethnicity, but fill the same role in the US, Ireland, and Great Britain.
36 posted on 07/22/2010 9:14:55 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Good night. I expect more respect tomorrow - Danny H (RIP))
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