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Judges Ruling Sparks National Debate Over Cheerleading Sport or No Sport?
FOXNEWS ^ | July 22, 2010 | Diane Macedo

Posted on 07/22/2010 5:52:07 PM PDT by Bad~Rodeo

A federal judge's ruling that cheerleading is not a sport has taken a longtime debate out of the courtroom and into homes, gyms, schools and colleges nationwide. The never-ending question: Are cheerleaders athletes?

U.S. District Judge Stefan Underhill ruled Wednesday that Quinnipiac University in New Jersey could not replace its women's volleyball team with a competitive cheering squad, saying cheerleading is "too underdeveloped and disorganized" to be treated as an official collegiate sport.

George W. Bush as a cheerleader at Andover

Under the nation's Title IX regulations, which require universities receiving federal funds to offer equal athletic opportunities to both sexes, a sport must have coaches, practices, and competitions during a defined season. It must also have a governing organization, and its primary goal must be to compete, not just support other teams.

But cheerleading advocates say their activity meets those requirements and more.

"It's probably the hardest sport in any venue, whether it be club cheerleading, high school, recreational or college," said Jane Marella, director of the Gymnastics and Cheerleading Academy of Connecticut and cheerleading coach at Trumbull High School.

Cheerleaders do compete against other teams, Marella said -- just not one team at a time, like in traditional sports. And though cheerleaders cheer for other school teams, that's just a small part of the activity.

"This isn't about going in there and cheering for their football and basketball teams, it's about competing," Marella said. "The girls have to be gymnasts, they have to be able to tumble, they have to be dancers, they have to be able to be strong to lift other people or be lifted, they have to be able to have endurance . . . it's not the rah, rah with the pom poms."

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Society; Sports
KEYWORDS: cheerleading; debate; sport

1 posted on 07/22/2010 5:52:09 PM PDT by Bad~Rodeo
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To: Bad~Rodeo

If cheer leading could be turned into full contact cheerleading it might qualify as a sport. Or if the cheers could be judged against the other team and them added to the scores of the football teams they are cheering for it might also qualify as a sport.


2 posted on 07/22/2010 5:55:06 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Bad~Rodeo

HBO’s Penn & Teller Bulls*&^ did a good episode on Cheerleaders and sport ranking a couple of weeks ago.


3 posted on 07/22/2010 5:57:02 PM PDT by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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To: Bad~Rodeo

Siss Boom Yawn!


4 posted on 07/22/2010 5:57:59 PM PDT by Mobties
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To: Jack Hydrazine
More like this?


5 posted on 07/22/2010 5:58:48 PM PDT by Bad~Rodeo (NOBAMA 2012)
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To: Bad~Rodeo

It’s certainly a physical activity, but I’m not sure that it qualifies as a sport.


6 posted on 07/22/2010 5:59:46 PM PDT by chris37
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To: Bad~Rodeo

It’s more of a sport than golf is.


7 posted on 07/22/2010 6:00:23 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Bad~Rodeo
When they compete, they are a competitive sport.

When they cheer, they are cheering a sport.

It takes a great deal of athleticism, and it has one of the highest rates of injury of any athletic school activity.

8 posted on 07/22/2010 6:00:36 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: Bad~Rodeo

Zackly!


9 posted on 07/22/2010 6:01:11 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: chris37

I always thought of it more of an event like Nascar or golf but I read somewhere if an event is governed by a set of rules than it’s a sport. One thing for sure is that there’s money to be made


10 posted on 07/22/2010 6:03:00 PM PDT by Bad~Rodeo (NOBAMA 2012)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Or if the cheers could be judged against the other team and them added to the scores of the football teams they are cheering for it might also qualify as a sport.

I guessed you missed that this would be competitive cheerleading. It's nearly as athletic as gymnastics, certainly much more so than say, Golf or bowling.

cheerleading is "too underdeveloped and disorganized" to be treated as an official collegiate sport.

The judge is full of caca del toro.

11 posted on 07/22/2010 6:06:11 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: allmendream
it takes a great deal of athleticism, and it has one of the highest rates of injury of any athletic school activity.

My son's gf is in competitive cheerleading and 2yrs ago fell from the top of a pyramid and fractured her neck. Did she quit?....hell no, L~

12 posted on 07/22/2010 6:06:36 PM PDT by Bad~Rodeo (NOBAMA 2012)
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To: Bad~Rodeo
Overcoming injury to compete?

Sounds vaguely like sportsmanship to me. ;)

Should qualify under Title IX.

13 posted on 07/22/2010 6:11:50 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: Bad~Rodeo

Whom can decided what is or is not a sport?

Dog sledding is a sport.

So is RC boat racing.

Even using catapults to fling pumpkins.

So cheerleading, with teams and organized competition, cant NOT be seen as one either.


14 posted on 07/22/2010 6:12:36 PM PDT by VanDeKoik (Iran doesnt have a 2nd admendment. Ya see how that turned out?)
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To: Bad~Rodeo

This is just a way to try to get around that corrupt Title IX. They have to give as many scholies to women as men even though they count the 95 Football scholorships which makes all the revenue.

They try to get cheerleading so they can give 10 more scholies to mens sports. When will women be declared equals?

Pray for Amrica


15 posted on 07/22/2010 6:15:12 PM PDT by bray (Did Rush say Absolute Failure?)
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To: Bad~Rodeo

It’s a kind of dance plus gymnastics.

Not exactly a sport, but not coach potatoe stuff, either.


16 posted on 07/22/2010 6:16:11 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: Bad~Rodeo
Cheer leading will become a sport when they tell me on what down they kick. LOL, Are is that punt.
17 posted on 07/22/2010 6:22:00 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Bad~Rodeo

It’s certainly athletic, and requires no less training and athleticism than anything universally recognized as a sport. But that’s the same with certain types of dance. Is competitive dancing a sport?


18 posted on 07/22/2010 6:27:34 PM PDT by Julia H. (Freedom of speech and freedom from criticism are mutually exclusive.)
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To: Bad~Rodeo

Cheerleading for men can be ... umm ... challenging.


19 posted on 07/22/2010 6:27:40 PM PDT by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: bray
When will women be declared equals?

When they don't need special sports and special treatment.

Do you agree that in order to be equal there should be no gender specific teams, just one volleyball team, one basketball team, one track team, one golf team, etc.?

20 posted on 07/22/2010 6:30:39 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
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To: Julia H.
Is competitive dancing a sport?

Post 14 claims that RC boat racing is a sport, why not

21 posted on 07/22/2010 6:32:15 PM PDT by Bad~Rodeo (NOBAMA 2012)
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To: bray

I agree with your suggestion that women be treated as equals in sports. Instead of men and women’s basketball, for example, just have one basketball team made up of the best players, whether male or female. Same for golf, tennis, softball, baseball, football, track, soccer, etc. etc. This will completely avoid the issue of men vs. women’s sports.


22 posted on 07/22/2010 6:35:40 PM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: Bad~Rodeo

I don’t know if cheerleading is a sport, but I am a sport. I’ve even been called a good sport.


23 posted on 07/22/2010 6:42:01 PM PDT by Zack Attack
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To: NCLaw441

agree with your suggestion that women be treated as equals in sports. Instead of men and women’s basketball, for example, just have one basketball team made up of the best players, whether male or female. Same for golf, tennis, softball, baseball, football, track, soccer, etc. etc. This will completely avoid the issue of men vs. women’s sports.

that brilliant idea would virtually eliminate women from sports altogether In the vast majority of cases, women cannot compete with men in sports


24 posted on 07/22/2010 7:31:00 PM PDT by terycarl (sstrations)
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To: VanDeKoik

what about dancing?...marching?.....how about frizzbe?....anything with a physical output can be considered a sport.....this ruling is more aimed at not letting colleges use cheerleading as its Title 9 obligation....


25 posted on 07/22/2010 7:33:34 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Bad~Rodeo

Quinnipiac University is a private, coeducational university with 5,700 undergraduate and 2,000 graduate students. Consistently ranked among the best universities by U.S. News & World Report, Quinnipiac (pronounced KWIN-uh-pe-ack) offers 52 undergraduate majors and 20 graduate programs plus the JD program.

Located next to the picturesque Sleeping Giant Mountain in Hamden, Conn., 90 minutes from New York City


26 posted on 07/22/2010 7:35:04 PM PDT by namvolunteer (I am a Catholic)
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To: allmendream

“It takes a great deal of athleticism...”

So does wrestling, but I am not going to call it a sport!


27 posted on 07/22/2010 7:48:14 PM PDT by ExTxMarine (Hey Congress: Go Conservative or Go home!)
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To: terycarl

You said: that brilliant idea would virtually eliminate women from sports altogether In the vast majority of cases, women cannot compete with men in sports
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You are probably correct of course (except in some areas like gymnastics and maybe figure skating), but women generally refuse to admit it. I don’t think women’s sports should really be eliminated. I only say that to make the point that the genders are NOT equal, and Title IX is an attempt to make equal that which cannot be made equal.


28 posted on 07/24/2010 12:45:54 PM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: NCLaw441

You are probably correct of course (except in some areas like gymnastics and maybe figure skating), but women generally refuse to admit it. I don’t think women’s sports should really be eliminated. I only say that to make the point that the genders are NOT equal, and Title IX is an attempt to make equal that which cannot be made equal.

another government attempt at redistributing that which cannot be redistributed.Now they are going to try to “redistribute income”.....how can they redistribute something which was not distributed, but earned......they would never say redistribute earnings!!!!!!


29 posted on 07/24/2010 8:56:56 PM PDT by terycarl (sstrations)
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