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Man sentenced for bigamy in Pocatello
Rexburg Standard-Journal/AP ^ | July 27, 2010

Posted on 07/28/2010 9:53:22 AM PDT by Colofornian

POCATELLO (AP) - An Idaho state judge has sentenced a convicted bigamist to up to three years in prison and set a restitution hearing for late August.

Christopher Cameron was sentenced Monday by 6th District Judge Robert Naftz, who gave him credit for the nine months he has spent in jail. Cameron pleaded guilty to felony bigamy in April.

Tonya Gifford Kunz, a former Pocatello woman who was married to Cameron for five weeks before filing for an annulment in February 2009, told authorities that he lied to her about his income, assets, health and last name and left her with a huge amount of debt.

Cameron married another woman, who lives in Utah, in 2007. The Idaho State Journal reports he left her shortly before their first anniversary and she is still trying to divorce him.

The judge cited a criminal hearing going back three decades, before imposing the sentence.

"I think you're a flimflam man," Naftz said. "You take advantage of situations and people."

But Cameron's attorney, Randall Schulthies, said that while Cameron's record is extensive, he only had one felony charge against him and most of the other cases against him were either reduced or dismissed.

"This is not the crime of the century," Schulthies said.

Both women said they met Cameron on a Mormon dating website. Gifford Kunz said the sham marriage deeply affected her and her family.

"Cameron is a predator who takes advantage of single mothers," she said. "The first opportunity he has, he will do it again."

Bonnie Cameron of Ogden, Utah, said she would have liked to see Cameron get the maximum sentence of three years fixed in prison...

(Excerpt) Read more at rexburgstandardjournal.com ...


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: bigamy; flimflamman; inman; lds; monomania; mormon

1 posted on 07/28/2010 9:53:26 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: All

More victims of flim flam men.


2 posted on 07/28/2010 9:57:34 AM PDT by Colofornian (If we could "CTR" we wouldn't need a Savior. [See 1 Corinthians 1:30])
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To: Colofornian
Both women said they met Cameron on a Mormon dating website

I'll have to warn my cat about him!

3 posted on 07/28/2010 9:58:21 AM PDT by T Minus Four ("All religion ever made of me was a sinner with a rock tied to my feet" - FFH)
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To: Colofornian

More than a peccadillo for the fellow in Pocatello...


4 posted on 07/28/2010 9:59:27 AM PDT by mikrofon (Check the bordello)
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To: Colofornian
How can bigamy possibly be a crime? Muslims and Mormons of a certain view have it as part of their religion. Orthodox Jews cling to the biblical practice in remote locales (and not so remote), etc. etc.

The lying about having other wives to the new one is certainly illegal, and I guess that qualifies it as "felony" bigamy. But here in Maine, we have many Somalis with 4 wives (at a time) and I certainly have never heard of any prosecution because of it.

In the 21st century United States of America, if 25 women want to live as wives with their "patriarch," their Persian cat(s) or other animals, or anything or anyone else, who's to stop them? Wouldn't be at all surprised if Polyandry raises its fuzzy head ... and who's to stop that? The Pope? Jay Leno? Barack Obama?

5 posted on 07/28/2010 10:02:50 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Think about this. The Party of Constitutional Restoration. Program, Plan, Leaders, Courage.)
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To: Kenny Bunk
Orthodox Jews cling to the biblical practice in remote locales (and not so remote), etc. etc.

I have never heard of this!

6 posted on 07/28/2010 10:06:43 AM PDT by T Minus Four ("All religion ever made of me was a sinner with a rock tied to my feet" - FFH)
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To: Kenny Bunk
How can bigamy possibly be a crime?

It's spelled D-E-C-E-I-T.

Authorities are much more likely to make a case of bigamy if the second "spouse" was victimized in not knowing about the first.

7 posted on 07/28/2010 10:07:30 AM PDT by Colofornian (If we could "CTR" we wouldn't need a Savior. [See 1 Corinthians 1:30])
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To: Kenny Bunk

Sayyyy, wasn’t Barak Obama already married when he married Stanley Ann Dunham?


8 posted on 07/28/2010 10:08:09 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 550 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Kenny Bunk
we have many Somalis with 4 wives (at a time) and I certainly have never heard of any prosecution because of it

You know the answer.

The Mormon guy is the wrong color. Somalis be the right color...

L.A. gangbangers have multiple wives and kids.

No arrests them. On the contrary, they get lotsa taxpayer $$ and other goodies.

Polygamy: just another crime only a white man can commit.

9 posted on 07/28/2010 10:08:24 AM PDT by Regulator (Watch Out!! The Americans are On the March!! America Forever, Mexico Never!)
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To: Kenny Bunk
Orthodox Jews cling to the biblical practice in remote locales (and not so remote), etc. etc.

Really? Where is this happening and what Biblical practice?

10 posted on 07/28/2010 10:09:25 AM PDT by svcw (Real faith is always increased by opposition, false confidence is damaged & discouraged by it)
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To: Kenny Bunk

Most of these bigamy cases are accidents or laziness in filing for a prompt divorce. This guy is a scam artist and should be punished. If all parties are cool with it, who cares?


11 posted on 07/28/2010 10:13:08 AM PDT by goseminoles
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To: svcw
Let's not go through this again, OK?

Polygamy was standard OT practice. Read the Book. Today, it is still practiced by SOME Middle Eastern Jews, particularly those from Yemen, Iran, Iraq, and by other Jewish groups. By 1000 CE, the practice was very much on the wane among European Jewry.

12 posted on 07/28/2010 10:24:05 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Think about this. The Party of Constitutional Restoration. Program, Plan, Leaders, Courage.)
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To: Colofornian

Gee, I can barely live with one wife. What sort of insane person would want two wives?


13 posted on 07/28/2010 10:24:21 AM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Obama makes me miss Jimmah Cahtah!)
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To: Colofornian

Too bad we are not a Muslim nation or else he could have just said “I divorce thee” three times and move on to the next one.


14 posted on 07/28/2010 10:30:14 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Political correctness in America today is a Rip Van Winkle acid trip.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

Ok we wont. It was not a standard practice.
I have never heard of Jews who practice polygamy today.


15 posted on 07/28/2010 10:30:54 AM PDT by svcw (Real faith is always increased by opposition, false confidence is damaged & discouraged by it)
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To: Kenny Bunk; svcw
Polygamy was standard OT practice.

No, it wasn't. Genesis 2 talked about 2-becoming-1. Jesus later said (Matthew 19) that this was taught "from the beginning.")

#1 He must not take many wives, or his heart will be led astray. (Deut. 17:17)

#2 Some of those who had more than one wife did so serially (Moses)

#3 Concubines & servant girls were never deemend as "wives" except by those who had no authority to deem them so (like Abram's wife, Sarai; and Jacob's clan)

(What part of "Not" do you have trouble interpreting?)

16 posted on 07/28/2010 10:35:15 AM PDT by Colofornian (If we could "CTR" we wouldn't need a Savior. [See 1 Corinthians 1:30])
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To: Regulator

See post #7. Open-ended relationships vs. deceit.


17 posted on 07/28/2010 10:36:36 AM PDT by Colofornian (If we could "CTR" we wouldn't need a Savior. [See 1 Corinthians 1:30])
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To: Colofornian
#1 He must not take many wives, or his heart will be led astray. (Deut. 17:17)

Define "many". Why didn't God say "You shall have only one wife at a time."?

18 posted on 07/28/2010 10:39:32 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Lurker; Kenny Bunk
Define "many". Why didn't God say "You shall have only one wife at a time."?

He did. I didn't only cite Dt. 17:17, but Gen. 2. Here's the specific verse in Gen. 2 (v. 24):

For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.

#1..."wife" -- not "wives"
#2...For those who think God had some sort of "polygamy formula" in the OT, they have to deal with Gen. 2:24 and Matt. 19:6 -- where both say (Jesus in Matt. 19:6) 2-become-1 flesh. Why again is that relevant? Because if you think a man becomes single "flesh" simultaneously with 2 or more women, then that means you think two "sister wives" also become "one flesh." And once you go there, on what grounds do you claim God doesn't "ordain" lesbian "marriages"?

19 posted on 07/28/2010 10:48:28 AM PDT by Colofornian (If we could "CTR" we wouldn't need a Savior. [See 1 Corinthians 1:30])
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To: goseminoles

You should. Have any idea of the % of Mormon polygamists whose 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th wives and children are on welfare? WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THEM, and the division of a father’s estate is never enough to take care of all of the wives and kids, so guess who foots the bill? There is plenty of evidence from around the world that children of polygamous marriages do not do as well financially or emotionally as those from one man-one woman families.


20 posted on 07/28/2010 11:53:28 AM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Amberdawn

I get it. When kids are involved, that change the equation. I don’t think we are talking about many people here in comparison to single parent homes in general. In fact, they are probably better off.


21 posted on 07/28/2010 12:07:02 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: goseminoles
If all parties are cool with it, who cares?

He needs to get his head examined. One wife at a time is more than enough.

22 posted on 07/28/2010 12:10:32 PM PDT by Retired COB (Still mad about Campaign Finance Reform)
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To: Retired COB

LOL!!! I agree. I’m 39. Divorced. And it would take a special woman to get me to do that again. 4 or 5 heiffers breathing down my neck? Puleese!! NO offense ladies but you wouldn’t want 5 husbands either..


23 posted on 07/28/2010 12:18:25 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: Colofornian
No, it wasn't. Genesis 2 talked about 2-becoming-1.

The Bible does tell us that if our brother dies to take his wife and marry her. It does not differentiate between a single man or one who is already married.

Genesis 38:8 And Judah said to Onan, Go in to your brother's wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to your brother.

24 posted on 07/28/2010 12:22:04 PM PDT by Retired COB (Still mad about Campaign Finance Reform)
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To: Colofornian
An Idaho state judge has sentenced a convicted bigamist to up to three years in prison and set a restitution hearing for late August.

I just HATE it when a judge sentences an UNCONVICTED fellow to prison!

25 posted on 07/28/2010 12:22:32 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian
Both women said they met Cameron on a Mormon dating website. Gifford Kunz said the sham marriage deeply affected her and her family.

What is your church doing to help the male to stay true?
 




prophet kimball"All of this should be conveyed without having priesthood leaders focus upon intimate matters which are a part of husband and wife relationships. Skillful interviewing and counseling can occur without discussion of clinical details by placing firm responsibility on individual members of the Church to put their lives in order before exercising the privilege of entering a house of the Lord. The First Presidency has interpreted oral sex as constituting an unnatural, impure, or unholy practice. If a person is engaged in a practice which troubles him enough to ask about it, he should discontinue it."
- Official Declaration of the First Presidency of the Church, January 5th, 1982


spencer kimball"Prophets anciently and today condemn masturbation. It induces feelings of guilt and shame. It is detrimental to spirituality. It indicates slavery to the flesh, not that mastery of it and the growth toward godhood which is the object of our mortal life. Our modern prophet has indicated that no young man should be called on a mission who is not free from this practice. What is more, it too often leads to grievous sin, even to that sin against nature, homosexuality. For, done in private, it evolves often into mutual masturbation-practiced with another person of the same sex and thence into total homosexuality...."
- Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, Pages 77-79, 81-82

"Among the most common sexual sins our young people commit are necking and petting. Not only do these improper relations often lead to fornication, [unwed] pregnancy, and abortions - all ugly sins - but in and of themselves they are pernicious evils, and it is often difficult for youth to distinguish where one ends and another begins. They awaken lust and stir evil thoughts and sex desires. They are but parts of the whole family of related sins and indiscretions. Almost like twins, 'petting' and fornication are alike."
- Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, page 65


spencer kimball"Also far-reaching is the effect of the loss of chastity. Once given or taken or stolen it can never be regained. Even in a forced contact such as rape or incest, the injured one is greatly outraged. If she has not cooperated and contributed to the foul deed, she is of course in a more favorable position. There is no condemnation where there is no voluntary participation. It is better to die in defending one's virtue than to live having lost it without a struggle."
-
Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, page 196


"And Cain said unto the Lord, My punishment is greater than I can bear. Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth." (Genesis 4:9-14.) That was true of murder. It is also true of illicit sex, which, of course, includes all petting, fornication, adultery, homosexual acts, and all other perversions. The Lord may say to offenders, as He did to Cain, "What hast thou done?" The children thus conceived make damning charges against you; the companions who have been frustrated and violated condemn you; the body that has been defiled cries out against you; the spirit which has been dwarfed convicts you. You will have difficulty throughout the ages in totally forgiving yourself."
-Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, "Love Versus Lust", BYU Speech January 5, 1965. Often-used quote still used today in LDS seminary classes.


kimball"I do not find in the Bible the modern terms "petting" nor "homosexuality," yet I found numerous scriptures which forbade such acts under by whatever names they might be called. I could not find the term "homosexuality," but I did find numerous places where the Lord condemned such a practice with such vigor that even the death penalty was assessed."
- Apostle Spencer W. Kimball, "Love Versus Lust", BYU Speech January 5, 1965


"If adultery or fornication justified the death penalty in the old days, and still in Christ's day, is the sin any less today because the laws of the land do not assess the death penalty for it? Is the act less grievous? There must be a washing, a purging, a changing of attitudes, a correcting of appraisals, a strengthening toward self-mastery. There must be many prayers, and volumes of tears. There must be an inner conviction giving to the sin its full diabolical weight. There must be increased devotion and much thought and study. And this takes energy and time and often is accompanied with sore embarrassment, heavy deprivations and deep trials, even if indeed one is not excommunicated from the Church, losing all spiritual blessings."
-Prophet Spencer W. Kimball, The Miracle of Forgiveness, Page 155


"How like the mistletoe is immorality. The killer plant starts with a sticky sweet berry. Little indiscretions are the berries -- indiscretions like sex thoughts sex discussions, passionate kissing, pornography. The leaves and little twigs are masturbation and necking and such, growing with every exercise. The full-grown plant is petting and sex looseness. It confounds, frustrates, and destroys like the parasite if it is not cut out and destroyed, for, in time it robs the tree, bleeds its life, and leaves it barren and dry; and, strangely enough, the parasite dies with its host."
- Apostle Spencer W. Kimball, General Conference Address, April 1, 1967.








26 posted on 07/28/2010 12:24:44 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kenny Bunk
Wouldn't be at all surprised if Polyandry raises its fuzzy head ... and who's to stop that?
 The Pope? Jay Leno? Barack Obama?




"Inasmuch as laws have been enacted by Congress forbidding plural marriage...
I hereby declare my intention to submit to those laws..."

~ Wilford Woodruff, 4th LDS President



27 posted on 07/28/2010 12:27:16 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kenny Bunk
Orthodox Jews cling to the biblical practice in remote locales...

1. Orthodox Jews do not have a BIBLE; but the Torah...
2. While it WAS 'practiced'; it was NEVER encouraged, but rather the opposite.

28 posted on 07/28/2010 12:29:08 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Regulator
On the contrary, they get lotsa taxpayer $$ and other goodies.

And we TAXPAYERS are the FOOLS!!

29 posted on 07/28/2010 12:30:29 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel
 
What sort of insane person would want two wives?

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30 posted on 07/28/2010 12:32:12 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel
 
What sort of insane person would want two wives?
 
 

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31 posted on 07/28/2010 12:33:12 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: null and void

That would confuse the citizenship debate - if he was already married, his marriage in the us is not legal, and hence zero is a bastard son of an American girl, which...

Oh, heck. I can’t keep track.


32 posted on 07/28/2010 12:34:26 PM PDT by patton (Obama has replaced "Res Publica" with "Quod licet Jovi non licet bovi.")
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To: Colofornian

How much jail time did Barack Obama’s daddy ever serve for his bigamy?


33 posted on 07/28/2010 12:34:56 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
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To: Amberdawn
WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THEM,

It was never 'For the Chillrun', but, 'For the Voters!'

34 posted on 07/28/2010 12:36:20 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Retired COB

And that was for a SPECIAL instance.


35 posted on 07/28/2010 12:38:02 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian

I hear the penalty for bigamy is two mothers-in-law!


36 posted on 07/28/2010 1:01:41 PM PDT by folkquest
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To: goseminoles

IMO, a single parent family is better than a polygamous one. Mormons, muslims and a tribe from Vietnam/Laos who were sttled here are in part polygamous. The ONLY way these people can afford to do this is through taxpayers shelling out for them.


37 posted on 07/28/2010 2:19:49 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: folkquest

Funny


38 posted on 07/28/2010 2:28:04 PM PDT by svcw (Real faith is always increased by opposition, false confidence is damaged & discouraged by it)
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To: Elsie
The fact that were two Fannies on Joe's list is troubling.

Most frontier homes had "One-Fanny Kitchens."

39 posted on 07/28/2010 2:54:33 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Think about this. The Party of Constitutional Restoration. Program, Plan, Leaders, Courage.)
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To: Amberdawn

I’d like to see stats. Polygamists are so rare that I don’t don’t think there is a enough of a fiscal impact to matter. Millions of welfare recipients should be our concern.I’m more concerned with child welfare than $ as it related to failed polygamist’s child support.
Crack heads are a much more concern. At least for me. I’m not losing sleep over gang bangers and concensual sharing of adults engaging in concensual(sp?) behavior.


40 posted on 07/28/2010 3:04:01 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: Amberdawn
The ONLY way these people can afford to do this is through taxpayers shelling out for them.

When are we TAXPAYERS going to get FEDS UP with the GOVERNMENT taking OUR money and GIVING it to others?

41 posted on 07/28/2010 4:06:04 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Amberdawn
The ONLY way these people can afford to do this is through taxpayers shelling out for them.

When are we TAXPAYERS going to get FED UP with the GOVERNMENT taking OUR money and GIVING it to others?

42 posted on 07/28/2010 4:06:09 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Feds Up!?

It won’t matter; for some stupid JUDGE will rule that whatEVER we do would INTERFER with FEDERAL LAW!

I’m am about ready to INTERFER with a BUNCH of things!

(Put THIS in my DOSSIER!)


43 posted on 07/28/2010 4:09:43 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: svcw

More narrowly, Yemenite Jews didn’t follow the Jewish ban on polygamy...also polygamy is permitted among non-Ashkenazi Jews and Ashkenazi Jews who obtain special permission of 100 rabbis, but that’s rare because most local jurisdictions ban polygamy...magritte


44 posted on 07/28/2010 4:15:28 PM PDT by magritte ("There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
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To: magritte

Interesting. 100 Rabbis. I don’t think anyone could get 100 people to agree in unison on anything. Thanks for the info.


45 posted on 07/28/2010 4:25:26 PM PDT by svcw (Real faith is always increased by opposition, false confidence is damaged & discouraged by it)
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To: Elsie

I can only think of mass resistance to paying taxes period. If enough people join in, they can’t put us all in jail.


46 posted on 07/28/2010 4:33:24 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: goseminoles

Polygamy isn’t good for children or the taxpayer. I realize the number of poly.’s is small, but it is growing, with the Hmong and other refugees, mormon sects, some muslims, etc. If and when marriage is routinely redefined, I’m betting we’ll see even more.


47 posted on 07/28/2010 4:41:52 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Elsie

Have you noticed that Smith in the mormonmomma.com one looks an awfully lot like Warren Jeffs?


48 posted on 07/29/2010 8:33:11 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Rush "They hate me because I am the most prominent, effective and unrelenting voice of conservatism")
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