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To: Red Steel
So what ... I don't get your point.

Do you think organized crime does not buy ATMs to try to figure out how to exploit them?

Do you think corrupt political hacks don't have voting machines to figure out how to exploit them?

Who gives a rip HOW ... the point is that he proved it COULD BE DONE.

Lets put is a different way ... if your account was cleaned out by a criminal who learned how to exploit it ... would you be OK if he had just done it by accident? That seems to be what you are alluding.

Did you know that modern ballistics math was invented by Napoleon's army firing cannon with precise powder and ball weights at different angles? Yes, we have theoretical mathematicians with formulas who can figure it out without firing a single shot now ... but the formulas had to match the statistical data that was acquired. Lots of stuff is “discovered” with brute force methods, then refined into elegant theories later. Your discounting of this ... for any reason ... is incomprehensible. Be glad that someone out there like Barnaby Jack is protecting your interests.

14 posted on 08/01/2010 2:39:11 PM PDT by RainMan
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To: RainMan
So what ... I don't get your point.

Do you think organized crime does not buy ATMs to try to figure out how to exploit them?

The point and only point is that it was not "easy" to do unless you get hold of the source codes and the hardware (ATMs) to recreate the environment to exploit any possible vulnerabilities or uncover bugs in the system. Even that, it took 2 years of hacking according to the article. It's the same way that all software gets fixed. Debuggers have to recreate the circumstances, by understanding the problems, that created the holes by bugs and/or vulnerabilities so they can plug the holes. You read too much into my post.

16 posted on 08/01/2010 3:01:53 PM PDT by Red Steel
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