Skip to comments.Death of teen on bike shows risks of expanded use of Tasers
Posted on 08/01/2010 5:41:28 PM PDT by driftdiver
Late one night in October, a 17-year-old on a bike was chased by a police officer in a cruiser. When the boy refused to stop, the officer aimed his Taser out the driver's window and fired. The boy fell off the bike and the cruiser ran over him, killing him.
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Dead kid is later found to have a silver gun. Cop gets off.
Some police officers are too stupid to be considered human. This jamoke is one of them.
Crime: Pissing off Officer Judge J. N. Executioner.
Badge-lappers on deck in 3... 2... 1...
He didn’t stop when the cop told him too, so I guess he deserved to die. right? I mean thats what many people on FR say.
“Some police officers are too stupid to be considered human. This jamoke is one of them.”
Jack booted thugs love their tasers.
Makes them feel like gods, or Darth Vader.
The Judge Dredd wannabes.
Not only the tazer but planting evidence.
Cops. Some of them are really stupid.
Tasers are an intermediate weapon on the use of force continuum. You don’t discharge one unless immediate harm is plausible to the officer or someone else. This officer was in the wrong. Whether or not they planted a weapon, I’m not sure. That cop screwed up.
THX 1138 alert!
That said, the taser is a great weapon. But I hate the title of this article. Its slanted. Who’s “expanding” the use of tasers?
The cop went to his car and got a silver object. He crawled under the car where the dead kid was with the silver object. The kid was later found with an illegal silver object.
Anyone else would have been convicted with this video tape.
Yep. Planting stuff is the worst form of police deviance.
Isn’t anyone in authority a little worried that if this continues, people will evade/flee/shoot first at police because they simply can’t be trusted?
What if that becomes a valid defense?
Interesting, that the gun was wiped clean. How did the kid put it in his pocket? Maybe he was a neatness freak?
Failure of the public trust is a very bad road to go down. Blacks have felt this way for years.
I don’t normally assume the cop is at fault, but this, even without the “silver item” possibility, signifies an absolute moron of a cop.
Good post. I agree.
That's pretty much the logic of the Freeper Law and Order---Cops Can Do No Wrong Crowd.
“Cops. Some of them are really stupid.”
Yes, but they all have guns.
Seems a bit of an understatement for manslaughter.
Some people shouldn’t be cops.....
You are absolutely right. And what the Police and the Law and Order Conservatives fail to see is the very system they are cheering on is the very system that is pushing the country towards that fork in the road. One day the country is going to wake up and few if any of its citizens will trust the police.
It will be a sad day but its one we are fast approaching and just like the liberals who stick their head in the sand to avoid certain issues. The conservatives are guilty of sticking their head in the sand and avoiding this 8000 pound neon blue in the room.
Ding-ding. We have a winner!
The safest answer I could come up with....
At the request of the St. Petersburg Times, nationally known use-of-force expert Dave Klinger, who is a retired Los Angeles police officer and now a senior research scientist at the Police Foundation in Washington, D.C., reviewed documents and videos related to the case.
It didn’t make sense to fire a Taser at Victor on the bike, said Klinger, because of the likelihood he would get hurt. Furthermore, he said, Victor was not a suspect in a serious crime.
“You don’t Taser people in circumstances that increase the likelihood of injury unless they’re a suspect for something like rape or murder,” said Klinger.
I usually back the cops but this case stinks to high heaven!
From the article it would appear that the officer had NO reason to believe the kid was armed — let alone dangerous.
Sounds like grounds for a wrongful death suit.
Unfortunately, a lawsuit won’t bring this kid back.
I don’t know what a law and order conservative is, but when society reaches a point when citizens won’t answer their doors for police, pull over for police, or are scared of who we should trust, we are heading down somewhere we don’t want to go.
“Interesting, that the gun was wiped clean. How did the kid put it in his pocket? Maybe he was a neatness freak?”
Source? I’m still looking for “the rest of the story”.
Very suspicious. God sees all.
The cop should have been polygraph.
You neanderthal! You insensitive twit!
You actually want to know the circumstances and facts before running off at the mouth in neurotic indignation?
Dude, that cop tasered a kid on a bike.
And then ran him over with a cop car.
And then planted a gun on his dead body.
And then got his cop buddies to look the other way.
And then found a judge to let him literally get away with murder.
Those are the only “circumstances and facts” one needs to know to form an opinion in this matter.
Badge = license to kill.
Or you could watch the video and listen to the commentary. But no its more fun to run off half cocked.
“You actually want to know the circumstances and facts before running off at the mouth in neurotic indignation? “
So is it ok for us to be indignant at the tazoring and the running over part? Why exactly did the cop who did the running over climb under the car with a silver object and then come out without the silver object?
What part of the police manual says he should do that?
Thanks DD. On that note, I’m going to watch Bobby Bowden do a cameo on “Glades” at 10:00. Hold the fort ;o)
You made five wild incendiary statementements without a scintilla of evidence or references of any kind. If you know something the rest of us don't, by all means, inform and educate us.
Locally, last week a kid in a stolen car was shot and killed after running into numerous cars, a house, a long chase through an urban area, collided with police cars and was in the process of attempting to run over the police when he was shot and killed.
The family sounded pretty much like the people on this thread -- hysterical -- demonstrations, gnashing of teeth, demands for hearings and firing and demonstrations, the whole usual enchilada.
The cop changed his story on why the pursuit began months later after confronted with evidence to the contrary.
Just amazes me that people will pick out the smallest item to discredit someone while ignoring the 800lb gorilla.
Did the cop changes his written account months later and did it involve a silver flashy item.
Had he stopped and events continued as reported, I would be there alongside you --- minus the anger management thing.
“The family sounded pretty much like the people on this thread — hysterical — demonstrations, gnashing of teeth, demands for hearings and firing and demonstrations, the whole usual enchilada.”
What part of tazering a kid riding a bike from a moving vehicle and then running the kid over don’t you understand?
What part of going to his car, getting a silver object, and then crawling under the car and coming out without the silver object don’t you understand?
The kid didn’t have a record. This wasn’t East St. Louis or Detroit. I’d say demonstrations and charges of negligent homocide, planting evidence, lying on his report are all in order.
In the 70s my brother in law was a cop in Amarillo. One day he pulled out a gun wrapped in plastic and explained it was a throw down gun, and said all the cops carried one.
“Had he stopped and events continued as reported, I would be there alongside you -— minus the anger management thing.”
Last I heard Judge Dread was only a movie. How much effort does it take to realize the death penalty requires a jury verdict?
“Or you could watch the video and listen to the commentary. But no its more fun to run off half cocked.”
My cock is just fine, thank you very much, and the video and commentary don’t say diddly squat.
The commentary pointed out he planted evidence and got away with it despite being on video. yea I can imagine that would piss a boot licker off.
Pensacola is a small town. The cop was probably bored and trying to pull the kid over for running a stop sign on his bike.
sorry, but I refuse to get in a battle of wits with angry children.
Have a nice evening.
“Ard would later say that he tried to stop Victor because he had seen him at a construction site and thought he may have stolen something. But witness Victor Stallworth said he saw Victor ride his bicycle past the construction site without stopping. Months later, Ard gave investigators a different reason for stopping Victor: He didn’t have a light on his bike only two reflectors.”
Yep the kid died because he didn’t have a light on his bike. Good thing he got this dangerous kid off the street. Coulda been a tragedy.
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