Posted on 08/02/2010 7:07:29 PM PDT by JoeProBono
Amazingly, any more it seems I have more and more freedoms here in China, as opposed to the US. The world is reversing, and the Leftists love it, while the “head in the sand ‘THE USA IS ALWAYS RIGHT!’” right wingers are oblivious.
(I know, betel nut is a bit off topic)
But if we could de-couple a conversation on overseas laws pertaining to Americans from the morally repugnant issue of pedophelia, it might be good information to share.
FReepers are a pretty worldly bunch. Many could probably benefit from such a discussion...
Great, he is a certified sicko. Best to ship him back to Thailand and let the Government there deal with him. He broke their laws where they have jurisdiction, and I can guarantee that a Thai jail is a LOT worse than anything he’ll experience in the US...
Tell me about it... I’ve been dealing with moron Birthers tonight. If this is the best we got, we are scrrrrrrrrrreeeewwwwwwed!!
Game over.... Maybe I should visit China... LOL
Don’t kid yourself.
You have no rights to political free speech, in any communist country. None.
That’s the one area, American freedoms remain virtually inviolate. And it’s a pretty basic difference.
Simple. You should shun the morons and deal with the smart ones.
Better example would be some sort of a musical instrument. Now imagine that musical instrument is illegal, and part of an international crime-in-process. Use it, go to jail.
I fully agree. The issue should not be what is morally repugnant or not, but the extent of Uncle Sam’s arm in dealing with actions legal in the jurisdiction where that action happened.
He already served one year there.
I think it is reasonable to say that if you get into serious trouble while traveling overseas, there may be repercussions back home as well.
If you're outside U.S. territory and something bad happens, the Marines come get you.
“You’re no longer a citizen, but a subject...”
Correct.
Worse, the Kingly US gooberment claims to have extended authority/sovereighty into the territory of other nations.
“he told authorities he often paid Thai children the equivalent of $5 for two hours of sexual contact.”
*OFTEN* - Maybe he deserved a firing squad. The two trials and two trips to jail are screwed up.
I guess Thailand does not have the money for longer jail sentences. Neither do we, because of 40 to 50% of federal prisoners are illegals, but that is another story.
That why they can charge you income tax even if you make money in a foreign country...
You are owned by the government for better of for worse and you better get used to it.
Doesn’t foreign income tax law depend on residency?
If you’ve actually plopped yourself in some foreign country semi-permanently - well and truly going native, I think it’s not the same, as a (regrettable example) stint teaching English.
Not because of the cultural difference in those approaches, but because one is little different from a long vacation.
We really need a stand-alone topic on some of this stuff.
Come on over and learn differently. I'm not kidding myself, I live here with "the ChiComs" for 6-7 months each year. You'll find regular protests against the Government all the time. There's basically 3 rules to follow:
1. You must be a Chinese citizen. Be a foreigner and protest the Government is illegal, and you'll get fined around ¥15,000 RMB (about $2200), and spend 10 days in a Chinese jail.
2. You must apply for a license for your protest. They're about ¥500 (about $73) for a 4 hour license. You'll be given a choice of locations (In Shanghai, that's usually on Nanjing Dong Lu, the main pedestrian/shopping street right off of People's Square).
3. Stick to the terms of the license, which dictates when and where. Don't go outside the lines.
Additionally, you can read the regular editorials critical of the local and national Governments, written in both English and Mandarin.
In the US, we do the same thing, but with "Free Speech Zones" kept blocks away from people or the event being protested. You're limited in what, where, and how long you get to protest.
Don't kid yourself, China's communist in name only anymore, and the US is actually more communist than China.
I realize it is beneficial for your business interests to say things which are not adversarial about those, from whom you earn your pay.
Two words though:
Falun Gong.
Nope. If you live outside the US for 336+ days of the year (less than 30 days in the US), then you MAY qualify for a tax credit based upon foreign taxes paid. But you're still liable for all US taxes owed (and at the rate as if you had earned every single dollar inside the US).
You earn a penny anywhere in the world, regardless of how much time you spend in the US (or even if you spend ANY time in the US), and the IRS gets to claim its share of that money.
We're now subjects, not citizens...
Two words back:
Fundamentalist Mormons.
Well that’s interesting.
Until now, American living standards (and pay scales) have dwarfed those elsewhere. So foreign pay scales, would translate to near poverty wages stateside.
With that changing, this is probably an increasingly significant issue.
Heavens no.
Not Mormons. :)
What’s wrong with Mormons? Haven’t seen any persecution of Mormons going on. Have you?
You’re not mixing up the Mormon religion, with that cult with the polygamy thing? Pretending that was somehow, religious persecution?
I mean come on. Even tree hugging is a religion in America.
Please. Kowtow all you want, but America does not persecute (any) religion.
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