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Parents won’t get Nazi-named kids back
thechronicleherald.ca ^ | 8-6-10 | BETH DEFALCO

Posted on 08/06/2010 12:38:46 PM PDT by Justaham

A New Jersey couple who gave their children Nazi-inspired names should not regain custody of them, a state appeals court ruled Thursday, citing the parents’ own disabilities and the risk of serious injury to their children.

The state removed Heath and Deborah Campbell’s three small children from their home in January 2009.

A month earlier, the family drew attention when a supermarket refused to decorate a birthday cake for their son, Adolf Hitler Campbell. He and siblings JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell and Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie Campbell have been in foster care.

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TOPICS: Local News; Society
KEYWORDS: childprotection; cpa; hitler; hussein; nazism; parentalrights
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1 posted on 08/06/2010 12:38:47 PM PDT by Justaham
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To: Justaham

Sooo,
When very stupid Americans name their offspring after Obammy should the govt. take them away cause he is such a piss poor marxist p.o.s.?


2 posted on 08/06/2010 12:41:06 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Ya unAmerican p.o.s.)
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To: Justaham

Court should first allow the family to offer a plan for other relatives to take the children in before they take the children away.


3 posted on 08/06/2010 12:41:06 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Justaham

But O.J. Simpson was allowed to keep his after killing their mom.


4 posted on 08/06/2010 12:42:28 PM PDT by historyrepeatz
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To: historyrepeatz

O.J. ain’t white.


5 posted on 08/06/2010 12:43:27 PM PDT by gundog (Why is it that useful idiots remain idiots long after they've exhausted their usefulness?)
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To: Joe Boucher
"Sooo, When very stupid Americans name their offspring after Obammy should the govt. take them away cause he is such a piss poor marxist p.o.s.?"

I suspect most of the kids named "Barak" will never see their father anyways.

6 posted on 08/06/2010 12:44:11 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Justaham
"their son, Adolf Hitler Campbell. He and siblings JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell and Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie Campbell have been in foster care."

No matter how you feel about this case, you have to have a heart for these kids. Who would want to go through life with those names???
7 posted on 08/06/2010 12:46:12 PM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Justaham

From what I can see, the parents are idiots but have committed no crime.


8 posted on 08/06/2010 12:47:38 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Justaham

And yet when teenaged children try to seek protection from their Islamist parents, they are sent back to them.


9 posted on 08/06/2010 12:50:57 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

I suspect most of the kids named “Barak” will never see their father anyways.

Bingo


10 posted on 08/06/2010 12:51:51 PM PDT by Paisan
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To: a fool in paradise

Excellent point. Another example of the “reverse parallel universe” we’re now living in.


11 posted on 08/06/2010 12:52:37 PM PDT by historyrepeatz
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To: Justaham

If the gubment “rescued” the children of all the haters in this country, Howard Dean would be childless too.


12 posted on 08/06/2010 12:53:20 PM PDT by badgerlandjim (Hillary Clinton is to politics as Helen Thomas is to beauty.)
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To: Justaham

If they were named Osama, Saddam, or Achmed no one would even question it.


13 posted on 08/06/2010 12:54:58 PM PDT by donhunt (Where does this totalitarian ashwipe get off telling me I can't chose for myself?)
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To: donhunt

Or after that serial killer and pedophile ‘Mohammad’.


15 posted on 08/06/2010 1:00:33 PM PDT by agere_contra (...what if we won't eat the dog food?)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Good point Joe.


16 posted on 08/06/2010 1:01:41 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Ya unAmerican p.o.s.)
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To: Justaham

This case sounds like the Mexican president from the 1930s who is reputed to have named his sons Lenin, Stalin, and Satan.

Names like that make you stand out from the crowd.


17 posted on 08/06/2010 1:01:47 PM PDT by Pelham (Deport illegals now.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Like I said, I fail to see where the crime was committed.


18 posted on 08/06/2010 1:02:52 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Lurking Libertarian
In Gaza all the children are taught to hate Jews and to become shaheed (martyrs).

I hope the Left are going to protect them in the same way. Perhaps by not giving their parents so much money.

19 posted on 08/06/2010 1:03:36 PM PDT by agere_contra (...what if we won't eat the dog food?)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Wow, the dude is sick, maybe the Justice department should treat him the same way nazi’s treated others to give this guy his hearts disire. What a sicko.


20 posted on 08/06/2010 1:05:22 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: cripplecreek

According to the article, the parents are both unemployed and have various disabilities. There are complaints on this guy from neighbors, and his ex-wife charged him with abuse years ago. The names weren’t mentioned in the ruling. Both of them are high school drop-outs and the guy can’t read. The mom gave a note to a neighbor saying that if she was found dead, that he did it and that she feared for the children if they were left in his care, and that he was trying to teach the son how to kill a person.


21 posted on 08/06/2010 1:06:15 PM PDT by chae (A wooden stake for Edward, a silver axe for Jacob, and then Buffy went home)
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To: Justaham

Geeez, this wouldn’t even make the press if he called them Joseph Stalin Campbell, Mao Tse Campbell, or Pol Pot Campbell. I always said if you want to sell a book, write about how to become rich, while having sex and put a swastika on the cover.


22 posted on 08/06/2010 1:08:56 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft
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To: Justaham

Adolf Hitler Campbell


23 posted on 08/06/2010 1:09:43 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: chae
the parents are both unemployed and have various disabilities.

No bearing on anything.

There are complaints on this guy from neighbors, and his ex-wife charged him with abuse years ago.

Still nothing.

The mom gave a note to a neighbor saying that if she was found dead, that he did it and that she feared for the children if they were left in his care, and that he was trying to teach the son how to kill a person.

Nothing but allegations.
24 posted on 08/06/2010 1:11:04 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: cripplecreek

It’s about providing a safe environment. When the mom says “The dad is threatening to kill me” and that she fears for the child’s safetywith him, that’s sufficient for investigation. Apparently that added to his history of abuse complaints and and the parent’s various disabilites and history of abuse themselves was sufficient for removal in addition to other things possibly not mentioned in the article.


25 posted on 08/06/2010 1:11:06 PM PDT by chae (A wooden stake for Edward, a silver axe for Jacob, and then Buffy went home)
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To: chae

Give it up Adolph.


26 posted on 08/06/2010 1:11:48 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Justaham

One side of the river Nazi names are a crime, the other side of the river they’re planning Mosques on sacred grounds where wounds still burn...Nuancing and sensitivity is so difficult.

Shouldn’t New Jersey be “ashamed” of their anti-German culture stance, Mr. Bloomberg?


27 posted on 08/06/2010 1:12:02 PM PDT by Voter62vb
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To: Justaham
I have a lot of problems with this... First off, the family court stated that the kids were NOT abused... The court that took them away stated reasons like both parents being unemployed and that the father was illiterate. In other words, the state is taking away the children because they don't like the sort of people the parents are... This is VERY dangerous. Home-schoolers? Nope, you can't keep your kids... Christians? Nope, you can't keep your kids either...

It's not anywhere near that bad... For now.

Mark

28 posted on 08/06/2010 1:13:34 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: MarkL

Exactly. The parents are indefensible but the constitution is not.


29 posted on 08/06/2010 1:15:11 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: cripplecreek

Wow, if that’s the level of your argument, I guess I win by default. Thanks.


30 posted on 08/06/2010 1:15:43 PM PDT by chae (A wooden stake for Edward, a silver axe for Jacob, and then Buffy went home)
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To: cripplecreek

“Like I said, I fail to see where the crime was committed.”

A crime hasn’t been committed. They did it because sometime in the future someone may hunt them. Sort of like some having their children taken away because they may grow up and become overweight. Oh that’s right, they are doing that in the UK.

Another freedom bites the dust.


31 posted on 08/06/2010 1:17:20 PM PDT by steveab (When was the last time someone tried to sell you a CO2 induced climate control system for your home?)
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To: Joe 6-pack
In the mid-90s a single mother took her toddler downtown every day on the commuter train. As he began to walk around I heard her calling him by name — “Clinton”.

Jeez, I thought, why not just call him "Scumbag" and get it over with...

32 posted on 08/06/2010 1:17:20 PM PDT by BenLurkin (Will must be the harder, courage the bolder, spirit must be the more, as our might lessens.)
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To: Justaham
There has to be so much more to this story...


33 posted on 08/06/2010 1:18:18 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: MarkL

It did not state that the kids were not abused, the lower court did not find sufficient evidence. There is a BIG difference between not guilty and innocent. The decision was appealed to a higher court that over-turned the lower court’s finding. Also, I’m thinking the wife’s note that if she was dead he killed her and that she feared for the kids if left in his care probably had alot to do with it as well.


34 posted on 08/06/2010 1:21:33 PM PDT by chae (A wooden stake for Edward, a silver axe for Jacob, and then Buffy went home)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
"No matter how you feel about this case, you have to have a heart for these kids. Who would want to go through life with those names???"

Someone named Barack.
35 posted on 08/06/2010 1:30:38 PM PDT by Darteaus94025
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

So you oppose fascism by displaying fascism, Mr. Kraut?


36 posted on 08/06/2010 1:38:11 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Hail Mary Full of Grace, The Lord Is With Thee...)
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To: chae

So someone should be able to remove your children from your home after you are found not guilty of abuse??????


37 posted on 08/06/2010 1:38:36 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: steveab

Back in the late 80s whole Baptist congregations lost their children due to allegations of abuse at the hands of church members.

In the end, less than 1% of those accused were ever charged with anything and only a fraction of those charges where related to any kind of abuse. Most convictions were secondary charges.

It all pretty much died down when the investigations turned to the social workers for protective services were found to be coaching small children about what to say in court.


38 posted on 08/06/2010 1:44:49 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Justaham
The judges considered a typo-riddled note signed by Deborah Campbell and given to a neighbour. In it, Campbell says that if she were found dead, her husband was to blame.

"Hes thrend to have me killed or kill me himself hes alread tried it a few times. Im afread that he might hurt my children if they are keeped in his care. He teaches my son how to kill someone at the age of 3," the letter read in part.

Deborah Campbell later acknowledged writing the letter but claimed it was all a lie.

It may not just be the naming.

39 posted on 08/06/2010 1:49:44 PM PDT by FourPeas (God Save America)
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To: ichabod1
"So you oppose fascism by displaying fascism, Mr. Kraut?"

So any German words are a display of fascism? Interesting.... My screen name is a moniker given by German soldiers to United States Marines during WWI. The Germans said that the Marines fight like the legendary Hounds of Hell from old German lore. Is that fascist?
40 posted on 08/06/2010 1:53:01 PM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

It was appealed and the higher court made a different ruling than the lower court. So the higher court took precedence.


41 posted on 08/06/2010 1:59:12 PM PDT by chae (A wooden stake for Edward, a silver axe for Jacob, and then Buffy went home)
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To: chae

How was it appealed if they were found not guilty?
So if a lower court rules that you are not guilty now you are tried again until the prosecutor gets the decision he wants?

THAT is the problem people have with family court.


42 posted on 08/06/2010 2:11:21 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

They weren’t found not guilty is the point.


43 posted on 08/06/2010 2:15:40 PM PDT by chae (A wooden stake for Edward, a silver axe for Jacob, and then Buffy went home)
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To: chae

If they were found not guilty WHY were there children removed? THAT is the point.


44 posted on 08/06/2010 2:16:51 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: chae

If they were found not guilty WHY were there children removed? THAT is the point.


45 posted on 08/06/2010 2:16:57 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

They were not found not guilty in the early court, as I read it.


46 posted on 08/06/2010 2:19:34 PM PDT by chae (A wooden stake for Edward, a silver axe for Jacob, and then Buffy went home)
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To: Justaham

I’ll bet Ferd Josef Stalin Jones and Julio Che Guevara Lopez would be OK though.


47 posted on 08/06/2010 2:23:45 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Socialism is the philosophy of failure, - W Churchill)
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To: chae

I think you are missing the point. Why was there a second trial if they were found not guilty in the first trial? The reason is that there was NO trial. These people were in family court which is a slap in the face of our judicial system. The lower court found insufficient evidence to take these children away so they sent it to another court until they got the “verdict” so to speak. The family is under gag order to not talk about the case. If there was sufficient reason to take these children then these people should be facing a TRIAL and JAIL time.
Social services can take people’s children on an accusation. Then YOU have to prove that the accusation is FALSE instead of them proving it is true. THAT is what is wrong with this picture. Family court is a JOKE.


48 posted on 08/06/2010 3:00:07 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: chae

In this country our court system does not try individuals twice for the same crime.


49 posted on 08/06/2010 3:01:07 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: historyrepeatz
Exactly. OJ who brutally murdered two people, including the mother of his children whom he had abused in the past, was given custody of the children even though the wife's parents wanted to care for them.

I do not see how the state could take these children away from the parents since there are no laws specifying that parents will lose their children if they give them certain names.

50 posted on 08/06/2010 3:05:51 PM PDT by Jane Austen (Boycott the Philadelphia Eagles!)
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