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Surprising thing about Tiger's slide? It's no longer surprising (Phil is one shot off the lead)
CBS Sports.com | 8-6-2010 | Steve Elling

Posted on 08/06/2010 7:14:55 PM PDT by Frantzie

AKRON, Ohio -- Talk about your symbolism.

Struggling yet again, Tiger Woods blew his drive on his final hole of the day deep into the gallery and the trees, punched out short of the green and found that his ball had come to rest near a large metal sewer grate.


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KEYWORDS: hgh; pimp; steroids; tiger
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Do steroids and HGH wear off if you have not jacked up on them in a while?

Phil Mickelson is one shot off the lead in second. Tiger is tied for 74th place and would have missed the cut today but this tourney does not have a cut.

1 posted on 08/06/2010 7:14:57 PM PDT by Frantzie
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To: Frantzie

I fogot the link to the story: Sorry

http://www.cbssports.com/golf/story/13715345/surprising-thing-about-tigers-slide-its-no-longer-surprising


2 posted on 08/06/2010 7:15:38 PM PDT by Frantzie (Television controls the American people/sheep)
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To: Frantzie

Oh well Too bad...

He was more of a hero when we thought he was a decent guy...


3 posted on 08/06/2010 7:17:14 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Frantzie
Must really suck to be a Tiger and have all that high testosterone level flowing thru ya with no place to put it in the hole anymore because everyone is watching your every move now .....

/sarc and pun off

4 posted on 08/06/2010 7:20:45 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight
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To: Frantzie

There’s one thing Tiger needs to put his game back on track.


5 posted on 08/06/2010 7:20:58 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: Frantzie
Out of all the skills Tiger's dad could have taught him besides golf:

DON'T THINK WITH YOUR DICK!!!

6 posted on 08/06/2010 7:22:27 PM PDT by LiberConservative
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

He might as well. Whatever he’s been trying in the last few months hasn’t worked.


7 posted on 08/06/2010 7:24:32 PM PDT by Textide
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To: Frantzie

Just guessing, but when the protective/confidence based bubble bursts, and all at once your just another smuck competing at a skill game, Sh!t Happens!

Pray for his soul, not his golf game.


8 posted on 08/06/2010 7:29:10 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: Frantzie

While I believe Tiger was on something to bulk up his body, I don’t believe it necessarily made him a better golfer. At this point, his problem is mental, imho. The public now knows he’s really a frickin jerk and and a fake.


9 posted on 08/06/2010 7:29:22 PM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL (Hope and Change. Rhetoric embraced by the Insane - Obama, The Chump in Charge)
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To: Frantzie
Golf is a funny game,

"Competitive golf is played mainly on a five-and-a-half-inch course,the space between your ears."

10 posted on 08/06/2010 7:30:25 PM PDT by mdittmar (i)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

Yeah it’s funny. In Gilgamesh, he has a pal, Enkidu, who is sort of a Mr. Natural superman, until he gets matched up with a prostitute and loses his edge. This concept is used in FORBIDDEN PLANET, when Anne Francis loses her innocence, even if only in thought, and her familiar tiger (!) jumps her and Leslie Nielsen has to zap it. She says, “Why did he do that?” and Nielsen says, “You don’t know?” , which I always thought was expecting a lot. Anyhow, Tiger lost his innocence, in a way.


11 posted on 08/06/2010 7:30:45 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: J Edgar

“Pray for his soul, not his golf game.”

“Pray for MY golf game, not my soul.”

;-)


12 posted on 08/06/2010 7:31:34 PM PDT by Frantzie (Television controls the American people/sheep)
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To: Frantzie

I saw some of the photos and he looks bigger to me now than he has in a while. His kryptonite has been taken away, though, and it ain’t juice. It’s his not so secret life and god complex. That’s all gone and now he just can’t function. He needs to leave golf for at least a year.


13 posted on 08/06/2010 7:31:36 PM PDT by rintense
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To: Frantzie

Do steroids and HGH wear off if you have not jacked up on them in a while?

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Do they help you hit the ball straight? I can understand additional length or power, etc but Tiger’s problem today isn’t length but rather it’s accuracy as I see it. I’ve not looked at his putting stats but I don’t think he’s even the putter he was a few years back. How would roids and HGH help that if in fact his putting is somewhat below his previous standard?


14 posted on 08/06/2010 7:35:15 PM PDT by deport
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To: MAD-AS-HELL
The public now knows he’s really a frickin jerk and and a fake.

"He was despised, and rejected of men."

... don't get mad at me, it's all about "the public".

15 posted on 08/06/2010 7:35:26 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Frantzie

I might suggest that your priorities are backa$$wards! LOL


16 posted on 08/06/2010 7:36:09 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: deport

I used to read a lot of stuff over at GolfWrx which has some very good golfers but too many Tiger fan boys though the herd is thinning.

One of the first things that can gowith a professional golfer is the hands in the mid to late thirties. It really screws the putting. One reason for belly putters.

The thing I noticed the most from possible steroids and or HGH is the forearms were massive. He did not have those as a kid. Compare this to diminutive and younger Camillo Villegas who was a gym rat at U of Florida. He is very fit and wiry.

A few other more knowledgeable freepers; one guy a good golfer who was trying to go pro and spendt a LOT of time in the gym and another fellow who posts here had good observations about Tiger.

The one gent today said the arms and stregnth helped him in the rough and the PGA created this android. Hitting out of the rough can be very hard.

The fellow who is a very good golfer (FR) said his size was too bigh for spending endless size in the gym. See the red shirt and fist photo. Someone here posted an example with him having pancake on his head. The arms, shoulders etc are just too big.


18 posted on 08/06/2010 7:42:15 PM PDT by Frantzie (Television controls the American people/sheep)
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To: Frantzie

At a certain point in a person’s life one must realize that to go against the inner conscience does no favor.


19 posted on 08/06/2010 7:44:50 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Frantzie
hard to say how much he has 'shriveled' or how much he has returned to a more normal state of build .. he looks pretty solid.

you need solid forearms and wrist for sure, especially when ya can't drive worth a darn. ;-)

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Tiger Woods of the U.S. ponders his second shot on the 10th hole (Left photo) and hits a ball out of a green side bunker on the 11th hole (Right photo) during his second round of play at the WCG Bridgestone Invitational golf tournament in Akron, Ohio August 6, 2010. REUTERS/Aaron Josefczyk


20 posted on 08/06/2010 7:51:18 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: Baynative

It is somewhat sad. I thought he is arrogant, a club thrower and acted badly but I did not dislike him. I disliked his fans and the media’s hype of him.

Also the lib sports media dumping on the supporting cast of “white guys” and the media and fans focusing their biggest ire and contempt mainly at Phil Mickelson. The media has always been Tiger this and that while the other guys are nobodies.

I also would like to get to the bottom of the possible perfromance enhancing drugs and the PGA’s possible collusion because the money was just too good.


21 posted on 08/06/2010 7:51:55 PM PDT by Frantzie (Television controls the American people/sheep)
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To: J Edgar

Just kidding. I have pretty much given up on the golf game and more concerned about my soul. ;-)


22 posted on 08/06/2010 7:54:46 PM PDT by Frantzie (Television controls the American people/sheep)
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To: Frantzie

lol - sorry i missed your humor.


23 posted on 08/06/2010 8:02:29 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: Mr_Moonlight

Since Tiger only does white women, does that make him a racist?


25 posted on 08/06/2010 8:11:48 PM PDT by decisis
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To: Frantzie

Interesting. Thanks for posting. Go Phil!


26 posted on 08/06/2010 8:16:18 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: deport

The term ‘roid rage’ comes to mind. Some steroids can be very powerful and can influence the mind and personality. Talk to some ladies whose husbands or suitors have been on them. Nothing we take into our bodies is absolutely benign is it?


27 posted on 08/06/2010 8:32:22 PM PDT by Doulos1 (Bitter Clinger Forever)
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To: Frantzie
While there are many stories to be gleaned from this modern day celebrity tragedy. The one I find most interesting is what an odd reality Tiger Woods must have. Wealthy and well known to princely proportions, he is now shamed, humiliated and humbled so very publicly.

Yet in his role as sports God, he must continue to perform in the most public arena imaginable...The modern day professional golf tournament, where the flinch of every muscle is photographed measured and recorded. Under that spotlight he will try to not let us know his inner struggles.

In his personal life anonymity is lost. Every friend or acquaintance has to be suspect, a possible gold digger; future tell-all entrepreneur; or self engrandising-hanger-on. Who is real...he must be asking himself. Who can he trust.

The Tiger Woods Story has been going on in front of our eyes for his entire life. It is the ultimate reality show. Once it was just his golf game. Now it is his entire life.

28 posted on 08/06/2010 8:37:37 PM PDT by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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To: Frantzie

golf just started testing for steroids. hmmm


29 posted on 08/06/2010 8:47:08 PM PDT by dselig
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To: Baynative

Interesting post. Regarding your last sentence; Phil was playing with young Rory McIlroy on Thursday and I think today. They both said they enjoy playing together as they chat through the round.

They asked Phil about the young talent and how did it compare versus when he was their age. I forget the exact words but Phil said their ball striking is much better and extraordinary.

Tiger on Thursday was about 290 yards off the tee and was hitting an abysmal 36% of the fairways. Almost all the youngsters including smaller Rory are in the 305 yard area.

Phil has been working a lot and got an eased up driver (shorter and heavier shaft) and was pounding them 310 yards.

I think the PGA is now in three groups for driving:

Shorter guys who are accurate - Furyk, Guidos, Pavin, Gay and a few others. 260 to 280 yards.

Middle guys: 280 to 292 yards. Steve Stricker, Mahan.

Guys who crush it: 300 to 313 avg.
Lots of good guys are here now like Phil, Rory, O’Hair, Watney, Watson, Quiros, Dustin Johnson, Padraig, Casey and others.

Tiger is a middle guy now. He used to be long. Did that change due to the knee, swing or getting off HGH/ROIDs?


30 posted on 08/06/2010 9:13:58 PM PDT by Frantzie (Television controls the American people/sheep)
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To: dselig

They started a week after he left golf for about 9 months to have his knee worked on after he beat Rocco at the US Open in 2008. Coincidence?


31 posted on 08/06/2010 9:15:35 PM PDT by Frantzie (Television controls the American people/sheep)
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To: Frantzie

I think the turning point came for Tiger when he had to fire Barry Bonds as his swing coach.


32 posted on 08/06/2010 9:16:35 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (No apologies.)
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To: dr_lew

Please don’t use that reference about Jesus (despised and rejected of men) for Tiger.

Jesus was without any sin. Lived a completely holy life. That’s why He was despised and rejected by the world.

Also those described by the Apostle Paul, ... “and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.”


33 posted on 08/06/2010 9:17:58 PM PDT by Cedar
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To: Frantzie

I suspect you’re right....


34 posted on 08/06/2010 10:09:11 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Cedar

I assure you I mean no disrespect by the analogy, which is often made whenever someone is raised to great heights, then cast down. It’s food for thought.


35 posted on 08/06/2010 10:28:29 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Frantzie

Hey Frantzie,
If ya don’t think steroids and hgh jacks em up then why are baseballs hitters about 50 points below their hitting averages?
Cause ..b.b finally got serious about the juice.


36 posted on 08/07/2010 3:00:58 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Ya unAmerican p.o.s.)
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To: MAD-AS-HELL
At this point, his problem is mental, imho.

BINGO!!!

37 posted on 08/07/2010 6:39:47 AM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: Joe Boucher

Good question. Most of the buys in BB who got caugh jucin where gone after they were caught. Jason Giambi stayed. Oddly this year he is batting .278 which is pretty good but he has had only 4 HR. His career HR are 412 which is a lot.

I think without HGH and steroids that home run production plummets. I know some guy who works for a company who was a pitcher and just got out of MBL. He claims that juicing and steroids are still in baseball. I think A-ROD is someone who is still juicin.

After seeing how the baseball guys were supermen on steroids - I am sure Tiger was and may still be using PEDs (drugs/hgh/steroids). He worked with the best doctor in the business.


38 posted on 08/07/2010 7:15:17 AM PDT by Frantzie (Television controls the American people/sheep)
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To: dr_lew

I’m sure you didn’t mean harm. I’ve never heard that scripture used to refer to just anyone raised to great heights then cast down. It’s always the sacred description of Jesus, and the suffering He went through daily while on this earth—despised and rejected of men.

Maybe you’re thinking of the scripture, he that exalts himself shall be humbled...

That one would apply to such a situation you mentioned.


39 posted on 08/07/2010 8:53:36 AM PDT by Cedar
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To: Baynative

I am reading a thread on Golf WRX and they are talking about Phil Mickelson. Most of the guys who post there are good amateur players. They are talking about how long Phil Mickelson hits his irons.

They are raving about how long he is. When Phil was younger and up to two years ago he was more roly poly but a big guy at 6’4”. They said due to fitness, core and strength training he is more like a linebacker now.

One guy said the other day Phil hit an 8 iron 181 yards on a par 3 to 10 feet to the hole. Guys talking how he hits his iron shots so high they can drop right on the green and stop.

Another who was at a tourney 30 feet from Phil and said he hit a 2 iron 268 yards. Phil is crazy long.

I wonder mentally if Tiger is also watching Phil getting better and stronger as he has gotten older.


40 posted on 08/07/2010 9:18:57 AM PDT by Frantzie (Television controls the American people/sheep)
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To: Frantzie

My soul felt pretty good after I shot a 78 yesterday...no roids and no girls needed.

No bogeys, 4 doubles on the backside, to birds on the front and finished with 2 birds.

Yes, this is not a par 72..only one par 5 on back side.

Hit a 4 iron to 6 feet on the 18.


41 posted on 08/07/2010 10:38:25 AM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
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To: Frantzie

....oh, and it was 3 straight doubles after the double shot of scotch on an empty stomach...took 45 minutes to clear it out of my system.


42 posted on 08/07/2010 10:39:23 AM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

Nice job. Tiger imploded again today. He is 11 over after 3 rounds and essentially in last place.

On the first day the PGA was still pimping him with “shot of the day” on their web site where he hit a 7 iron to within 7 feet of the green.

I did the same thing last week from about 135 yards with a 7 iron and I suck. It was not a shot of the day. Just the PGA trying to prop him up.


43 posted on 08/07/2010 11:05:45 AM PDT by Frantzie (Television controls the American people/sheep)
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

Uh...I don’t think that is a good thing for your stomach or golf game. Ouch!


44 posted on 08/07/2010 11:18:37 AM PDT by Frantzie (Television controls the American people/sheep)
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To: Frantzie

Is it possible that the same thing that happened to Steve Blass could happen to Tiger Woods. Does that happen to golfers.


45 posted on 08/07/2010 8:35:33 PM PDT by fkabuckeyesrule (NYC to Jihadist: WE SURRENDER!)
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To: fkabuckeyesrule

Yes it does. The prime example is David Duval. He was number 1 as Tiger was coming up. Probably Tiger would not have been able to beat him. He fell totally apart. Still trying to rebuild his game. Plays well then falls back. Daly was probably better then Tiger but wine, women, gambling, food and song destroyed him.

Duval would be a perfect Steve Blass example. Nick Faldo to some extent and Ian Baker Finch to some extent though maybe injuries were reponsible - he won the British Open and a few others.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/golf/baker-finch-gagged-about-commenting-on-tiger/story-e6frey60-1225810306181

Ian was told if he said anything else even slightly bad about Tiger on CBS - he would be fired.

Tiger’s other problem is age and putting. Putting usually goes first because of the hands. He is only 34 but it can go early.

Phil Mickelson is 40 but his fitness and playing seem to be improving due to hard work. The word was Thursday or Friday Tiger rushed to his SUV with no practice. Phil finished late in the day and was off to the practice range to work on things. Tiger used to be a workaholic.

Mickelson’s iron play and short it wedge irons are probably the best in the game. The wedges require “touch” like the putter. Tiger was a great putter but if he loses that - he is over.

Golf is very much a you can lose it overnight sport. It is incredibly competitive, the young kids are amazing and it is produce or die. It requires physical, timing and tempo on the swing, great “touch” or feel and mentally it is very very hard.

Tiger may be imploding like Blass or how David Duval imploded.

More on Duval who is actually making progress. I think his family is more important to him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Duval


46 posted on 08/07/2010 10:08:08 PM PDT by Frantzie (Television controls the American people/sheep)
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To: Baynative

Tiger imploded again today. He either has totally fallen apart or it is some sympathy come back scam. Poor Phil was in contention but he is having a lousy day too.

The youngsters like Mahan and Sean O’Hair are tearing it up today.

Tiger would be a joke pick for the Ryder Cup. Someone said - see how he does next week. The course next week has about 970 or so bunkers!


48 posted on 08/08/2010 1:09:56 PM PDT by Frantzie (Television controls the American people/sheep)
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To: Frantzie

I still maintain since the PGA began testing for steroids and PEDs after he won USOpen at Torrey Pines-San Diego, “le tigre” has been declining in performance and his previously bulked up body. The news of his Canadian doc who was helping him rehab after that USOpen being busted for steroids have certainly been hushed.

Not to diminish the after effects of his whoring, but the lack of PEDs have negatively affected him.


49 posted on 08/08/2010 1:16:46 PM PDT by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: newfreep

Tiger’s deal with the Devil for Golf Supremacy apparently ended just seconds before his car hit that tree months ago....


50 posted on 08/08/2010 1:18:30 PM PDT by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality: Marxism is Evil.)
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