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Professor booted from Starbucks
upi. ^ | Aug. 16, 2010

Posted on 08/16/2010 11:52:40 PM PDT by JoeProBono

NEW YORK, - A New York English professor said she was kicked out of a Starbucks by three police officers because she refused to follow the cafe's ordering rules.

Lynne Rosenthal, who gave her age as early 60s, said she got into an argument with a barista Sunday morning because she refused to specify whether she wanted butter or cheese on her multigrain bagel, the New York Post reported Monday.

"I just wanted a multigrain bagel," Rosenthal said. "I refused to say 'without butter or cheese.' When you go to Burger King, you don't have to list the six things you don't want."

"Linguistically, it's stupid, and I'm a stickler for correct English," she said.

Rosenthal said a manager called police during the incident and three officers who responded to the scene ordered her to leave the store.

"It was very humiliating to be thrown out, and all I did was ask for a bagel," Rosenthal said. "If you don't use their language, they refuse to serve you. They don't understand what a plain multigrain bagel is."

A Starbucks employee at the store during the incident said Rosenthal was being unreasonable.


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To: B-Chan

This is no lie...I once had a boss say to me, “That might be the more efficient way, but it’s not how I want it to be done.”


51 posted on 08/17/2010 12:41:04 AM PDT by scott7278 ("...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked." BHO)
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To: scott7278

52 posted on 08/17/2010 12:42:50 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: Ronin

Pure psychology...it’s easier to get you to upgrade from a medium than it is from a small.


53 posted on 08/17/2010 12:43:12 AM PDT by scott7278 ("...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked." BHO)
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To: freedumb2003
Didn't the “Barristas” go union a couple of years ago?

The best coffee buying advice has been given here several times. Find a good local convenience store or fast food place that makes the best coffee and stick with them. It's cheaper and less annoying.

54 posted on 08/17/2010 12:44:13 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: doesnt suffer fools gladly

Depending on when this story happened, he might have too much information now to make a decision.


55 posted on 08/17/2010 12:46:19 AM PDT by scott7278 ("...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked." BHO)
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To: albie

Me too. For me it is small, medium and large.


56 posted on 08/17/2010 12:49:03 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: JoeProBono
Frankly, the whole chain is overrated. And who eats ANYTHING from those places? I flew out of Boston a few months back. There was another name for the bagel they served me--I think it was called "hockey puck".

I threw it out and went down the concourse to Dunkin Donuts, which is what I should have done in the first place.
57 posted on 08/17/2010 12:52:23 AM PDT by OCCASparky (Obama--Playing a West Wing fantasy in a '24' world.)
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To: Ronin
Arrrrrrrgggghhhhh!!!!!!

Sounds like you need to watch THIS skit again (Denis Leary, NSFW):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kkg0WLj7TJ8
58 posted on 08/17/2010 12:59:03 AM PDT by OCCASparky (Obama--Playing a West Wing fantasy in a '24' world.)
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To: OCCASparky

Dunkin’s coffee blows Stabguts’ evil swill away.

The Navy ruined me for coffee. If it isn’t black and strong enough to strip paint off a bulkhead, count me out.


59 posted on 08/17/2010 1:05:45 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: ThunderSleeps

It wasn’t that she refused to speak Starbucks language, it is that she called the server an A hole. She sounds like an elitist harpy who takes pleasure in ruining other lesser human beings’ days.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/venti_size_fury_A0uKw71Ky1UAOksmbjrBhI


60 posted on 08/17/2010 1:14:37 AM PDT by flying Elvis ("In...War, the errors which proceed from a spirit of benevolence are the worst" Clausewitz.)
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To: JoeProBono

Moral: Don’t go into a Starbucks and mention “Bagel”. The forces of law and order will be on you right quick.


61 posted on 08/17/2010 1:18:57 AM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: Still Thinking
This is one of the main problems with our society. It's all about the form and not the function. The LEO world makes great movies. The other jobs don't.

There was a latino who was complaining that a new series was painting latinos in a bad light. The response of the latino star was, "No one want to watch 'Jose the accountant'".

Cops think they are Praetorian and not Plebeian.

Eventually they'll find out that the people they obey are far more comtemptious of them then the people they "serve and protect".
62 posted on 08/17/2010 1:23:12 AM PDT by Anvilhead (Dammit Jim, I'm an American not an American't.)
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To: JoeProBono
Ya gots to order yer bagel mit a schmear! In New Yawk they'll unnerstan.
63 posted on 08/17/2010 1:25:00 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: kromike
Ruth Buzzy with her hair in a tight bun & glasses comes to mind. Probably single, too.

In her own way, even with her hair in a bun and wearing glasses, Ruth Buzzy was strangely kinda hot (at least to me). My bet is that this one isn't even close,

64 posted on 08/17/2010 1:57:55 AM PDT by Bob
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To: JoeProBono

I have to admit I see her point. She says she ordered a “plain bagel.” That’s plain English. Why should she have to answer the question of does that mean you want cheese or butter on it? Plain means plain. Anyone who can speak English would understand.

I suspect that Starbucks had several illegals working there who had no idea what she was talking about. If they would hire English speakers, problems like this wouldn’t come up. Maybe that’s the point she was trying to make.


65 posted on 08/17/2010 2:00:49 AM PDT by freethinker_for_freedom
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To: B-Chan
The Navy ruined me for coffee. If it isn’t black and strong enough to strip paint off a bulkhead, count me out.

Tell me about it. After diving the potable water tanks as a nub on my first boat, I refused to drink any water which wasn't boiled to death and filtered through that supersized tin of coffee that Juan Valdez himself brought across the I-95 bridge.

Some people say a good cup of coffee is one in which you can just see a dime in the bottom of the cup. My idea of a good cup of coffee is where you can just see a dime DISSOLVE in the bottom of the cup.
66 posted on 08/17/2010 2:20:02 AM PDT by OCCASparky (Obama--Playing a West Wing fantasy in a '24' world.)
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To: Bob
In her own way, even with her hair in a bun and wearing glasses, Ruth Buzzy was strangely kinda hot (at least to me). My bet is that this one isn't even close,

Bwahahahahaha...it's those quiet shy types that are totally wild.

;^)

67 posted on 08/17/2010 2:25:42 AM PDT by kromike
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To: JoeProBono

What was she doing getting a bagel at Starbucks anyway? She was at 86th and Columbus, a stone’s throw from Zabar’s.

Starbucks bagels are bread in the shape of a bagel, and their croissants are bread in the shape of a croissant. But all the Starbuces are nice and don’t mind if you bring in food from outside.


68 posted on 08/17/2010 2:30:14 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: freedumb2003

MMM. Tasty.


69 posted on 08/17/2010 2:38:24 AM PDT by WhirlwindAttack (Soon I will disappear. Time to go offgrid and underground. Go Galt now, go Bowman later.)
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To: Ronin

You should go to lunch with a bunch of copyeditors sometime and watch them tear the menu apart. “What is risotto doing under pasta?” “Why is Appetizers in English and Dolci in Italian?” “It’s egglplant parmigiana, not eggplant parmesan.” “Fish and Seafood? Isn’t that a category mistake?” “Pepperoncini??!! With two p’s???!!!”

By the time you get your food, it’s time to go back to the office.


70 posted on 08/17/2010 2:46:58 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: Maelstorm

My understanding from a friend who works in NYC is that the hired help at many Starbucks ‘stores’ in the city is dumber than a box of rocks.

My friend, who is from another city originally, said she was stunned when moving to NY and finding out that it is not what you’d expect — the hustle bustle and efficiency you’d think exists in a world class city (?) ain’t what it used to be — baristas often have the ‘manana syndrome’ and feel no need to hurry or accommodate.

I’ll bet in this scenario the employees got real snippy with the bagel requester and she verbally ripped into them. If that’s all there was to it, I’d have been on her side.


71 posted on 08/17/2010 2:49:58 AM PDT by CaliforniaCon
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

It was tried. I watch the Wobblies try to organize the Starbucks at 36th and Madison.


72 posted on 08/17/2010 2:53:43 AM PDT by firebrand (hogging the Starbucks thread)
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To: firebrand

I am a copyeditor...

I don’t find that unusual in the slightest.


73 posted on 08/17/2010 2:56:00 AM PDT by Ronin (If it weren’t so gruesomely malevolent, Islam would just be silly.)
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To: Ronin

Me too...


74 posted on 08/17/2010 3:00:30 AM PDT by firebrand (hogging the Starbucks thread)
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To: kromike

“Sounds like a real charmer...
Ruth Buzzy with her hair in a tight bun & glasses comes to mind. Probably single, too”

You forgot the scarf in the summertime. Libs often wear scarfs in the summertime for no apparent reason. Please fill me in as to why, if anyone knows.


75 posted on 08/17/2010 3:19:02 AM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: flying Elvis

Sounds as if an elite diva ran into a diva barista! Cat fight! I don’t see why she phrased it as having anything to do with proper language or grammar. She should just admit she was being a jerk. Bet she’s fun to be around!


76 posted on 08/17/2010 3:24:55 AM PDT by GnuHere
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To: fatnotlazy
I attended the University of Washington in Seattle in the mid-1970s, so I consider myself to have been an onlooker at the beginning of the Starbucks phenomenon.

The genius of Starbucks is marketing.

First, they appeal to their customer's elitist inclinations (Seattle being an ideal place to start) by convincing them that the only coffee worth drinking is coffee made with very dark (actually over-roasted) beans. Then they convince them to pay for the addition of 600 calories (or more) of flavorings to make that cup of bitter coffee drinkable.

Eh, viola! A cup of good tasting black coffee that cost maybe $0.25 to produce and should be sold for no more than a dollar, can now cost $3.00 to $5.00. Brilliant.

And, if anyone complains about the underlying burnt taste or exorbitant pricing, just impugn their ancestry, education, or politics. In that case, Starbucks should be the official coffee of the Democratic Party. Certainly would fit with its place of origin.

77 posted on 08/17/2010 3:58:41 AM PDT by Captain Rhino (“Si vis pacem, para bellum” - if you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: Anvilhead
3 officers to take care of a non-violent problem at a Starbucks?

Starbucks: The new Dunkin' Donuts. (Get it? They were already there...)
78 posted on 08/17/2010 4:44:52 AM PDT by Quality_Not_Quantity (A half-truth masquerading as the whole truth becomes a complete untruth. (J.I. Packer)
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To: Quality_Not_Quantity

79 posted on 08/17/2010 4:49:43 AM PDT by Hoodat (.For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: Bob
A photo of the ejectee in question:


80 posted on 08/17/2010 4:50:02 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Forcing one person to pay for the irresponsibility of another is NOT social justice.)
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To: mountn man
They were giving away samples of Starbucks (or, as another Freeper calls it, 'Charbucks') Via instant coffee at my Costco over the weekend.

I don't care what you do to it, instant coffee ALWAYS smells like instant coffee - and this stuff was no exception to the rule. I spotted the smell as she was pouring it, and it had that same Nescafe taste.

But, hey! It's Starbucks, man. Do ya hear me? Starbucks!

Whatever...
81 posted on 08/17/2010 4:53:47 AM PDT by Quality_Not_Quantity (A half-truth masquerading as the whole truth becomes a complete untruth. (J.I. Packer)
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To: JoeProBono

Our Dear Professor clearly wasn’t creative enough to say “I prefer neither cheese nor butter.”

Then she would have offended neither the Barista nor the English language.

Maybe calling the cops was the right move. People who are this narrowly self-obsessed should be locked up.


82 posted on 08/17/2010 5:02:35 AM PDT by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality Now: Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: JoeProBono

Charbucks is a snooty fad business. I’ll never go there a second time.

Why the hell would you waste your time standing in line and then pay three or four times for a cup of burnt coffee?

You could get a truly large and better grade of coffee at McDonalds for a buck.


83 posted on 08/17/2010 5:19:24 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate: Republicans freed the slaves Month.)
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To: JoeProBono

Well, they will never have a problem with me. You couldn’t pay me $20.00 to go get a cup of their coffee. I’ve had their crap twice - the first and last the same morning.


84 posted on 08/17/2010 5:40:50 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Remember in November. Clean the house on Nov. 2. / Progressive is a PC word for liberal democrat.)
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To: albie
>medium half decaf and half regular

Out of curiosity, do you really need to specify that the other half of your "half decaf" is "regular?" I bet you could optimize your order a little bit and just ask for a "half decaf" and be fine.

85 posted on 08/17/2010 5:44:10 AM PDT by krb (Obama is a miserable failure.)
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To: JoeProBono
They don't understand what a plain multigrain bagel is."

And how hard would it have been to say, "Plain multigrain bagel, hold the butter, hold the cream cheese?"

86 posted on 08/17/2010 5:49:19 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: JoeProBono

Why didn’t the guy just give her a bagel and forget about it?


87 posted on 08/17/2010 5:49:41 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (Stimulus ~ Response)
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To: scott7278
My thought too. I suspect she was upset the waitress did not respect her towering intellect.
88 posted on 08/17/2010 5:54:50 AM PDT by starlifter (Sapor Amo Pullus)
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To: JoeProBono

She is right.


89 posted on 08/17/2010 5:57:16 AM PDT by bvw
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To: JoeProBono

Which Starbucks was it in NYC? I want to make a trip there and order a bagel!


90 posted on 08/17/2010 5:59:04 AM PDT by bvw
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To: castlegreyskull

“Libs often wear scarfs in the summertime for no apparent reason. Please fill me in as to why, if anyone knows.”

Libs occasionally need to hide their faces.


91 posted on 08/17/2010 6:00:34 AM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: scott7278

I’d bet money she never uttered the word “plain” in the entire encounter. I expect when asked “butter or cheese” she said “no”, and things devolved from there.


92 posted on 08/17/2010 6:02:42 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Why didn’t she just take the free butter and put it in her purse for later?


93 posted on 08/17/2010 6:05:25 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: castlegreyskull
Libs often wear scarfs in the summertime for no apparent reason. Please fill me in as to why, if anyone knows.

It's by far one of the cheapest and easiest ways to maintain that elitist air of aloof irrelevance.

94 posted on 08/17/2010 6:09:22 AM PDT by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality Now: Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: JoeProBono

My office is two blocks over and one block down, right across from the building with the flashing red light.

LOL


95 posted on 08/17/2010 6:14:55 AM PDT by CedarDave (Ten-year anniversary - proudly Freeping since Aug 17, 2000)
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To: JoeProBono

I work at a university. Once you say ‘English Dept.’...you have said it all.


96 posted on 08/17/2010 6:16:59 AM PDT by SMARTY ("What luck for rulers that men do not think." Adolph Hitler)
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To: Quality_Not_Quantity
With the amount of overtime money they make for "protecting" us from the violently murderous and savage 60 year old women they can afford Starbucks donuts.

I just wish they would spend that money on testicles.

I do respect the 10-15% of officers that faithfully and reasonably discharge their duties. They don't need to buy testicles as they were issued a pair by God. Or ovaries as appropriate.
97 posted on 08/17/2010 6:17:52 AM PDT by Anvilhead (Dammit Jim, I'm an American not an American't.)
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To: freedumb2003

>>>And they are just waitpersons. “Barrista” is just stupid.

And here I thought barrista was an Italian word that means “coffee wench”. :)


98 posted on 08/17/2010 6:18:59 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Iowa floods, Obama vacations. Moochelle Obama, please pass the cake.)
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To: mountn man

Too each his own. I like my coffee pretty strong (it doesn’t take as much water to make coffee as most folks seem to think it does) and every time I’ve tried Dunkin Donuts coffee it has been not quite as good as a cup of Sanka instant coffee.

If I had a choice of paying for a cup of Starbucks or getting a cup of Dunkin Donuts coffee for free, I would probably flip a coin to decide which way to go.


99 posted on 08/17/2010 6:44:36 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: Anvilhead
What do you have against the police?

This could have been a terrorist incident or she might have taken hostages. I think they underreacted...where was the SWAT team?

100 posted on 08/17/2010 6:59:34 AM PDT by starlifter (Sapor Amo Pullus)
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