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Knowing cultural view of virginity, Chinese women try surgical restoration
Washington Post ^ | 8-17-10 | Keith B. Richburg

Posted on 08/17/2010 8:50:47 PM PDT by Justaham

Add a new one to the list: fake virgins.

A growing number of Chinese women -- mostly in their 20s and about to get married -- are opting for a surgical procedure called "hymen restoration," which returns the hymen to its condition before it was ruptured, which typically occurs during first sexual contact but can also happen while playing sports or doing other strenuous activities.

Even as China has flung open its doors to the West and modernized, a deeply conservative and chauvinistic attitude persists. Many men, including white-collar professionals, say they want to marry a virgin. And increasingly liberated Chinese women have found a way to oblige them.

"We can fix it so everything is perfect, so the men can believe they are marrying virgins," said Zhou Hong, a physician and director of gynecology at the Beijing Wuzhou Women's Hospital. "We don't advertise it; we don't publicize it."

Zhou, 44, said most of her patients are sexually active young women who are about to marry and have told their future husbands they are virgins. She said a smaller number want to forget a bad relationship and "start over," and a few have been victims of rape.

Zhou is one of many Chinese doctors performing the procedure, which is also done in other countries. She said she restores as many as 20 hymens a month, and the number is increasing. For as little as 5,000 renminbi, or about $737, for a 20-to-30-minute procedure, Zhou is giving women a second chance at having a first time.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: china; chinese; chinesewomen; culturewar; extramaritalsex; fakevirgins; fraud; lyingliars; napl; sexpositiveagenda; sexualrevolution

1 posted on 08/17/2010 8:50:48 PM PDT by Justaham
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To: Justaham

Sounds like me g/f in College — she was sure she could be a recovered virgin...


3 posted on 08/17/2010 9:00:57 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Either we have principles or we are just liberals following the winds a bit starboard...)
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To: Justaham

“Women demand men have houses and cars, why can’t men demand women be virgins?” asked one man on the Tianya site. “So, greedy women, remember, you have to protect your hymens, because those are big dowries for you to exchange for money.”

Hard to argue with this


4 posted on 08/17/2010 9:02:37 PM PDT by mainsail that ("A man will fight harder for his interests than for his rights" - Napoleon Bonaparte)
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To: Justaham

Considering the degree to which women are limited in China, those guys are getting pretty cocky...


5 posted on 08/17/2010 9:07:51 PM PDT by To Hell With Poverty (The War on Poverty is over. Poverty won. - Howie Carr)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Virgins again an hour later ping.


6 posted on 08/17/2010 9:09:00 PM PDT by To Hell With Poverty (The War on Poverty is over. Poverty won. - Howie Carr)
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To: Justaham

Confucius say, man who sleep with twice virgin woman, guaranteed to wake up with Material Girl.


7 posted on 08/17/2010 9:13:47 PM PDT by woodchukwood ("The only thing that saves us from the bureaucracy is its inefficiency." -E. McCarthy)
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To: mainsail that

The houses/money/status/whatever will last a lot longer than a hymen. It’s gone forever after the wedding night.


8 posted on 08/17/2010 9:13:49 PM PDT by ktscarlett66 (Face it girls....I'm older and I have more insurance....)
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To: mainsail that

Hard to argue? What a perverted, little creep that guy is.


9 posted on 08/17/2010 9:23:20 PM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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To: Justaham

“a deeply conservative and chauvinistic attitude persists”

I see, the desire to marry a virgin is both deeply conservative AND chauvinistic now.

Boy, was I a big jerk, I guess.


10 posted on 08/17/2010 9:23:49 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Justaham

Calling Dr. Hymen, Dr. Buster Hymen....


11 posted on 08/17/2010 9:38:05 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Justaham

Fraud is a great way to start a marriage.


12 posted on 08/17/2010 9:42:42 PM PDT by seowulf ("If you write a whole line of zeroes, it's still---nothing"...Kira Alexandrovna Argounova)
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To: Justaham

I have to laugh whenever the stereotype of the weak, demure little Asian is trotted out ... some are, but some are vicious and cunning enough to scare the pants off Machiavelli.


13 posted on 08/17/2010 10:00:59 PM PDT by ikka
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To: Persevero
I see, the desire to marry a virgin is both deeply conservative AND chauvinistic now. Boy, was I a big jerk, I guess.

The only men who are jerks for demanding virginity of their women are those who aren't virgins themselves.

14 posted on 08/17/2010 10:27:13 PM PDT by Tamar1973 (Germans in 1932 thought they were voting for change too.)
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To: Justaham

Maybe Madonna can remake her song, “Like A Virgin” into “Like A Fake Virgin”.


15 posted on 08/17/2010 10:27:54 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Tamar1973

Yes, there should not be a double standard.

The article seems to assume that the men who want a virgin wife are not virgins themselves. How do they know?


16 posted on 08/17/2010 10:43:30 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Tamar1973

**high five**


17 posted on 08/17/2010 10:44:20 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: Persevero

Because most cultures don’t demand that men remain virgins until marriage like they do for women.


18 posted on 08/17/2010 10:46:51 PM PDT by Tamar1973 (Germans in 1932 thought they were voting for change too.)
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To: To Hell With Poverty; MeekOneGOP; Conspiracy Guy; DocRock; King Prout; Darksheare; OSHA; ...
When does Helen Thomas move to China?


19 posted on 08/17/2010 10:54:16 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Justaham

A casing never looks the same after sausage has been in it.


20 posted on 08/17/2010 10:57:05 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: Tamar1973

We supposed to crose deals.


21 posted on 08/17/2010 10:58:16 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: Persevero

Women get pregnant, men don’t.

That’s why the so called double standard is a valid standard.


22 posted on 08/17/2010 11:03:00 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: Tamar1973

Islam, Christianity, and Judaism do.

Christianity and Islam being the two main world religions, I’d say most cultures do have that ideal.

I don’t know about Buddhist or Hindu requirements.


23 posted on 08/17/2010 11:03:56 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Tamar1973

I should probably take out Islam, at least more recently, because I have read that they are having temporary virginity fatwas or some such nonsense.

Also, to be more clear, premarital sex is forbidden. If you are not a virgin due to being raped, or being widowed, or some other reason other than fornication, virginity is not required.


24 posted on 08/17/2010 11:05:27 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Age of Reason

“Women get pregnant, men don’t.”

I can see a certain pragmatic truth to that.

In the sense that you can look at a pregnant woman and tell she’d had sex of some kind. Whereas you can’t just tell by looking at a man.

However, from a moral standpoint, it is no more sinful for a woman than for a man.

In the case of a rape of course it is not immoral for the woman at all. Yet she is the one who ends up with the baby.

All the more reason for men to be protective of women and girls rather than using them for no-consequences gratification.


25 posted on 08/17/2010 11:07:43 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: ikka

LOL... how true you speak.

Even worse, some of the most incredibly vicious and cruel and the ones who look the most weak and demure.

Trust me, this is a lesson I learned a long time ago.


26 posted on 08/18/2010 12:07:25 AM PDT by Ronin (If it werenÂ’t so gruesomely malevolent, Islam would just be silly.)
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To: Justaham

Nothing new here. When I worked in Melbourne, I had a few friends in the Greek community and this was favoured by them for similar reasons.


27 posted on 08/18/2010 1:31:51 AM PDT by Androcles (All your typos are belong to us)
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To: Persevero

From WiKi:

Hinduism: Hinduism’s view on premarital sex is rooted in its concept of the stages of life. The first of these stages, known as brahmacharya, roughly translates as chastity. Celibacy is considered the appropriate behavior for both male and female students during this stage, which precedes the stage of the married householder. Many Sadhus (Hindu monks) are also celibate as part of their ascetic discipline. In classical Hinduism, sexual intercourse was seen as a sacred act of procreation- within marriage.

Jainism: Although the Digambara followers of Jainism are celibate monks, most Jains belong to the Shvetambara sect, which allows spouses and children. The general Jain code of ethics requires that one do no harm to any living being in thought, action, or word. Adultery is clearly a violation of a moral agreement with one’s spouse, and therefore forbidden, and fornication too is seen as a violation of the state of chastity.

Buddhism: The teachings of Buddhism include the noble eightfold path, comprising a division called right action. For laymen this involves abstaining from sexual misconduct, and for monks strict chastity.


28 posted on 08/18/2010 1:53:50 AM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: Slings and Arrows
Don't know about Helen Thomas, but probably lots of US surgeons would like to go there after obama-care is fully implemented, to practice medicine after they learn they can make $1,500/hour in China, or minimum wage in the US.
29 posted on 08/18/2010 2:32:37 AM PDT by tdscpa
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To: Slings and Arrows

Soon, to join her true love and soul mate, G. $oros. A marriage made in Jew-self-hating hell.


30 posted on 08/18/2010 6:24:39 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: ReneeLynn

Don’t know much about Chinese wedding traditions, do you?


31 posted on 08/18/2010 6:30:03 AM PDT by mainsail that ("A man will fight harder for his interests than for his rights" - Napoleon Bonaparte)
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To: mainsail that

Yes, I do. This is now. I meant what I said.


33 posted on 08/18/2010 10:03:18 AM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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To: martin_fierro

Love Knot ping. It’s so sweet, it’s like fakin’ it.


34 posted on 08/18/2010 9:13:58 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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