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Heavy Drinkers Outlive Nondrinkers, Study Finds
Yahoo news ^ | 08/30/2010 | John Cloud

Posted on 08/30/2010 9:01:55 AM PDT by Frenchtown Dan

One of the most contentious issues in the vast literature about alcohol consumption has been the consistent finding that those who don't drink actually tend to die sooner than those who do. The standard Alcoholics Anonymous explanation for this finding is that many of those who show up as abstainers in such research are actually former hard-core drunks who had already incurred health problems associated with drinking.

But a new paper in the journal Alcoholism: Clinical and Experimental Research suggests that - for reasons that aren't entirely clear - abstaining from alcohol does actually tend to increase one's risk of dying even when you exclude former drinkers. The most shocking part? Abstainers' mortality rates are higher than those of heavy drinkers. (See pictures of booze under a microscope.)

Moderate drinking, which is defined as one to three drinks per day, is associated with the lowest mortality rates in alcohol studies. Moderate alcohol use (especially when the beverage of choice is red wine) is thought to improve heart health, circulation and sociability, which can be important because people who are isolated don't have as many family members and friends who can notice and help treat health problems.

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TOPICS: Food; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: alcohol; health
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I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.
1 posted on 08/30/2010 9:01:56 AM PDT by Frenchtown Dan
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To: Frenchtown Dan

Pickling!


2 posted on 08/30/2010 9:02:55 AM PDT by WellyP
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To: Frenchtown Dan

3 posted on 08/30/2010 9:04:04 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Frenchtown Dan

Yeah, sure. That has to explain why my alcoholic youngest brother died at age 50. No problem with moderate drinking but I’ve known too many dead or dying alcoholics.


4 posted on 08/30/2010 9:05:19 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Frenchtown Dan
Moderate alcohol use (especially when the beverage of choice is red wine) is thought to improve heart health, circulation and sociability ...

In which case I should be around for a long, long time.

5 posted on 08/30/2010 9:07:15 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: Frenchtown Dan

Just reading this makes me thirsty.


6 posted on 08/30/2010 9:07:21 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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Woo Hoo!
I’ll drink to that!


7 posted on 08/30/2010 9:07:52 AM PDT by loungitude ( The truth hurts.)
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To: Frenchtown Dan

Vindication!


8 posted on 08/30/2010 9:07:54 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: Frenchtown Dan

“Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy” ~ Benjamin Franklin

“sharia law is proof that allah hates us and wants us to be miserable.” ~ nully


9 posted on 08/30/2010 9:09:02 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 583 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Frenchtown Dan
I'm not going to dispute their findings, but if I were to take up drinking, after 23 years of sobriety, maybe there's a chance I could live longer- but there's also a greater chance I might kill a few people, too.

I'd gladly sacrifice a few extra years of hell, in exchange for the way of life I have now.

10 posted on 08/30/2010 9:10:32 AM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment (Is this field required?)
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To: Frenchtown Dan
Moderate alcohol use (especially when the beverage of choice is red wine) is thought to improve .... sociability

Now theres a thought.

11 posted on 08/30/2010 9:10:56 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: null and void

Two of my favorite lines!


12 posted on 08/30/2010 9:10:57 AM PDT by Frenchtown Dan
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To: ClearCase_guy

Guinness = the drink of champions!


13 posted on 08/30/2010 9:12:23 AM PDT by Frenchtown Dan
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To: Frenchtown Dan; mylife

+---------ShinerCare---------+

14 posted on 08/30/2010 9:15:30 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

Just don’t drink and drive, or hunt while intoxicated, and you won’t have to worry about killing anyone.

Forget about Hell, that’s not just for a few years, that’s for eternity.

Cheers!


15 posted on 08/30/2010 9:15:40 AM PDT by Frenchtown Dan
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To: ClearCase_guy

“Guinness is good for you”


16 posted on 08/30/2010 9:16:49 AM PDT by TheOldLady (Pablo is very wily.)
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To: Frenchtown Dan

Happy Days (clink)!!


17 posted on 08/30/2010 9:17:38 AM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: Frenchtown Dan

The Bible says, a little wine for your stomach’s sake.


18 posted on 08/30/2010 9:18:00 AM PDT by politicalmerc (I can see November from my house; can you?)
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To: RJS1950

Sorry about your brother - the two heaviest drinkers I’ve known died in their late 40’s. Fatal liver damage.


19 posted on 08/30/2010 9:19:02 AM PDT by dainbramaged (If you want a friend, get a dog.)
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To: EnquiringMind

And to you (clink)!

My favorite drinks are smoky Islay malts like Caol Ila and Laphroaig, and I have one drink nearly every day.


20 posted on 08/30/2010 9:19:59 AM PDT by TheOldLady (Pablo is very wily.)
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To: Frenchtown Dan

A drink every few days, or maybe even 1 a day helps relieve stress, prevent depression, etc. These other ailments all cause hypertension, heart disease, and possibly even cancer.

Tea-totalling Mormons, do however, live long as a group, despite higher incidence of depression.


21 posted on 08/30/2010 9:20:29 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Frenchtown Dan
One important reason is that alcohol lubricates so many social interactions, and social interactions are vital for maintaining mental and physical health.

LOL. And we all know how much fun it is to be around someone who is three sheets to the wind. I find this study hard to believe. What is the definition of a "heavy drinker"? Does that include hard core alcoholics? If so it isn't right. A long period of "heavy" drinking really beats up the body. Alcohol, while good in moderation, ultimately is a poison.

22 posted on 08/30/2010 9:20:51 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard
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To: dangus

A glass of red wine a day. It’s a little pricey, but man is it relaxing in the evening.


23 posted on 08/30/2010 9:21:52 AM PDT by November 2010
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To: Liberty Valance

Shiners is a pretty good brew, havn’t had any in years, wish I could buy some around these parts.


24 posted on 08/30/2010 9:22:31 AM PDT by Frenchtown Dan
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To: Frenchtown Dan

Pickles last longer than cucumbers.


25 posted on 08/30/2010 9:25:54 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Frenchtown Dan

Yippeeeeeeeeee!!!!


26 posted on 08/30/2010 9:26:02 AM PDT by A Texan (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: Frenchtown Dan

“Guinness = the drink of champions!”

The day after Passover, my wife and I drink a Guinness (or a black and tan for her, and I have the rest of her Bass), a Boddingtons Pub ale, and a split of Moet Chandon Champagne (typically in reverse order of what I listed).


27 posted on 08/30/2010 9:26:14 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

You know, I agree with you.

I sometimes don’t drink for days, other days a couple of beers, and some days I don’t count.

But all in all, I cannot believe that constant heavy drinking is good for anyone. Ans as far as that goes, I don’t think that doing anything to extreme is good either.


28 posted on 08/30/2010 9:27:50 AM PDT by Frenchtown Dan
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To: BluH2o

“Moderate alcohol use (especially when the beverage of choice is red wine) is thought to improve heart health, circulation and sociability”

Strangely, it results in my wife and I having daughters.

It may be the death of us, yet.


29 posted on 08/30/2010 9:28:34 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: TheOldLady

When my mother was pregnant with me in 1950, she drank a bottle or two of Guinness or other dark beer almost every day. She said it helped her a lot, and she didn’t get morning sickness like she did with my older sister.


30 posted on 08/30/2010 9:31:15 AM PDT by Frenchtown Dan
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To: Jewbacca

I like your beverage menu!


31 posted on 08/30/2010 9:32:53 AM PDT by Frenchtown Dan
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To: Mister Da

They sure do, and so do green tomatoes!


32 posted on 08/30/2010 9:34:38 AM PDT by Frenchtown Dan
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To: 1rudeboy

Good news!!!


33 posted on 08/30/2010 9:34:59 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Frenchtown Dan

Do I get bonus years if I drink a lot more?


34 posted on 08/30/2010 9:35:31 AM PDT by A Texan (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: Frenchtown Dan

Yes, drinking moderately is not harmful to anyone. This “not a single drop of alcohol from sex to the delivery room” is a recent liberal belief, and it is just another way to torture us.


35 posted on 08/30/2010 9:36:32 AM PDT by TheOldLady (Pablo is very wily.)
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To: A Texan

Only if you pass the jug around.


36 posted on 08/30/2010 9:36:38 AM PDT by Frenchtown Dan
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To: Nonstatist
Just reading this makes me thirsty.

Me too (staring at clock ...)

Oh what the hell, it's close enough to 12:00, time for a Blue Moon!

37 posted on 08/30/2010 9:36:38 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

Phooey!

I have to wait until I get home. Won’t be till 5:00, and I could use a cold one.

I hate Mondays!


38 posted on 08/30/2010 9:39:04 AM PDT by Frenchtown Dan
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To: Frenchtown Dan

39 posted on 08/30/2010 9:40:28 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: TheOldLady

And they are very good at torture, aren’t they!


40 posted on 08/30/2010 9:42:14 AM PDT by Frenchtown Dan
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To: RJS1950

“Yeah, sure. That has to explain why my alcoholic youngest brother died at age 50. No problem with moderate drinking but I?ve known too many dead or dying alcoholics.”

Yep. How many 85 year old hardcore drunks do you know? Alcohol kills the mind, body, and spirit.


41 posted on 08/30/2010 9:43:12 AM PDT by goseminoles
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

There is such a thing as being a social drinker. It is possible to go out and drink just enough to be more talkative and not be three sheets. There is a definite line. And there is no hard and fast rule for anyone. Lots of things can go into how much is too much. What you are drinking, mood, demeanor in general. Some people can drink a ton and just start talking to everyone, some people drink and punch windows.


42 posted on 08/30/2010 9:43:32 AM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: Frenchtown Dan
or hunt while intoxicated,

Or handle firearms in any manner while drunk.

43 posted on 08/30/2010 9:47:25 AM PDT by calex59
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I have to wait until I get home. Won’t be till 5:00, and I could use a cold one.

I called in sick today. Not that I really am, but working 65 hours last week and over the weekend really wiped me out. Time to re-charge.

And thank God I live in CST, where I don't have to feel guilty popping my 2nd beer at 11:39am. After this one, I'm going to take a nap.

44 posted on 08/30/2010 9:47:47 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

No problem, ladies!
I’ll opt for the liquor!


45 posted on 08/30/2010 9:49:38 AM PDT by Frenchtown Dan
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To: null and void
“Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy” ~ Benjamin Franklin

Franklin disliked beer and mocked beer drinkers. The real quote concerned wine.

46 posted on 08/30/2010 9:49:41 AM PDT by FateAmenableToChange
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To: FateAmenableToChange

But the message is the same.


47 posted on 08/30/2010 9:51:30 AM PDT by Frenchtown Dan
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To: Frenchtown Dan

In all things, moderation.


48 posted on 08/30/2010 9:51:33 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

I’m sure there were no men lined up waiting to kiss any of those sour faced looking women, with or without booze.


49 posted on 08/30/2010 9:52:14 AM PDT by calex59
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Can I get that in writing from each of you ladies?


50 posted on 08/30/2010 9:53:12 AM PDT by SAJ (Zerobama -- a phony and a prick, therefore a dildo.)
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