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God did not create the universe, says Hawking
Reuters ^ | Thu Sep 2, | Michael Holden

Posted on 09/02/2010 2:40:29 PM PDT by WhatNot

LONDON (Reuters) – God did not create the universe and the "Big Bang" was an inevitable consequence of the laws of physics, the eminent British theoretical physicist Stephen Hawking argues in a new book.

In "The Grand Design," co-authored with U.S. physicist Leonard Mlodinow, Hawking says a new series of theories made a creator of the universe redundant, according to the Times newspaper which published extracts on Thursday.


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TOPICS: Humor; Miscellaneous; Religion; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: fools; scientism; stephenhawking
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If there's a better example of "Professing themselves to be wise they become fools" you would be hard pressed to find it.
1 posted on 09/02/2010 2:40:32 PM PDT by WhatNot
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To: WhatNot

Ignorant arrogance at its best.


2 posted on 09/02/2010 2:41:12 PM PDT by Gaffer ("Profiling: The only profile I need is a chalk outline around their dead ass!")
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To: Gaffer

Wouldn’t you all love to be there when he arrives for the reading of names from the Book of Life?


3 posted on 09/02/2010 2:42:44 PM PDT by Paul46360
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To: WhatNot

And who created the laws of physics?


4 posted on 09/02/2010 2:43:51 PM PDT by Weird Tolkienish Figure
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To: WhatNot

Old news.

I wonder if he believe HE created it all.

Rom.1:22

[22] Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,


5 posted on 09/02/2010 2:44:15 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: WhatNot

Okay Steve, who created the laws of physics? Or did they just write themselves?


6 posted on 09/02/2010 2:44:28 PM PDT by Argus
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To: Paul46360

Well, I guess that I’d say that I, if I were there to hear the names, would lament for his lost soul....


7 posted on 09/02/2010 2:44:29 PM PDT by Gaffer ("Profiling: The only profile I need is a chalk outline around their dead ass!")
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To: WhatNot

God is dead
- Nietzsche


8 posted on 09/02/2010 2:44:45 PM PDT by traumer
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To: WhatNot
God did not create the universe, says Hawking

Hawking was not there and does not know what he is talking about, says God.

9 posted on 09/02/2010 2:45:27 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (This is beyond the scope of science.)
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To: Gaffer

Full circle, from gifted to...


10 posted on 09/02/2010 2:45:27 PM PDT by captain anode (78% of us FREEPERS could practice better manners.)
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To: Paul46360

We won’t be spending eternity with this arrogant, nitwit.

He’ll be gnashing his teeth in defiance.


11 posted on 09/02/2010 2:45:51 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: traumer

Nietzsche is dead.
-God


12 posted on 09/02/2010 2:46:26 PM PDT by wyokostur
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To: WhatNot
LONDON (Reuters) – God did not create the universe and the "Big Bang" was an inevitable consequence of the laws of physics, the eminent British theoretical physicist Stephen Hawking argues in a new book.

The "Big Bang(TM)" idea is bad physics and bad theology rolled into a package. Having all the mass of the universe collapsed to a point would be the mother of all black holes; nothing would ever "bang" its way out of that. Likewise for a supposedly omniscient and omnipotent God to suddenly decide it would be cool to create a universe, 6K or 17B years ago it doesn't matter, while the idea had never occurred to him previously, is basically idiotic.

13 posted on 09/02/2010 2:46:50 PM PDT by wendy1946
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To: traumer

Nietzsche is dead
- God


14 posted on 09/02/2010 2:46:50 PM PDT by MaryFromMichigan
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To: traumer
God is dead
- Nietzsche

Nietzsche is dead.
-- God

15 posted on 09/02/2010 2:47:00 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (This is beyond the scope of science.)
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To: WhatNot

What a waste of a brilliant mind.


16 posted on 09/02/2010 2:47:21 PM PDT by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: captain anode

Likely falling back on what he’s best at deducing couple with a huge dose of anger at his condition and why a “God” would do this to him. It’s a pitiful result.......


17 posted on 09/02/2010 2:47:39 PM PDT by Gaffer ("Profiling: The only profile I need is a chalk outline around their dead ass!")
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To: MaryFromMichigan

Ten seconds! GMTA!


18 posted on 09/02/2010 2:47:43 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (This is beyond the scope of science.)
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To: Weird Tolkienish Figure

Hawking may not know that, but I know that if Obama could break them he would.


19 posted on 09/02/2010 2:47:46 PM PDT by WhatNot (God Bless our troops, especially the snipers.)
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To: Gaffer

Well I don’t believe that lamenting is possible, for there is only rejoicing, no tears.


20 posted on 09/02/2010 2:48:57 PM PDT by Paul46360
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To: traumer

Nietzche is dead
-God


21 posted on 09/02/2010 2:49:44 PM PDT by Paul46360
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To: WhatNot

Proof, Hawking, where’s your proof?


22 posted on 09/02/2010 2:49:51 PM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: Argus
Sir Issac Newton is generally considered to be the founder of "Natural Law" which was the foundation of the laws of modern physics.

Newton invented an entire new area of mathematics (calculus) to describe and write his observations of the physical world.

23 posted on 09/02/2010 2:50:23 PM PDT by Republican Extremist
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To: MaryFromMichigan

great minds think alike


24 posted on 09/02/2010 2:51:25 PM PDT by Paul46360
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To: WhatNot

God did not create “man made global warming” either. So has Hawking admitted science is a politically and socially corrupt by gov. money? Much of it is. More than most would ever dream. Work at NIH for a decade...


25 posted on 09/02/2010 2:51:29 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Paul46360

Okay, I see, you’re talking about ‘up there’......I’d say, then, if you can’t ‘lament’ down here, how can you rejoice ‘up there’?


26 posted on 09/02/2010 2:51:54 PM PDT by Gaffer ("Profiling: The only profile I need is a chalk outline around their dead ass!")
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To: WhatNot

If there’s a better example of “Professing themselves to be wise they become fools” you would be hard pressed to find it.

I’d nominate Obama, however...


27 posted on 09/02/2010 2:51:55 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: WhatNot

Ok then, well where did mommy and daddy atoms come from that exploded into all this?


28 posted on 09/02/2010 2:52:04 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("I Belive In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice - and I'm still Molly Norris")
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To: WhatNot

The “big bang” was supposed to be the beginning of it all, so the “big bang” can not be a consequence of anything.


29 posted on 09/02/2010 2:52:42 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Annoying liberals is my goal. I will not be silenced.)
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To: WhatNot

Inevitable consequence of physics? So who created the original matter/energy of the big bang?


30 posted on 09/02/2010 2:53:25 PM PDT by Hoodat (.For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: Ev Reeman

He almost had the proof, but then he ran out of chalk. (I know that’s a comment in bad taste :)


31 posted on 09/02/2010 2:54:00 PM PDT by WhatNot (God Bless our troops, especially the snipers.)
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To: WhatNot

This stuff is complicated and inscrutable; how would any mortal be able to refute or confirm it?

What if he said, “The universe came into being because two squirrels stood too close to each other, their tails caught on fire, and poof the Big Bang happened. Double-check the math and it’ll prove it’s true”.

Who’s going to go up to him and say, “Oops Mr. Hawking, you accidentally divided everything by zero and it played havoc with the rest of the equation”.

The reality is he can say anything he wants, however faith-based it may or may not be, and the world will take him seriously.

Until someone smarter than he is comes along and checks the math and discovers that he really did divide everything by zero.


32 posted on 09/02/2010 2:54:47 PM PDT by JusPasenThru (Why won't those knuckle-dragging tea-bagging right-wing bastards just negotiate with me?)
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To: wyokostur; WhatNot

Zed’s dead.
-Butch Coolidge


33 posted on 09/02/2010 2:55:01 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: WhatNot

The beauty of this most fundamental of arguments, is that supremely educated, celebrated astrophysicist Stephen Hawking has as much credibility as does the nearest illiterate ditch digger.

Just the way God intended.....


34 posted on 09/02/2010 2:55:26 PM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: WhatNot

Pity Steve. You could have shed that body and had a perfect eternal body at death. Now you’ll prolly be stuck in that chair in a sweltering heat for all eternity. Theres still time though.


35 posted on 09/02/2010 2:56:49 PM PDT by Dewey Revoltnow (Worst. Community. Agitator. Ever!)
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To: WhatNot
Exactly. Who says something like this but someone with a super ego.

"For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understoond by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse'" Romans 1:20

36 posted on 09/02/2010 2:57:03 PM PDT by Boxsford ("Arrogance exalts human superiority while true strength exalts the superiority of God. ")
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To: bigbob

I’ll second that nomination


37 posted on 09/02/2010 2:57:18 PM PDT by WhatNot (God Bless our troops, especially the snipers.)
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To: WhatNot
The Final Question was "Can Entropy be Reversed?"

When the Universe began to unwind Multivac carried humanity into another dimension and pondered the "Final Question?"

At last Multivac knew the answer and proclaimed,

LET THERE BE LIGHT!

38 posted on 09/02/2010 2:57:48 PM PDT by Young Werther ("Quae cum ita sunt" Since these things are so!)
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To: WhatNot

*If there’s a better example of “Professing themselves to be wise they become fools” you would be hard pressed to find it.*

My headline says:

Hawking does not know as Much About the Universe as I do,says God


39 posted on 09/02/2010 2:57:55 PM PDT by PATRIOT1876 (Language, Borders, Culture, Full employment for those here legally)
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To: Paul46360
Wouldn’t you all love to be there when he arrives for the reading of names from the Book of Life?

It's sad actually. He'll go kicking and screaming into the Lake of Fire. Well maybe not kicking.
40 posted on 09/02/2010 2:58:40 PM PDT by Dewey Revoltnow (Worst. Community. Agitator. Ever!)
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To: Weird Tolkienish Figure

Nobody. They have always existed.


41 posted on 09/02/2010 3:07:01 PM PDT by rahbert
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To: Argus
I love how atheist use creator terminology to get their point across, the name of his book is “The Grand Design. In my world view A Grand Design would imply a Grand Designer, or a Grand Intellect. I guess his book is all about how the title of his book is erroneous.
42 posted on 09/02/2010 3:07:31 PM PDT by WhatNot (God Bless our troops, especially the snipers.)
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To: samtheman
He's dead, Jim.
- Bones

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

43 posted on 09/02/2010 3:07:39 PM PDT by wku man (Steel yourselves, patriots, and be ready. Won't be long now....)
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To: WhatNot

We get it, Stephen. You don’t believe in God and you have a theory that you have dressed up as a fact to disprove his existence. And how does that distinguish you from millions of other atheists?


44 posted on 09/02/2010 3:15:05 PM PDT by chuckee
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To: WhatNot
I was just looking at a flower similar to this an hour ago:
Hawking thinks this is just some random happenstance. I think Hawking is nuts.

ML/NJ

45 posted on 09/02/2010 3:18:36 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj

can you repost the pic


46 posted on 09/02/2010 3:20:47 PM PDT by WhatNot (God Bless our troops, especially the snipers.)
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To: Paul46360
Wouldn’t you all love to be there when he arrives for the reading of names from the Book of Life?

No, why would you want to rejoice in the consequences of unbelief?

47 posted on 09/02/2010 3:22:44 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: WhatNot

The term “Grand Design” was from Albert Einstein who attributed the unknown workings of the universe to a creator. Hawking’s book uses the phrase as a turn of the word to reveal what has been discovered since Einstein proclaimed “God does not play dice” to voice his disagreement with Quantum Theory... which was later proven to be accurate, and Einstein wrong.


48 posted on 09/02/2010 3:23:18 PM PDT by Republican Extremist
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To: chuckee

Just another godless liberal.


49 posted on 09/02/2010 3:29:01 PM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: WhatNot

So you go back to the “original, original, original “spark” for this thing” called creation. Uh, what caused the spark? I love it when science uses “logic” to try to “unprove” a higher unprovable deity. They, themselves fall right into the very trap they build. Who cares what Mr Hawking thinks? I’m the only one that counts on this issue. :-)


50 posted on 09/02/2010 3:30:54 PM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (If you aren't at Obama's Table, you are probably on the MENU! - The Patriot's Flag)
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