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Spokane deputy in fatal shooting went on vacation (Axe To Grind Alert!)
AP ^ | 9/2/2010 | no byline

Posted on 09/02/2010 9:06:55 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man

Pretty sure I can't postAP stuff cut and paste.

Click the source URL for the story page.

The jist of it is a 74 year old guy was working in his Plant Farm business, and believed there was a prowler in the parking lot. It was this deputy and the deputy shot him dead. The sheriff allowed the deputy to go on vacation for a week before being interviewed by the department about the shooting.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: cop; doublestandard; fatality; sooting
It would be nice to be given such consideration to get your head together for a few days when a regular citizen has to defend themselves with a firearm. Why the officer felt he had to kill this guy is another great question in a line fo great questions.
1 posted on 09/02/2010 9:06:59 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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To: Secret Agent Man

There excuse for allowing him to go on vacation before being interviewed was he had already scheduled it and had nonrefundable deposits on reservations...


2 posted on 09/02/2010 9:09:53 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: Secret Agent Man

This one stinks to high Heaven. I doubt that the officer went there to kill the Pastor, though I don’t know, but it sounds like the cop screwed up from the time he entered the parking lot next to the guy’s house and business.


3 posted on 09/02/2010 9:17:22 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I keep telling people that Washington is one to the most corrupt states in the country. The only difference is that those with connections never get prosecuted.

As a matter of fact, there has never been a judge in a court of record prosecuted for a corruption related offense - NEVER in the history of the state. Based on personal knowledge, it isn’t because thare aren’t corrupt judges.

At least there are some public corruption cases prosecuted in most other states.

Th state of Washington has the most corrupt state supreme court in the country.


4 posted on 09/02/2010 9:17:38 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

I am sure the police would be as concerned for the rest of us if we had shot a man in his own parking lot.
Oh Sure, Mr. Colvin, Please leave town as you had reservations!


5 posted on 09/02/2010 9:22:02 PM PDT by Colvin (Proud Owner '66 Binder PU, '66 Binder Travelall,)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Oh, well, of course than. Non-refunable deposits! It was a no brainer than....Unreal. This guy should be in a cell.


6 posted on 09/02/2010 9:23:07 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: Secret Agent Man

The state of Washington had a Rodney King type case. The only difference was that the guy in Washington did nothing wrong, but was convicted of resisting arrest when he tried to protect himself while the cops were beating the crap out of him so badly the jail nurse ordered him to be taken to the hospital. His traffic violatio nwas dismissed but he was still convicted of resisting arrest.

Go to: http://www.mrsc.org/wa/courts/index_dtSearch.html

and do a search for: 132 Wn.2d 1, STATE v. VALENTINE

It is sickening what happened to this innocent man, but at least he lived through it. BTW, it also happened in Spokane, WA.


7 posted on 09/02/2010 9:26:28 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Eagles6

The guy wasn’t a pastor. He owned a Plant business.


8 posted on 09/02/2010 9:31:26 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
He was a farmer and also a Baptist pastor.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2578523/posts

9 posted on 09/02/2010 9:35:32 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Sometimes a guy needs a little time to make something up.


10 posted on 09/02/2010 9:41:11 PM PDT by cydcharisse (`)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I have never been a cop but I have been a first and second line manager in Very Large Utility. When you have an incident; Day One: Interview everyone involved, look for inconsistencies. Day Two: Re interview everyone involved based on inconsistency’s. Day Three: Winnow out and re-interview the probable perps, write, write, write, talk, talk, talk.


11 posted on 09/02/2010 9:41:38 PM PDT by Little Bill (`-)
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To: cydcharisse

Actually I don’t fault police for waiting a day or two to interview an officer after a shooting. It’s shell shock/PTSD kind of stuff, time slows down, etc. your brain needs time to get over that and remember things clearly. That’s why they wait a day or two before they interview cops involved in incidents.

I wish they extended that courtesy (common sense one, it is) to civillians who go through the same shell shock/PTSD stuff, but instead of giving them time to remember rightly, they want to press them into making statements - then they get into trouble when they remember clearly a day or two later and cops then tell them they are lying and made false statements to police.

That is why if you are ever involved in a defensive shooting, you identify yourself as the victim (I was attacked), you defended yourself (I stopped the threat), point out where all the evidence is (you might have seen casings or other stuff fly behind something), say you will press charges, and that you will file a formal statement of what happened, AFTER you contact and discuss it with your attorney.

Then do not say anything more than what you’ve said before. Do not start giving more details. You will be in shock (just like a cop would be). He gets a couple days to wind down and remember exactly what happened to recall it properly. Your brain needs that time to decompress and remember everything in the right order and how it happened too. Let your attorney help you make the statement of what happened, and help file the charges against the criminal.


12 posted on 09/02/2010 9:53:03 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

This does stink to high-heaven. He should’ve never been allowed to leave the state/area. What was the “confrontation” that took place? How long was this guy a cop, if this was his beat he should’ve known what the usual goings-on are in that area. Why in the F are city cops investigating this? Where I am at it would be at least state police investigators that have no ties to this city whatsoever.
If it’s cold-blooded murder the deputy should definitely be keelhauled. These guys keep giving the few good cops out there such a bad name........then again, the MSM and Hollywood doesn’t help either.


13 posted on 09/02/2010 10:38:52 PM PDT by brent13a (You're a Great American! NO you're a Great American! NO NO NO YOU'RE a Great American! Nooo.....WTF?)
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Law enforcement in this country is in a downward spiral the speed of which is only exceeded by the downward spiral of our economy


14 posted on 09/02/2010 10:53:41 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: SeaHawkFan

If that had happened to me, I’d be in prison for murder. Those cops would have paid dearly for that.


15 posted on 09/02/2010 11:27:06 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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It's not murder !

The old guy came at the uniformed officer with a gun and got shot by the cop.

There were some prowlers the night before in the area and a neighbor called the police and asked them to do extra patrols.

The police officer was in an unmarked car and when he approached the old man the old man raised his gun and the officer shot him. The rest of the story will come out tomorrow !

The officer doesn't have to talk to anyone per the union contract but he was interviewed today.

16 posted on 09/03/2010 12:04:48 AM PDT by america-rules
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To: america-rules

My reply was about the situation mentioned in post #7.

I know absolutely nothing about the case in the OP except that the department apparently let this guy go on vacation before the matter was investigated.

I am a strong supporter of law enforcement, but there is more and more corruption and “us-against-them” mentality in it all the time.

Some of the worst criminals happen to wear badges.


17 posted on 09/03/2010 2:24:57 AM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: america-rules
the older guy on his own property was checking out an unmarked car late at night.....the guy did not call for police "patrols"....the guy knew nothing of this cop coming around....

the cop says the man was withing "30" feet....now tell me....a trained peace officier who sees an older man walking towards him can't figure out a way to defend himself other than shooting the poor guy in the chest?

what about yelling out..."I'm a cop" or ducking....or even using a taser....or how about shooting at the older guys legs....nope....right in the chest....

you can't even protect your property anymore....you can have unmarked cop cars come sneaking aroud and parking on your own property unannounced...late at night....

something is very wrong with this....very wrong...

18 posted on 09/03/2010 10:33:46 PM PDT by cherry
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