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Weekly Gardening Thread – 2010 (Vol. 31) September 03
Free Republic | 9-03-2010 | Red_Devil 232

Posted on 09/03/2010 5:27:36 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232

Good morning gardeners. We are having beautiful weather here in Central Mississippi. My tomato plants are looking a little scraggly but are thriving and still producing new green tomatoes. I removed my okra plants earlier this week because they were just too huge and some of my pepper plants were craving more sunlight. The pepper plants that have been getting full sun are just loaded with plump peppers.

If you are a gardener or you are just starting out and are in need of advice or just encouragement please feel free to join in and enjoy the friendly discussion. Our Freeper community is full of gardeners, each with varying interests and skill levels from Master Gardener to novice.


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1 posted on 09/03/2010 5:27:39 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler; SunkenCiv; HungarianGypsy; Gabz; billhilly; Alkhin; ...
Ping to the Weekly Gardening Ping List.

I hope all of you will stop by.

This is typically a low volume ping list. Once a week for the thread and every once in a while for other FR threads posted that might be of interest.

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2 posted on 09/03/2010 5:28:22 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Looking at dehydrator plans this morning. I’ve been playing with a little store bought number but its pretty inefficient and I think I can do better.


3 posted on 09/03/2010 5:38:00 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Red_Devil 232
Morning. Not much to report here....Looks like rain...Thank God.
Have been in for some time fighting a system yeast infection and then got bit by a horse fly right in the middle of my back where it's unreachable and unseeable. It turned into an ol fashion carbuncle. Dr lanced it Tuesday said it was an inch wide and five/eighth inch deep....The pain would confirm that. On the mend now....
4 posted on 09/03/2010 5:47:52 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Red_Devil 232
Please add me to the garden ping list.

Thank you for your years of service, loved the pics.

5 posted on 09/03/2010 5:48:10 AM PDT by herewego ( Got .45?)
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To: Red_Devil 232

The tomatoes and zucchini have finally come in in Los Angeles. And the sun. Just reporting in.


6 posted on 09/03/2010 5:49:05 AM PDT by bboop (We don't need no stinkin' VAT)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Same with my peppers. Squash and tomatillos had beat them out, but now they are producing gangbusters. My fall crops are coming up and look healthy. For some reason though, none of my spinach came up. Bad seed I guess.


7 posted on 09/03/2010 5:49:53 AM PDT by doodad
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To: cripplecreek
Have you seen this web site? Living Foods Quality Food Dehydrators
8 posted on 09/03/2010 5:55:43 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: herewego
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9 posted on 09/03/2010 5:59:46 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

That’s kind of the direction I was thinking about going in. I was also thinking about making one out of a 55 gallon drum.

Dehydration is a super efficient means of preserving with minimal work. I might even be able to save some money by making my own doggie treats.


10 posted on 09/03/2010 6:07:05 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Red_Devil 232

Hi gardening freepers,
The mosquitos here (Maryland) are horrible. You have to spray yourself to walk to the mail box. However, I am finding a lot of Fall planting bulbs online with great savings. Many are over 60% off and some are buy one get one free. I plan on ordering a ton of items that I wanted.


11 posted on 09/03/2010 6:11:00 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: Red_Devil 232

Hi gardening freepers,
The mosquitos here (Maryland) are horrible. You have to spray yourself to walk to the mail box. However, I am finding a lot of Fall planting bulbs online with great savings. Many are over 60% off and some are buy one get one free. I plan on ordering a ton of items that I wanted.


12 posted on 09/03/2010 6:11:00 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: cripplecreek

I am interested in their Mini dryer. I don’t have room for anything larger. There are quite a few ideas out there on making your own including plans for building solar dryers. Let me know what direction you take.


13 posted on 09/03/2010 6:18:09 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: bboop

Great to hear y’all are finally getting some sun and a little warmer weather.


14 posted on 09/03/2010 6:31:34 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

I live in WNY..and planted a garden for the first time this year.
( I have had unsuccessful pot tomatoes in the past)

This year the pot tomato did great ...but the ones in my raised garden have produced lots of green tomatoes and they are not riping as well..what is my problem there?

My cucumbers were doing pretty well but I notice what looks like rust spots on some of the leaves..for next year how do I prevent that?

The Japanese beetles decimated my cauliflower ...what do I do next year?

Thanks for any info
!!


15 posted on 09/03/2010 6:33:27 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: momtothree

I wonder if Earl will help or hinder those mosquitos?


16 posted on 09/03/2010 6:34:33 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

please add me to your ping list..thanks


17 posted on 09/03/2010 6:35:17 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Red_Devil 232

The dehydrator I’m using is one that’s been buried in the garage for the past 30 years. Its a RONCO dehydrator and its pretty inefficient but it does give me an idea of how they work.

One of the problems I see is that I need to rotate the racks from top to bottom and the fruit from the outside edges to the inside edges.

I’ll probably go with something large and use a couple of 100 watt bulbs for heat and incorporating a small fan for air circulation might be a good idea.

Over the last few days I’ve dried a few hundred cherry tomato quarters. I vacuum seal them in baggies and put them in the freezer so they should be fine indefinately.


18 posted on 09/03/2010 6:38:38 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Red_Devil 232

Well, so far this season has been a bit of a flop (We have had really cold, wet weather, almost nonstop through the summer and had snow this past week, yikes!).

But I have gotten about a dozen jalepen~os, and a dozen more on the way, and some banana peppers. I’ve had several dozen cherry tomatoes, and about 3-4 dozen roma’s are on the plants. I’ve had 3 bell peppers, and several on the way, as well as a couple cucumbers. All the squash is doing poorly.

All in all, I spent about 65 dollars this year, and I don’t think I’ll get my money’s worth out of it, but the flavor has been great. The onions will be great, and I’m thinking of bringing in some of the tomatoes and growing them indoors, they are in pots.

If anyone has any ideas about how to light them with cfl/shop/incandescent lighting, I’d appreciate the help. I’m thinking if I can keep the potted tomatoes alive until next spring, I might get a bit of a head start. If anyone has any ideas on how best to do that, I’m all ears. Thanks so much.


19 posted on 09/03/2010 6:52:58 AM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: RnMomof7
If you have experienced some temp. extremes like unusually hot or cool weather your tomatoes will shut or slow down the ripening process. As temperatures become more favorable, the ripening process should get back on track. If your potted tomato plant is protected from temp extremes like next to the house or shade that may explain why they ripened sooner.

Those beetles can be controlled with various insecticide products. Be sure to check labels because those sprays can be harmful to beneficial insects.

The spots on your cucumber sounds like it could be a fungal disease. There are commercial fungicides you can buy. If you still have a growing season left you might want to spray your cucumbers as soon as possible. Watering from above and getting the leaves wet can be a cause and also help spread the fungus.

20 posted on 09/03/2010 7:20:24 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

I have lots of pole beans to pick. The weather is turning cold. Frost on the back deck right now. Low last night was 33F.


21 posted on 09/03/2010 7:37:35 AM PDT by MtnClimber (Osama and Obama both hate freedom and have friends that bombed the Pentagon)
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To: RnMomof7
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22 posted on 09/03/2010 7:40:04 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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Good morning to all the gardeners all across the Fruited Plain. We have sunshine early this morning and yesterday was a scorcher with 77 degrees at the weather station on Woodly Island andt it was in the low 80s here on the Vast Bender Estate. Still hoping for some corn but have our doubts.

I did have to set up my impulse sprinkler with the motion detector as a Raccoon has been sampling a few ears. Wife unit found a few store bought potatoes that had sprouted so I spaded up a row and planted 12 hills to see what I will get. Our early crop is done and needs to be dug and stored...


23 posted on 09/03/2010 9:24:16 AM PDT by tubebender (Life is short so drink the good wine first...)
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Good morning to all the gardeners all across the Fruited Plain. We have sunshine early this morning and yesterday was a scorcher with 77 degrees at the weather station on Woodly Island andt it was in the low 80s here on the Vast Bender Estate. Still hoping for some corn but have our doubts.

I did have to set up my impulse sprinkler with the motion detector as a Raccoon has been sampling a few ears. Wife unit found a few store bought potatoes that had sprouted so I spaded up a row and planted 12 hills to see what I will get. Our early crop is done and needs to be dug and stored...


24 posted on 09/03/2010 9:58:13 AM PDT by tubebender (Life is short so drink the good wine first...)
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To: RnMomof7

4 o’clock flowers help with Japanese beetles. The beetles love the taste so much they ignore other nearby plants. But, because 4 o’clocks are poisonous, they wind up eating themselves to death.

Or you can use chickens :p I know someone who keeps a JB scent lure in his chicken coop, he says it cuts down drastically on his feed bill during the summer.


25 posted on 09/03/2010 12:54:10 PM PDT by Ellendra (I'll believe it's a crisis when the people who say it's a crisis, ACT like it's a crisis!)
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To: Ellendra
I had read there was a flower that would kill jananese beetles but could not remember the name. Thanks.

I hope this posts .... geees

26 posted on 09/03/2010 1:53:19 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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Good evening R.D. I have been having a lot of trouble trying to get on this thread today. I guess FR is experiencing difficulties.

We have had 3 days of nice rain this week. Raised bed #2 planted in mid summer has grown like gangbusters as a result. I had given everything a drink of Miracle grow all purpose water soluble last weekend.

The day before the rain, I gave each sq. foot the appropriate dose of slow release all purpose plant food. It is probably too late to really help the corn, but I think everything else will benefit. This bed is I suspect pretty deficient in phosphorus and/or potassium. I plan to bury banana peels, egg shells, and fish meal, in each square after the current crops are harvested.

Vine peaches continue to produce enough for about 2 pies weekly. Most of which I am freezing for use this winter. Cuke processing is finished except for occasional refrigerator pickles.

I put up 55 jars of pickles and relish. Tomatoes are winding down, but I still get Tomato Juice for breakfast, deluxe(tomato added) sandwich for lunch, and sliced tomato for supper.

Hubby's beans are done and the ones I planted after the corn in bed #1 have not bloomed yet. Peas are not doing well in bed #2. I am hoping for a little longer growing season to allow the mid season plantings to finish.

Have been doing a little brainstorming about how I could attach a homemade green house to my lower patio door, so I could continue to have fresh tomatoes, bell peppers, lettuce and spinach during the winter. Hubby is not enthusiastic yet. LOL.

However, I have a breakthrough with corn! After years of adversity to planting corn, he has stated that he may plant corn in his garden. This breakthrough came a few days after I told him that corn will grow around a walnut tree.LOL.

Everyone have a great holiday weekend. God Bless.

27 posted on 09/03/2010 5:10:46 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
Could it be FR is back? Moving a little faster now.

Sounds like your garden has been a success!

28 posted on 09/03/2010 6:13:10 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Well, here I am again. My access went down shortly after I posted. Are you having trouble too?

Yes, I am very happy with our garden results. We have learned a lot. This thread has been especially helpful. I am hoping to take what I have learned this year, and get even better results next year.(Lord willing and the “crick” don’t rise).LOL.

I want to be able to produce enough eventually that we have enough to last all winter.


29 posted on 09/03/2010 9:17:34 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

We are having a warm end to what has been a very mild summer in California. The tomatoes are wonderful!


30 posted on 09/04/2010 12:12:16 AM PDT by Melian ("There is only one tragedy in the end, not to have been a saint." ~L. Bloy)
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That is good ! Glad it has warmed up for y’all.


31 posted on 09/04/2010 12:29:08 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: greeneyes
Yes FR went down around 10 am Central time for me. It was coming and going all day yesterday. Very spotty. I think they lost a couple of servers during the last outage that occured a few months ago. That is why some of the features have not been working. Also why there have been a lot of double postings.

I seem to recall a post by Jim or John explaining that they had something like 8 servers (more??) and FR has been only running on 6. When you run a database driven website like FR you need some really good servers. Dedicated servers are expensive something in the range of $800 - $1000 per month each, leased. I don't know what they cost if you pay cash up front.

32 posted on 09/04/2010 12:46:52 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Well, I sure missed our Friday garden thread. Maybe we’ll have better luck tomorrow.


33 posted on 09/04/2010 12:58:55 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Red_Devil 232
Morning Red. FR seems to be up and running quickly this morning. Thursday was our first real rain since arriving in Tx a month ago. Don't know the official count, but I guessed about an inch over several hours.

Still haven't found a local produce market here, still having to buy from the grocery stores, and boy are they expensive after being used to having a really great market back in the old country.

34 posted on 09/04/2010 4:57:06 AM PDT by rightly_dividing
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To: cripplecreek
I need to rotate the racks from top to bottom and the fruit from the outside edges to the inside edges.

I have two dehydrator's I use. One is the old standard, the other is a new version with the heat blown in from the top. The one with the air from the top needs no rotating of the food item.
If anyone is considering purchasing a new Dehydrator I suggest you purchase the one with the heat from the top of the machine.

35 posted on 09/04/2010 5:01:22 AM PDT by buck61
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To: Red_Devil 232
Thanks for The Gardening Thread.
Please add me to your PING list.
36 posted on 09/04/2010 5:06:46 AM PDT by buck61
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To: rightly_dividing
Try here, Highway 290 E Hempstead
37 posted on 09/04/2010 5:11:04 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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38 posted on 09/04/2010 5:30:09 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Thanks for the link. Wife wants to go there NOW!


39 posted on 09/04/2010 6:08:06 AM PDT by rightly_dividing
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To: rightly_dividing

Their watermelons look delicious!


40 posted on 09/04/2010 7:21:31 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: greeneyes; Red_Devil 232

Yes. I had trouble all day yesterday. I could get FR, but I could not get to the page of pings to me. Every time I went to a second level on FR, I’d get an error message. I figured that everyone was having trouble because the number of replies on most of the threads was very low.

I turned cold overnight Thursday night and daytime temps dropped from the mid 80s to 60. It was only 50 degrees when I got up this AM. I think that is a signal to clear out the beds and get them ready for snow.

I still plan to plant peas in the bed where the corn was. Even if I don’t get a crop, it’ll be good for the soil, I think.


41 posted on 09/04/2010 7:25:35 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Southeast Wisconsin, Zone 4 to 5)
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To: rightly_dividing

If y’all go please let us know what it was like.


42 posted on 09/04/2010 7:28:07 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Ellendra

Ohhhh I l I used to have 4 oclocks where I used to live.. I will remember this ..I hope :)


43 posted on 09/04/2010 8:11:21 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Red_Devil 232

Right now i am out of town, I have no idea what the cucumbers will look like when I get home..

Are they a member of the Holly Hock family? The leaves are somewhat similar ???

I hope there is enough left to treat..:)


44 posted on 09/04/2010 8:14:11 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Red_Devil 232

I have been pulling up all the plants in the donated gardening space. Not a single edible cucumber was to be had! I still have the gardening planters by my apartment door. Not enough sun for cukes and tomatoes but herbs, lettuce, spinach, arugula and swiss chard will grow very well.


45 posted on 09/04/2010 9:07:16 AM PDT by tob2 (I would rather have a nuclear power plant in my backyard than Gitmo detainees.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

We went to the market in Hempstead. It was a big place, produce, garden center, feed store, flower shop, and BBQ, all under one roof. Prices varied, some things priced by the lb. rather than by each that we are used to. I didn’t know if .89lb. was good for cukes or not. Same with lemons by the lb. But we bought a good bit of stuff, they had the biggest yellow squash that I had ever seen, about 16-18 inches long. It was an interesting trip, and a nice drive through the Texas countryside.


46 posted on 09/04/2010 12:17:27 PM PDT by rightly_dividing
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To: rightly_dividing
I haven't tried and of the farms on this list yet, but I am sure going to.
47 posted on 09/04/2010 12:22:23 PM PDT by Darth Reardon (After reading McCollum's "concession" speech, I want my primary vote back.)
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To: Darth Reardon
The Pick Your Own site is a good one to visit. They have a pretty good section on canning and pickling with most instructions have step by step pictures.
48 posted on 09/04/2010 12:38:58 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Is that Fennel, also spelled Fennil?

49 posted on 09/04/2010 1:00:55 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Southeast Wisconsin, Zone 4 to 5)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

No, that’s First Wookie, sometimes spelled Wooky


50 posted on 09/04/2010 1:02:04 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Greetings Jacques. The revolution is coming)
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