Posted on 09/04/2010 11:33:44 AM PDT by Perdogg
Any moment now, Matt Leinart's tenure with the Arizona Cardinals will officially come to an end.
Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that the Cardinals have told Leinart they're cutting him today. Derek Anderson will be the starter in Arizona, and Max Hall will be the backup.
(Excerpt) Read more at profootballtalk.nbcsports.com ...
Shoulda spent a little less time in the hot tub with the bong.
Good grief I thought this was about a Catholic circumcision! Oh, geez.
" In three preseason games, Leinart is completing 82.6 percent of his passes and has a passer rating of 110.2 with no turnovers.
Anderson has completed 58.5 percent of his preseason passes with two interceptions and a passer rating of 70.2, which is the lowest of the Cards’ four QBs."
Makes no sense to me but maybe that $51,000,000 that they paid him is still hard to swallow.
Yeah, I know Leinhart did not throw it downfield as well as Anderson supposively, but seriously Leinhart’s rating is much better. You have to wonder if this Cardinal staff is a typical Cardinal staff and just rode the back of Warner for a few years and now it is back to 6-10.
I think I read his leadership skills are sorely lacking and he’s got somewhat of a ‘tude. Coach want’s to dump him before it becomes cancerous.
JLS
In normal times I’d say GO Gators beat Bama.
BUT
After watching the Florida Miami (Oh) game today I think they are lucky they didn’t play a few good high school team today.
So I best just Shut my mouth.
Welcome to the Oakland Raiders, Mr. Leinart.
Committment to Excrement
lawl
Well the core of the staff wasn’t considered good enough to take over the Steelers when Cowher left, whatever that tells you.
Al Davis’s new mantra: Just Suck Baby!
Yeah, I am not too impressed with the offense and particularly the play calling today. Brantley looks ok when he throws the ball down the field.
UF needs to get the snaps corrected and I think maybe Robey needs to start at center and move Pouncey to guard. I am not sure what will fix the play calling.
Word is he “lost” the locker room. Few wanted to follow him.
If Anderson isn’t going to help them, will the Cards reach out to Kurt Warner and try to coax him out of the broadcast booth? I know he’s said he’s finished, but they could make him an offer he couldn’t refuse.
Max Hall looked pretty darned good to me in the preseason.
Wow! Not even traded. Talk about a draft bust.
Leinart might have completed passes but they never seemed to be the right passes, he’d go 3 for 3 in a set of downs and not move the sticks. Of course in pre-season it’s the heart that matters more than the stats, and Leinart hasn’t looked like he really wants to be a football player yet in his career.
I agree with you about Max Hall........he’s sharp and let’s hope he has leadership ability. I think he does....Mar
I understand that was the complaint, but a 30 point difference in QB rating is huge. Leinhart was just clearly the better QB in preseason games.
This Cardinal staff did not draft Leinhart. And in the NFL if you did not draft a guy, often it seems you scapegoat him?
Not really. Stats in the pre-season are fairly meaningless, the QB rating over a small sample size is also fairly meaningless (Leinart only has 21 pass attempts, Anderson 34), one big good or big bad play can skew it dramatically. Leinart wasn’t clearly the better QB in the game I watched, he completed lots of passes but they were all short of the marker and resulted in 3 possession of 3 and out, first possession with Anderson they get to the red zone.
Nobody is scapegoating him, he hasn’t gotten a chance to screw anything up to become a scapegoat. They dangled him as trade bait and nobody bit (tells you something right there) so they got rid of him. He’s never performed well, he fumbles, he throws interceptions, he doesn’t move the ball down the field. The Matt Leinart experiment has failed. Maybe somebody will pick him up on the cheap as a backup.
I agree that a small preseason sample can be misleading but looking at those stats:
1. Leinhart had half the number of yards as Anderson, but also half the number of attempts.
2. So they had the same yards per attemmpt, and TDs per attempt.
3. The biggest differences were Andersons’s two pick to Leinhart’s none and Andersons’s 1 sack to Leinhart’s 5.
So which is worse holding the ball too long and taking a sack or throwing a pick? I guess we shall see this season if Anderson can do the job or not, but he better be more productive than he was in the preseason.
I am not trying to say Leinhart is the answer, I am indifferent to him. I am in favor of guys who perform better getting jobs rather than coaches going with the guy with better tools.
He had 2/3 the number of attempts, he’s a full yard and change shorter on yards per average, and he didn’t move the chains, AND he whined to the press.
What’s worse is not moving the chains and taking locker room problems out in public.
If you’re in favor of the guy who performed better getting the job then your pro Anderson getting the job. He moved the chains, that IS the job, Anderson did it, Leinart didn’t.
Not according to the Cardinal’s website
http://www.nfl.com/teams/arizonacardinals/statistics?team=ARI
The way I do arithmetic 28 attempts is half of 56. Perhaps you are confusing attempts, ie plays, with completions, in which case is was 33 for Anderson and 22 for Leinhart and matches your wrong [according to the Cardinal website] two-thirds claim?
A QB’s job like all offensive players is to put points on the board and not make errors that lead to the other guys getting easy scoring opportunities. So it would be interesting to compare their success in drives an starting points. We know one Leinhart drive ended six points. We know that two of Anderson’s ended in 6 points but also two ended in turnovers.
Bama is going to destroy us, sad to say.
Dang ol player pages were cutting off game 1. hitting the more buttons makes things matchup with what you’re saying. But you can still see Leinart’s not getting the job done. most of his yards (84 of his 175) came in game 3 when he went in late in the 2nd vs the second team. In game 1 he’s goes up against the 1st team, 49 yards, 1 passing 1st down. Game 2 against the starters, 28 yard 3 3 and outs. Just plain not getting the job done, which lead to Anderson getting the starts in games 3 and 4 and Leinart being put on the trading block.
Game 3 is really the game that fixes his stats and makes this look at all even:
http://www.nfl.com/players/mattleinart/gamelogs?id=LEI453701
That’s where he gets 84 yards and a 135 QB rating, games 1 and 2 9hist starters) he combines for 77 yards and a rating in the mid 80s. Compare to Anderson’s games as a starter (3 and 4) where he combines for 141 yard and a rating of 110.
Fail & dumped
He could win in Hollywood.
I wonder if his old college coach Pete Carrol thinks he might be worth a shot with the Seahawks as a backup.
Warner is retired. He would be insane now to change that decision. He gave the Cardinals an entire off season to get things straight on the field (unlike the other potential Hall of Fame Quarterback who retired then unretired again). I doubt he has done anything to condition himself to come back to the field.
After the hit Warner took in the playoff game against the Saints, I was glad to hear he retired. My wife went to High School with his wife, and we have been cheering for him for years. He played ball at the local college, and we shop all the time at the HyVee which he stocked.
We are very proud of him, and we are proud of the class in which he handled his retirement. We hope he can make big bucks in broadcasting or in other venture which he tries. He is a wonderful family man. I would be disapointed and concerned if he decided to come back on the field.
Frrom what we saw yesterday, your prediction looks safe.
Who would trade for him? Any team interested isn't going to give up much, if anything for a bust like Leinart. Especially since the can get him for waver fees by being patient.
And give up his "Dancing With The Stars" gig? Why would Kurt want to do that?
The question now becomes who was the bigger bust? Matt Leinart from the 2006 draft? Or JaMelephant Russell from the 2007?
Yep in that case, the coach is right. Some talented QBS simply don’t make it to the NFL. Anyone remember Ryan Leaf? He was selected before Peyton Manning!
Russell is no longer in the league, I believe. At least Leinart got picked up by the Texans.
He got nabbed in a drug bust in Alabama a month or two ago. I don't anticipate an early resumption of his NFL career.
He’s going to end up bankrupt in a couple of years from now.
Just another in a long list of LSU draft busts.
“Anyone remember Ryan Leaf? He was selected before Peyton Manning!”
I didn’t even bother to look this one up. I’m 99.99% certain that Peyton went #1 and Leaf #2 overall. In Leaf’s case, that was 250 positions too high.
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