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Brilliant Freeper Techs. Transfering files and Programs to homeschool computer
10.09.10 | chickensoup

Posted on 09/08/2010 8:15:38 AM PDT by Chickensoup

I have an Acer running Vista. I have to move the files and some of the programsto a Sony running Windows 7. I do not have a file transfer cable. I do have them both on the same wireless box. am I able to transfer? I have followed directions I have found on the internet but I cannot get the computers to see each other's files. Any ideas? Technically I am usually dangerous to myself and others.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: files; transfer

1 posted on 09/08/2010 8:15:41 AM PDT by Chickensoup
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To: Chickensoup

USB stick or burned CD?


2 posted on 09/08/2010 8:17:00 AM PDT by Weird Tolkienish Figure
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To: Chickensoup

USB storage device is good if you have a USB connection.


3 posted on 09/08/2010 8:17:11 AM PDT by deadrock (Liberty is a bitch that needs to be bedded on a mattress of cadavers.)
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To: Chickensoup
Files are easy: just get a thumb drive and copy them over.

Programs have to be installed on the new computer.

4 posted on 09/08/2010 8:17:16 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb

I cannot send them over the network? I burned a cd with some documents yesterday. Be an all week event.


5 posted on 09/08/2010 8:22:21 AM PDT by Chickensoup (There is a group of people who suck off the productive. They make rules then find infractions.)
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To: Chickensoup; rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; JosephW; ...

6 posted on 09/08/2010 8:22:21 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Chickensoup
Get A USB [portable & external] hard drive....

They have a gazillion GB... usually..

Don't use the little "backup" software thereon...
Just copy the folders... into open space on thme HD...

Move them onto the desired location on the new machine.

7 posted on 09/08/2010 8:22:38 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: ShadowAce

Thank you


8 posted on 09/08/2010 8:22:59 AM PDT by Chickensoup (There is a group of people who suck off the productive. They make rules then find infractions.)
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To: ShadowAce

Thank you


9 posted on 09/08/2010 8:22:59 AM PDT by Chickensoup (There is a group of people who suck off the productive. They make rules then find infractions.)
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To: Chickensoup

Easiest is a USB drive 4 Gb should work in most cases

2nd easiest would be to do a windows transfer. This requires a working network where both PCs see each other in the same windows domain AND the directories are marked for sharing

3rd easiest is to down load a FTP client/server software. Filezilla http://filezilla-project.org/ has some good software. This solution requires that you have a working network and that you can reach each other with the FTP ports of TCP/20 and TCP/21

4th easiest is to copy the files to a data DVD and then move the DVD over to the other computer and copy over. Pros for this option include a backup that you can put away but you are limited to the size of the back up.


10 posted on 09/08/2010 8:23:54 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Chickensoup
Forget trying to share folders between systems. It's fraught with problems, unless you know exactly what you are doing.

Just burn them to a CD or copy them to a USB memory stick. Writeable CD's are literally pennies apiece, and uou can get a large USB memory stick for $10 or less.

You won't be able to transfer most programs. They will have to be installed from the original media.

11 posted on 09/08/2010 8:24:12 AM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: Chickensoup

Dropbox should do the trick:

http://www.dropbox.com/


12 posted on 09/08/2010 8:24:18 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: Chickensoup

On a windows machine, you cannot move programs because the OS will write many diverse files to many unusual locations. You can only move documents. Sadly, while Windows usually keeps most of their documents in the My Documents folder, many of the 3rd party programs do not and create their own directories. You are expected to know what programs you have and where those programs store any files or settings you wish to keep.

They do NOT make it easy and there is NO “Program” that will actually do it for you. Most will take your money and then you will LOSE many files trusting it.

The best thing to do is, network the two PCs the normal way you connect to the net, and then go to your security settings and choose “SHARE” the ENTIRE “C” drive.

That is not something you will want to LEAVE that way, so be sure to turn it OFF when you are totally done.

But if you SHARE ALL, then you can see all, and drag and drop more easily.

You will ALSO want to go to your FILE settings and tell it to SHOW ALL. Since Windows likes to hide some file extensions.

This way you can intelligently pick and choose what FILES to move.

To get all your programs back, you need to freshly reinstall them. You either have the original disks or files stored somewhere or you will have to download them again on the NEW PC and reinstall.

-— Now for the “other” way -—

Buy a new MAC. Apple employees who have moved MILLIONS of users from PC to Mac will move all these items FOR FREE if you buy a new Mac.

You can also RUN Windows on a Mac if you have some unusual programs for which their are no Mac equivalents (very rare these days).

I know you say you just bought a new Sony, but you COULD return it if you haven’t had it more than 15-30 days usually.

In any case, I wish you good luck. Moving data on a PC is not a fun or easy or fast experience.


13 posted on 09/08/2010 8:25:13 AM PDT by RachelFaith (2010 is going to be a 100 seat Tsunami - Welcome to "The Hunt for Red November".)
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To: r9etb

you may have firewall enabled which would prevent windows file sharing.

You could email the files to yourself then logon from the different computer, If the files are many then you could use winzip and attach the .zip in email them to yourself. You may have to give it a different extension than .zip for the email then rename it later

Or, you could use http://filezilla-project.org/


14 posted on 09/08/2010 8:25:20 AM PDT by updatedscreenname
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To: Wings-n-Wind

I have a Maxtor backup at work and i found that it was not really backing anything up.

So I have my doubts.


15 posted on 09/08/2010 8:25:20 AM PDT by Chickensoup (There is a group of people who suck off the productive. They make rules then find infractions.)
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To: Chickensoup

Wireless will be too slow if you have hundreds of gigabites of files. A direct cable to cable connection between computers will be much faster but you have to set up a network. I use an external usb disk drive enclosure and remove the drive from the old computer. Put it into the usb enclosure and plug it into a usb port on the new computer. It should be recognized as an external drive by the new computer. Then you can transfer the files from the old drive onto the new one very quickly. The usb enclosures cost ~$10.


16 posted on 09/08/2010 8:28:15 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: RachelFaith

when you say network the two pcs the normal way exactly what do you mean? Both computers can see each other on a network map but they cannot see each others files although I have unblocked them with a work setting and share files is checked.


17 posted on 09/08/2010 8:29:10 AM PDT by Chickensoup (There is a group of people who suck off the productive. They make rules then find infractions.)
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To: Chickensoup

Where [computername] equals the name of computer1, from computer2 type into the file explorer (without the brackets):

\\[computername]\c$

If you get a password prompt enter an administrator user name and password (probably the one you use now) from computer1.

What happens when you do that? If you get a file listing of computer1’s C drive, just go to “Documents and Settings\[username]” for your documents.

Don’t try transfering programs, it’s difficult and rarely comes out right. Just reinstall on the new computer.


18 posted on 09/08/2010 8:32:09 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Chickensoup

OK, that IS the normal way. if you can see the PCs and the Net.

What is happening NOW, is VISTA and WIN& have insane “firewalls and blocking” because the file sharing protocols that they use are 30 years old and used by most viruses and hackers.

You need to do some work to get them to ACTUALLY share.

I don’t use WIN 7, so I am not sure where they may have moved settings around in the new skin, but the OS is the same under the hood, so find the following settings or google what I am saying and see HOW to do it clearer and in more details that I have for this post:

Try to right click on the drive you want to share, (on BOTH machines), click on share with then advanced sharing then clicking on the Security tab, edit, adding Everyone and allowing Full Control.

Once you do this to BOTH machines, you should see Both from each other. Restarts are required.


19 posted on 09/08/2010 8:36:16 AM PDT by RachelFaith (2010 is going to be a 100 seat Tsunami - Welcome to "The Hunt for Red November".)
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To: updatedscreenname

I turnd off both firewalls and now I am told that remote access to the server is not enables. I can see the other computers but what is remote access?


20 posted on 09/08/2010 8:36:53 AM PDT by Chickensoup (There is a group of people who suck off the productive. They make rules then find infractions.)
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To: Chickensoup

Remote access is for controlling one PC from the other anywhere in the world. You do not need or want that for this project.


21 posted on 09/08/2010 8:38:53 AM PDT by RachelFaith (2010 is going to be a 100 seat Tsunami - Welcome to "The Hunt for Red November".)
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To: Chickensoup

You could also save yourself a LOT of heartbreak and just take the 2 PCs to BestBuy and PAY them to do this. It will take them a couple of days, and it isn’t CHEAP. But they DO good work.


22 posted on 09/08/2010 8:43:49 AM PDT by RachelFaith (2010 is going to be a 100 seat Tsunami - Welcome to "The Hunt for Red November".)
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To: RachelFaith

Maybe where you are but the BB types out here in SC need a lot of help.


23 posted on 09/08/2010 8:51:58 AM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: Chickensoup

By far the easiest way to transfer files is via a USB memory stick. Networking 2 PCs can be problematic for non-techies. Just use the Windows Explorer (NOT the Internet Explorer) to find and drag copies of files to the stick, and then later from the stick to the other computer. Make a list of all the programs you actually use and determine where they store your data, because some data may not be located in the “MyDocuments” folder. Any programs that you want to run on the new computer must be reinstalled - you cannot simply copy them over.


24 posted on 09/08/2010 9:11:52 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: wally_bert

Yeah, well, if not them, there are a dozens of little mom and pop PC guys trying to make a living who would be THRILLED to have a new customer.

Moving to a new PC is not for the faint hearted. And MicroSoft doesn’t make PCs so they don’t CARE.


25 posted on 09/08/2010 9:13:53 AM PDT by RachelFaith (2010 is going to be a 100 seat Tsunami - Welcome to "The Hunt for Red November".)
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To: Chickensoup

1. Install Dropbox on each computer.
2. Put files in directory you want to sync.
3. Done!

Install Dropbox here:

http://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTY0NzY2OQ


26 posted on 09/08/2010 9:39:38 AM PDT by NowApproachingMidnight (purple durple lips)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

DO NOT USE DROPBOX TO TRANSFER FILES BETWEEN HOME PCs IF ANY OF THE FILES HAVE PERSONAL IDENTIFYING INFORMATION AND OR BANK/FINANCIAL OR MEDICAL RECORDS.

You surrender your 4th Amendment rights when you use dropbox according to rulings in several Federal District Courts.


If you can move the PCs close enough together, use a CAT5 cable to create a wired network just between the two PCs.
Depending on the type of network adapter you have on each PC, this could transfer files at 10Mb/S or 100Mb/s , which should take you no more than a few minutes.

If you don’t have a cat5 ethernet cable, I’d suggest buying a USB external Harddrive or a USB thumbdrive. With the idea being after you finish this task, either of those will have continued value to your household and be used repeatedly.

Windows has an “Easy Transfer Wizard” that is made for migration to a Windows 7 machine.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/products/features/windows-easy-transfer

Pick your operating system from the downloa doptions and install on your old machine. Run the program, select what you need to transfer, and start building the transfer files. The wizard bundles all the files to be transfered into large compressed files that you can then copy to the new machine by your selected method of transfer. DO yourself a favor and make sure you select the correct size to create the transfer files.... i.e. size of a Cd, size of a DVD, etc.

On the new windows 7 machine... simply type in “easy transfer in the “run...” box in the start menu and the easy transfer wizard will be the first search result. RUn the wizard, point it toward your large compressed files you copied to the new machine, and you’ll be finished in 30 to 60 minutes.


27 posted on 09/08/2010 9:45:49 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: Chickensoup

Do you have an external hard drive you can transfer your old files to and then hook the drive to the new computer and download them or leave them all on the external drive. As long as it’s not a Maxtor, which has a high fail rate. Western Digital is pretty reliable. Also, get a computer back-up program, such as Carbonite.


28 posted on 09/08/2010 9:50:13 AM PDT by rabidralph
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To: Chickensoup
Turn off your router and set up a temporary network between the two computers.

Windows Vista: Ad hoc networking
29 posted on 09/08/2010 9:51:01 AM PDT by greedo
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To: JerseyHighlander

Don't put things in the public Dropbox folder.

30 posted on 09/08/2010 9:58:16 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

Dropbox corporation has by law to immediately hand over all files in any user account within 24 hours of a non-subpoena request from any of over a dozen Federal LEO Agencies.

With a subpoena, any LEO or prosecutor in the country can access all files uploaded to Dropbox.

This is the law of the land. It has been tested in court at least three times in the last 2 years.

The datacenter management industry is fretting over this law so much so they’ve spent millions of dollars lobbying Congress to change the law, because cloud computing becomes an unacceptable security risk to large corporations.


31 posted on 09/08/2010 10:12:28 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: RachelFaith

I’m one of them and for some of the yo yos I have met at Best Buy, I wouldn’t trust any of them.

I’ve applied for those little tech jobs. They act like they want Bachelor’s in computer science with an MCSE. I’ve also overheard those guys push a lot of overpriced and sometimes unnecessary service.


32 posted on 09/08/2010 10:14:30 AM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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You are “one of them”? Which? A mom and pop shop? And you don’t HAVE your MS Certs? I am not a shop and I have both MS and Apple basic certs. They don’t cost much to take a test for a couple hours. The Apple one costs way more than the MS though. Most of the senior BB Geeks have some certs too. Now the average bench kid doesn’t, but still, to copy files over is cake for BB and all profit.


33 posted on 09/08/2010 10:21:02 AM PDT by RachelFaith (2010 is going to be a 100 seat Tsunami - Welcome to "The Hunt for Red November".)
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To: JerseyHighlander

So, I guess the user shouldn’t use the product if they have sensitive documents. Nor should they use Gmail, Yahoo mail, any web hosting service, any cloud service, MS office online, Google Apps, Remember the Milk, Evernote, etc.

Yes, the subpoena problem is a serious one.

However, Dropbox is an extremely useful tool and this is one of the legitimate uses of that tool. If the user doesn’t expect to be under any legal threat, it’s just fine to use Dropbox. I do think we have at least a few weeks left before Fedzilla is keeping tabs on all of our Dropboxes.


34 posted on 09/08/2010 10:37:18 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: RachelFaith

I’m just me who apparently does OK. Break/fix and other stuff is one thing I have going.

Ironically for a long time I carried MS certs and no one cared. After a long time I let that go and after that people would talk to me.

I need to get around to an Apple cert. Every now and then I see an Apple tech job out there. I’ve worked on some towers and a notebook in Apple land.


35 posted on 09/08/2010 10:50:06 AM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: Chickensoup
A Western Digital USB HD is about 50-60 bucks at Best Buy....

Just plug it in.... copy your files wholesale... eject the device correctly.

Plug it into the other machine... copy them from the portable HD to the main drive on the new machine.

Please keep in mind... this isnt a "back up"... you are using the raw [portable] HD space to copy your stuff... and move it to new [digital] environs....

I hope it all works out....

36 posted on 09/08/2010 2:39:57 PM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: Wings-n-Wind

I did it ! I did it!!


37 posted on 09/08/2010 3:50:44 PM PDT by Chickensoup (There is a group of people who suck off the productive. They make rules then find infractions.)
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To: justlurking; Chickensoup
It's fraught with problems, unless you know exactly what you are doing.

1. Make sure that you have a username with the same password on each Windows system.

2. Turn on Windows File and Printer Sharing on the target Windows system. Make sure both Windows systems reside in the same workgroup. Make sure that the Windows firewall allows for Windows File and Printer Sharing.

3. Pick a directory and create a network share, making sure to set the proper Read-Write permissions for the username in (1).

4. On the Windows system that is the source of your files, go to Network Neighborhood (or My Network Places, or whatever it's called now), browse the network, double click on the other Windows system's computer icon, double click on the share, and then copy.

5. Turn off Windows File and Printer Sharing on both Windows systems if you intend to use either or both of them on untrusted networks.

* This procedure assumes you have a functioning, ad-hoc wireless network established between both Windows systems with static, private IP addresses set.

38 posted on 09/08/2010 5:45:02 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: Chickensoup
Way coooooooool....

Congrats!!

39 posted on 09/08/2010 6:33:06 PM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: rabscuttle385

I did it thank you and all!!

NOW to install the PROGRAMS!!!


40 posted on 09/09/2010 4:39:27 AM PDT by Chickensoup (There is a group of people who suck off the productive. They make rules then find infractions.)
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