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Is Obama a socialist? No, hes worse than that
Daily Mail UK ^ | September 16, 2010 | Mary Ellen Synon

Posted on 09/16/2010 8:17:48 AM PDT by opentalk

Sarah Palin and the Tea Party Express have roared right through the latest round of Republican Party primaries this week, rattling the party establishment and terrifying the Democrats. For those of you who are trained in the fastidious ways of the British ‘liberalism’ and are therefore shocked and can’t think why the American Right is gaining such strength, here’s the reason: Barack Obama.

Americans are waking up to the fact that they have elected a man as president who is every inch an exotic creature. Which was rather fun at first. The problem is, America is discovering that Mr Obama has brought more than just a foreign name and an interesting racial mix to the White House. He has brought a whole foreign way of thinking. And Americans don’t like it.

Millions of them now want national leadership with a more star-spangled way of looking at the world, which is why this week there is something else going on in America, a national debate on a story about Mr Obama in the business magazine, Forbes. The story is called ‘How Obama thinks.’ Its conclusion is that he thinks like a 1950s East African anti-colonialist. The article was written by Dinesh D’Souza, an academic and author who is as exotic as the US president. Mr D’Souza was born in Mumbai and immigrated to America as a student. He is now president of The King’s College in New York. He once served in the Reagan White House. Many of Mr Obama’s critics claim he is a socialist. Certainly, as Mr D’Souza says: ‘Thanks to Obama the era of big government is back. He has expanded the federal government’s control over home mortgages, investment banking, health care, autos and energy.’

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1 posted on 09/16/2010 8:17:50 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

He is all that AND more....

Ever wonder why muslims like him so much?... ever wonder why we will fail in our defenses against them (purposefully and intentionally)?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2585916/posts?page=27#27


2 posted on 09/16/2010 8:24:05 AM PDT by himno hero
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To: opentalk
Is it too late to bring back the House Committee on Un-American Activities?
3 posted on 09/16/2010 8:24:11 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ask yourself,where does Saudi Arabia fit on a scale of "passive" to "moderate" to "extremist" Islam?)
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To: himno hero

In a radio interview Dinesh D’Souza believes this explains Obama’s oil drilling policy of making us oil dependent while subsidizing Brazil and Mexico. He uses the green thing to advance agenda.


4 posted on 09/16/2010 8:27:40 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

Hopefully, all those “brilliant” and “intellectual” Democrats and Independents aren’t feeling so “brilliant” and “intellectual” these days.

(But, they’ll probably vote for the left again, no matter what.)

Maroons every one of them.

IMHO


5 posted on 09/16/2010 8:27:40 AM PDT by ripley
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To: opentalk

....interesting racial mix to the White House....

Zing. Finally - someone pegs those who voted for him as the possible racists


6 posted on 09/16/2010 8:27:40 AM PDT by fml
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To: opentalk
...rather fun at first."

Only for the flakes.

7 posted on 09/16/2010 8:28:44 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both.)
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To: opentalk

Nice article - thanks for posting.

It has long been clear to me, and is increasingly clear to everyone, that Obama is simply not one of us, that he despises us, and that he needs to be booted out by us. Bad rubbish.


8 posted on 09/16/2010 8:28:44 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: opentalk
Which was rather fun at first.

For who? Obama has been a disaster since he was in the Illinois Legislature.....

9 posted on 09/16/2010 8:33:50 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Stop the insanity - Flush Congress!)
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To: dagogo redux
It Seems to have hit a nerve with the Whitehouse.

The way the MSM , especially MSNBC — morning Joe, have tried to do damage control on this article indicates there"s some truth to this.

10 posted on 09/16/2010 8:34:31 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk
Yet colonialism today is a dead issue. As Mr D’Souza says: ‘Emerging market economies such as China, India, Chile and Indonesia have solved the problem of backwardness; they are exploiting their labour advantage and growing much faster than the US.’

Interestingly, if "China, India, Chile and Indonesia have solved the problem of backwardness," who is that has NOT solved the problem of backwardness?

Um, that would be Africa and most of the Muslim world.

And what, in particular, is our President focused on? For one, "self-esteem" in the Muslim world (see NASA).

11 posted on 09/16/2010 8:36:33 AM PDT by fightinJAG (Step away from the toilet. Let the housing market flush.)
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To: opentalk

What puzzles me is the assumption that one man, even The Anointed One, can move American Policy in such weird ways. It has to be groupthink. There must be a set of advisors. Obozo does not have a personality forceful enough to move the mountain by himself.


12 posted on 09/16/2010 8:37:20 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: opentalk

What puzzles me is the assumption that one man, even The Anointed One, can move American Policy in such weird ways. It has to be groupthink. There must be a set of advisors. Obozo does not have a personality forceful enough to move the mountain by himself.


13 posted on 09/16/2010 8:37:25 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: opentalk

Last night on CNN

Roland Martin was screaming to Erik Erickson

“You’re not going to sit their and call this President anti-American”

Erickson calmly respond by essentially calling the President Anti-American.

The fear of being labeled a racist is finally wearing thin. The flood gates are cracking. Soon calling the President anti-American will be common place.

(just as RUSH did with the word “failure”)


14 posted on 09/16/2010 8:40:38 AM PDT by wilco200 (11/4/08 - The Day America Jumped the Shark)
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To: dagogo redux
It has long been clear to me, and is increasingly clear to everyone, that Obama is simply not one of us, that he despises us, and that he needs to be booted out by us. Bad rubbish.
If that's the only lesson learned from this fiasco then we haven't learned a thing.

Here's the deal: Obama isn't doing ANYTHING that the AVERAGE DEMOCRAP POL doesn't fully and completely support... despite their current temporary protests to the contrary.

15 posted on 09/16/2010 8:41:16 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: opentalk
“How Obama thinks.’ Its conclusion is that he thinks like a 1950s East African anti-colonialist.”

1950'S East African anti-colonialism had ONE advantage over what we in America are experiencing here and now ... It was IN East Africa and NOT HERE!!

I am sure this is all part of a WH plan to white-wash the “O” image and compensate for all the President's failings to date. To most Americans (the ones so DUMB that they voted for him in the first place)’1950’s East African Anti-Colonialism’ sounds a hell of a lot better than ‘Socialism’ or ‘Communism’. We have NOT been living under the threat of ‘East African Anti-Colonialism’ for 60 years!! Expect this and more manipulation of 'O's' image in the near future. The groaning burden of failures he is under right now means he has to re-invent "Obama" before the next election.

16 posted on 09/16/2010 8:46:40 AM PDT by SMARTY ("What luck for rulers that men do not think." Adolph Hitler)
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To: All

These comments are wonderful, guys. Thanks.

We are witnessing the gutting, looting and ‘wine pressing’ of America’s proud, sweet harvest of liberty.

Edgar Allen Poe’s “Pit and the Pendulum” rings true now for our nation and is no longer merely a horror story.


17 posted on 09/16/2010 8:48:21 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: I am Richard Brandon
The UN is big on wealth redistribution. Soros wants to “knock America off her pedestal”, The saudis seem to have a connection with Obama and Kagan. (basically our government). Many forces possibly with different motives.

Obama seemed to be able to direct tax dollars to manipulate Kenya's recent vote on a new constitution with no constraint.

18 posted on 09/16/2010 8:49:58 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: a fool in paradise
Millions of them now want national leadership with a more star-spangled way of looking at the world, which is why this week there is something else going on in America, a national debate on a story about Mr Obama in the business magazine, Forbes.

It's not just Americans who know "a more star-spangled way of looking at the world" is necessary for America's freedom and prosperity (if not outright survival).

A German economist, writing in Der Spiegel, makes the same argument in a compelling way.

In Obama's Misguided Policies: America Has Become Too European, Thomas Straubhaar wonderfully zeroes in on the pillars of American exceptionalism -- the pillars to which we must return or die! For example:

A firm belief in the individual's ability, ideas, courage, will and a reliance on one's own resources brought the US to the top.

The individual's pursuit of happiness was seen as the crucial foundation for the well-being of society, rather than the benevolent state which cares for its subjects -- and certainly not the welfare state . . ..

Both the behavior of the American government and the Federal Reserve makes one thing clear: They do not see the solution to the US's economic woes in a return to traditional American virtues.

Obama is not calling for the unleashing of market forces, as Ronald Reagan once did during an equally critical period in the early 1980s.

On the contrary: Obama, driven by his own convictions and advised by economists who believe in government intervention, has taken a path that leads far away from those things that catapulted America to the top of the world in the past century.

The highest commandment of the American worldview was always to maximize individual freedoms and minimize government influence. It was an approach that was highly successful.

According to that rule, self-directed action would remain the rule and government intervention the unpopular exception. But that is no longer the case.

The opposite strategy, one that seeks to treat the American patient with more government, is risky -- because it does not fit in with America's image of itself.

But what is good for Europe and Germany does not automatically work for the US. The settlers of the New World rejected everything, which included throwing out anything with a semblance of state authority. They fled Europe to find freedom.

The sole shared goal of the settlers was to obtain individual freedom and live independently, which included the freedom to say what they wanted, believe what they wanted and write what they wanted. The state was seen as a way to facilitate this goal.

The state should not interfere in people's lives, aside from securing freedom, peace and security. Economic prosperity was seen as the responsibility of the individual.

19 posted on 09/16/2010 8:50:39 AM PDT by fightinJAG (Step away from the toilet. Let the housing market flush.)
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To: opentalk
Obama has a completely un-American perspective that doesn't match anything I've encountered in western culture. He reminds me more of the worst from the East:

"Unlike the cruel Leonidas, who demanded that you stand, I require only that you kneel."

Obama is a slow learner, but he may be catching on to our response. If he wants our children indoctrinated in his ways, our guns taken from our hands, or anything else of ours that he is not entitled to, there can only be one answer.

20 posted on 09/16/2010 8:52:41 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: opentalk

I agree.

They know that ALL the personal controversies that swirl around President Obama and WILL NOT DIE — all strains of birtherism, questions about his religion, etc. — fundamentally these are expressions of a deep collective angst on the question of WHO IS THIS MAN?

The fact that so many Americans are even asking WHO IS THIS MAN? is a battle the White House can’t win, regardless.

It is clear Obama is not culturally an American. Therefore, he cannot be an effective American President.


21 posted on 09/16/2010 8:53:43 AM PDT by fightinJAG (Step away from the toilet. Let the housing market flush.)
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To: opentalk
Obama is a radical communist
22 posted on 09/16/2010 8:54:35 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Islamists demanding "tolerance"? That's like Hannibal Lecter demanding to decide the menu.)
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To: I am Richard Brandon

This has been the question that has dogged my thinking ever since Obamacare. Whatever is going on with Obama, and Anticolonism explains a lot, why in Hell’s Bells did the Rats march in lockstep with him AGAINST THEIR OWN COUNTRY?

Was there not ONE DEMOCRAT who saw that Obama was beseiging the very foundations of American exceptionalism?

Why were the Rats so unquestioning in their brutal efforts to force Socialism — which is not even the totality of what Obama is trying to do to this country — down the throats of their own countrymen?

This, I do not understand.


23 posted on 09/16/2010 8:56:35 AM PDT by fightinJAG (Step away from the toilet. Let the housing market flush.)
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To: opentalk

Whatever it is we must get him out of there ASAP!


24 posted on 09/16/2010 8:58:55 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (counter revolutionary)
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To: wilco200

Exactly.

I, however, would say the President is not so much anti-American as anti-America.

But, of course, the distinction is minute and, in the end, the two reach the same destination.

I am thrilled that people are more and more able to say what they think. This is why those who settled this new world came here in the first place!


25 posted on 09/16/2010 8:59:09 AM PDT by fightinJAG (Step away from the toilet. Let the housing market flush.)
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To: opentalk

I would recommend to anyone who hasn’t already read Dinesh D’Souza’s article, to take the time to do so. It’s a very interesting (and if accurate, disturbing) analysis of what makes Obama tick. Couple this anti-colonialism aspect with Obama’s evident narcissistic personality disorder, and we have one sick, demented puppy holding the top political office in our nation. We are in for some serious trouble (more than already occurred) the longer he is in this position of power.


26 posted on 09/16/2010 9:04:53 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; When a wicked man rules, the people groan.)
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To: a fool in paradise

No its revival is long overdue.


27 posted on 09/16/2010 9:07:43 AM PDT by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: I am Richard Brandon

I agree. Obama’s enablers go much further than the cronies who Beck points out. Soros probably is in the next higher group but even he is not the whole influence. I keep in my mind that it was Bush #1 with his world contacts who first gave me ,and probably many others, the introduction to the existance of a ‘new World order. Think of the Walkers/UN and China. Think of the Rothschilds who for years never missed an opportunity to control world finances and of course don’t leave out the Islamic world primed by our ‘friends’ the Saudies.


28 posted on 09/16/2010 9:12:14 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: fightinJAG
Our own state department is in the war against AZ and has reported them to UN. The Fort Hood lack of follow-up and stonewalling on the facts of this terrorist attack. Seems there are tentacles throughout the government. Holder more concerned about terrorists rights. Homeland security, making us less secure.

What is the end game? Dont want to find out.

29 posted on 09/16/2010 9:14:47 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: SMARTY
I am sure this is all part of a WH plan to white-wash the “O” image and compensate for all the President's failings to date.

They started with the logo...

30 posted on 09/16/2010 9:23:49 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: opentalk

America didn’t elect Obama. Half of America did. Just wanted to make that clear. I never liked or trusted 0 - not once!


31 posted on 09/16/2010 9:23:59 AM PDT by Bitsy
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To: EternalVigilance

As you know, EV, Soros’ Open Society’s East Africa Initiative was started in 2005. It includes Kenya.

http://www.soros.org/initiatives/osiea/news/announce_20050601


“The Citizen (Dar es Salaam)

East Africa: Initiative to Improve Pastoralists, Launched”
Alvar Mwakyusa
11 August 2010

http://allafrica.com/stories/201008120039.html

IMO, FReepers need to be scouring foreign news sources for initiatives surrounding the actual audience for 0bama’s mouthpiece. They are not American. I know we do this on a regular basis, but we need to be touting them more and allowing them to filter up to the national voices that still support America as special.


32 posted on 09/16/2010 9:31:55 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: fightinJAG

Hiyas, fJAG.

I was having this same conversation last night. Someone I know was proposing that the ‘Democrats’ in power don’t necessarily want to destroy America, but, rather, to make it something else that is unrecognizable to most citizens. To fracture it into groups, a la the Arizona border, makes it controllable by using the historical practice of divide and conquer.

“We shall overcome” is now “We shall OVERWHELM”

Of course, I am being redundant here. Apologies.


33 posted on 09/16/2010 9:35:36 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: samtheman
Obama isn't doing ANYTHING that the AVERAGE DEMOCRAP POL doesn't fully and completely support... despite their current temporary protests to the contrary.

I think you grabbed the Brass Ring with that comment. They ALL hate our form of government, just as they use it's unique freedoms in their plan to destroy it.

This whole doo-dah is about world socialism. Conservatives like us have been regarded as "primitives" by the intellectual elite since about the end of WWII. Capitalists have been viewed as vicious world plunderers and oppressors. Despite his "silly" blackboards and over-emotional rhetoric, Glenn Beck has done a yeoman's job of exploring this snakepit and identifying the players. Obama is only the figurehead for an organized, wealthy, anti-American underground determined to end this nation as we know it.

34 posted on 09/16/2010 9:39:13 AM PDT by Bernard Marx (I don’t trust the reasoning of anyone who writes then when they mean than.)
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To: opentalk

Its all true. Brazil, Mexico are shining examples in his energy policy. Militarily? Same. Empowering the others while dhiminishing ourselves. Politically? Breaking all old relationships that make us America ~ while he cozies to the Islamic world. Economically? Destroys the employment and small business while creating the larges debt ever to enslave future generations...effectively bankrupting the nation and creating a nation of servitude.

Nefarious from the outset.

Its about the destruction of the US of A AND the free western world.

An all out offensive from the White Hut! Worst part? America has been sleeping and unaware, Medias? Complicit.


35 posted on 09/16/2010 9:48:50 AM PDT by himno hero
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To: combat_boots

I guess the endgame for them is permanent personal power? I don’t see anything else they might gain out of following Obama off a cliff.

If they do succeed in overwhelming the country — subjugating it, then — that leaves them with all the jellybeans. I guess that is their “reward.”

But it still astounds me that there was not one Democrat who stood up and said, wait a minute, this is anti-America.


36 posted on 09/16/2010 10:01:30 AM PDT by fightinJAG (Step away from the toilet. Let the housing market flush.)
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To: OB1kNOb
I would recommend to anyone who hasn’t already read Dinesh D’Souza’s article, to take the time to do so. It’s a very interesting (and if accurate, disturbing) analysis of what makes Obama tick. Couple this anti-colonialism aspect with Obama’s evident narcissistic personality disorder, and we have one sick, demented puppy holding the top political office in our nation.

By all means. Dr D'Souza's diagnosis is right on the money!

Also, check out the insightful articles at http://www.americanthinker.com/le_ikenga/. L. E. Ikenga is an American woman of Nigerian descent (Igbo tribe, to be precise). Her conclusions about Obama are similar to D'Souza's. Rush Limbaugh read her piece Obama, the African Colonial on the air last year.

37 posted on 09/16/2010 10:05:08 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody
His book about this is coming out in a few months.
38 posted on 09/16/2010 10:23:52 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

I had a heated discussion with several of my co-workers who claim to be conservatives and Republicans. To paraphrase... they said that Sara Palin was stupid and that Obama was a genius. They also said that if Sara Palin were the Republican nominee that they would vote for Obama.

I pointed out that Sara Palin was raised in a family with traditional American values and that she could be counted on to govern using those values as her guide. I also asked them what evidence they had that Obama was so smart? Could they produce any of his school records? His scholarly papers? Even his accomplishments as a legislator? What about his decisions as the man who occupies the White House? Of course they made no attempt to answer any of these questions other than to say what a great speaker he was. Which I pointed out seemed to apply only while he was reading someone else’s words from a teleprompter.

I then went on to point out that Obama’s mother was a marxist, his grandparents were communists, his mentors were communists, his father and step father were foreigners who were marxist or communists, or as this article points out had some other form of anti-American sentiments. Even his longtime minister, Reverend Wright has a history of marxist anti-American sentiment. In his autobiography, Obama tells how he hung out with radicals. Should it be any suprise that his policies are proving harmful to the United States?

And yet my co-workers coninued to parrot the big media line about how smart Obama was and how stupid Sara Palin was and how they would vote for Obama this time around if Palin was the nominee. It was incredibly frustrating.

The original Forbes article is revealing and it is a very worthwhile read. I am not sure that D’Souza has it completely right, but it he definately is extremely insightful and gives some of the best explanations to date of Obama’s of the pathology of Obama’s make-up. Unfortunately, I am not sure that my dimwitted friends have the attention span to get all the way through the article.

It is a little like the value of trying to understand what went wrong in Charles Manson’s mind however. If Obama was not currently occupying the oval office it wouldn’t matter much what made him tick. His actions and words both before and after he took office indicate that he is at the least not somone who should be trusted to look out for the United State’s best interests. It is very difficult for me to understand why so many have such a difficult time understanding this.


39 posted on 03/02/2011 4:44:58 PM PST by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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