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The Bomb Chroniclers: Secret Corps of Filmmakers Documented Nuclear Bomb Tests
The New York Times ^ | September 13, 2010 | WILLIAM J. BROAD

Posted on 09/16/2010 9:16:09 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner

They risked their lives to capture on film hundreds of blinding flashes, rising fireballs and mushroom clouds.

The blast from one detonation hurled a man and his camera into a ditch. When he got up, a second wave knocked him down again.

Then there was radiation.

While many of the scientists who made atom bombs during the cold war became famous, the men who filmed what happened when those bombs were detonated made up a secret corps.

Their existence and the nature of their work has emerged from the shadows only since the federal government began a concerted effort to declassify their films about a dozen years ago. In all, the atomic moviemakers fashioned 6,500 secret films, according to federal officials.

Today, the result is a surge in fiery images on television and movie screens, as well as growing public knowledge about the atomic filmmakers.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans; Science; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: atomicbomb; catastrophism; documentary; film; filmmakers; movies; nuclear; testing; wmd


1 posted on 09/16/2010 9:16:12 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

#1 problem - Over exposed film


2 posted on 09/16/2010 9:18:41 AM PDT by Waverunner (")
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To: Waverunner

#2 is a good documentary pic.


3 posted on 09/16/2010 9:22:01 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

So... “nuts”, or just nuts?


4 posted on 09/16/2010 9:38:53 AM PDT by Pessimist
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Smile and wait for flash


5 posted on 09/16/2010 9:39:00 AM PDT by Ender Wiggin
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Two new atomic documentaries, “Countdown to Zero” and “Nuclear Tipping Point,” feature archival images of the blasts. Both argue that the threat of atomic terrorism is on the rise and call for the strengthening of nuclear safeguards and, ultimately, the elimination of global arsenals.

There are a number of DVDs will public doman footage from the blasts as well as training films. I've even picked up one title on the "secret corps of filmmakers".

That said, such images of the cameramen filming the low yield blasts (or even being knocked down but not immediately killed by the blasts) are evidence that those who say "you WILL NOT SURVIVE a nuclear blast" are false. That is directed at those who poo-pooed fall out shelters and who today believe that a terrorist strike with a "suitcase nuke" will kill everyone in a major metropolitan area.

It all depends on the strength.

6 posted on 09/16/2010 9:48:28 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ask yourself,where does Saudi Arabia fit on a scale of "passive" to "moderate" to "extremist" Islam?)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Viewers include President Obama.

In April, he hosted a White House screening of “Nuclear Tipping Point.” The documentary profiles a bipartisan group of former atomic officials who are promoting a vision of the world free of nuclear arms — an objective in line with Mr. Obama’s own policies.

You aren't going to put the genie back in the bottle, but Obama is hell-bent on diminishing America's nuclear arsenal even if the Russians and Chinese won't.

7 posted on 09/16/2010 9:55:09 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ask yourself,where does Saudi Arabia fit on a scale of "passive" to "moderate" to "extremist" Islam?)
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To: a fool in paradise
I have an old VHS copy of Trinity and Beyond, which was an excellent documentary on the nuclear testing program from 1945 through 1964, narrated by William Shatner.

I highly recommend it!


8 posted on 09/16/2010 9:56:43 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: a fool in paradise
It all depends on the strength.

And the proximity.

If even half of what the doomsayers spout was true we should all be dead already. Over the course of around fifteen years the US and Soviets (and Brits and French) detonated hundreds of nuclear devices. Yet the population of the earth approximately doubled during the same time period.

The alarmists are like the people who wrote and directed the mutant sci-fi films of the fifties, except of course that those films were sometimes entertaining (like Them with the bus size ants).

9 posted on 09/16/2010 9:59:47 AM PDT by katana (No pity, no mercy, no quarter for traitors)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

I have this in DVD. This Is awesome. It’s the best one on the subject. It’s shows the raw power of nuclear weapons like no other Doc. It’s scary to see the power and horror of the nuclear age. I do not know how we got out of the 20th century except by prayer from the Grace of God. Always Heaven Help us.


10 posted on 09/16/2010 10:08:57 AM PDT by johngrace (God so loved the world so he gave his only son! Praise Jesus and Hail Mary!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
The top photo makes me wonder if a montage of these blasts accompanied by The Beatles’ "Here Comes The Sun" would be as surreal as it sounds.
11 posted on 09/16/2010 11:43:39 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("It's amazing, A man who has such large ears could be so tone deaf" Rush Limbaugh 9/8/10)
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To: a fool in paradise
That is directed at those who poo-pooed fall out shelters and who today believe that a terrorist strike with a "suitcase nuke" will kill everyone in a major metropolitan area.

Yup. I heard people for decades poo-pooing the old 'duck and cover' when in reality if you saw the flash you darn well needed to duck and cover or the flying glass was going to cut you up. If you were a few miles from ground zero you were probably going to be ok.
12 posted on 09/16/2010 12:05:11 PM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: 75thOVI; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; aristotleman; Avoiding_Sulla; BBell; ...
Thanks Virginia Ridgerunner.

Oppenheimer, the principle developer of the atomic bomb, wrote later that during the explosion of the first atomic bomb, he immediately recalled something from the Bhagavad-gita -- "Death I am, cause of destruction of the worlds..."
 
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13 posted on 09/16/2010 7:27:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: SunkenCiv

Interestingly, some translations of the Bhagavad Gita render the line, “I am become Time, the destroyer of worlds.”


14 posted on 09/16/2010 7:29:26 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("A litte plain food, and a philosophic temperament, are the only necessities of life."~W. Churchill)
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To: Tax-chick

Thanks Tax-chick! And bravo for the alacrity! And the version of this story I originally read had it “shatterer of worlds”. :’)


15 posted on 09/16/2010 7:37:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: SunkenCiv

I don’t know a bit about the original language, but the possible consonance of “death” and “time” gives an English-speaker food for thought, especially with what we sort-of know about the curiousities of time in the sub-atomic sphere.

In “The Hunt for Red October,” Captain Ramius mentioned Oppenheimer’s use of the line.


16 posted on 09/16/2010 7:42:11 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("A litte plain food, and a philosophic temperament, are the only necessities of life."~W. Churchill)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Wow...... I wonder how long those guys survived after making all of those films. They HAD to be exposed to more radiation than a growing boy needs.


17 posted on 09/16/2010 7:45:46 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Tax-chick; SunkenCiv
Read a book a while back by Carole Gallagher. American Ground Zero: The Secret Nuclear War.

Here's a couple of articles.

Interview

Glowing

18 posted on 09/16/2010 7:58:12 PM PDT by bigheadfred (We built a tower of stone. With our flesh and bone. Just to see him fly .)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

If one was a “Down Winder,” there was no question: One took Iodine Pills once a week and never, ever asked why; neither did our parents.


19 posted on 09/16/2010 8:00:05 PM PDT by Monkey Face (Harry Reid arrived at the Clean Air Summit in a fleet of BIG SUVs! What a guy!)
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To: bigheadfred

Interesting.


20 posted on 09/16/2010 8:02:04 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("A litte plain food, and a philosophic temperament, are the only necessities of life."~W. Churchill)
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To: Tax-chick

I thought you were on the way to beddy-bye?

As a Down-Winder, I think William Shatner had it together. But I can’t recall what he said about us...

Harry Reid is trying to scare us all with the nuclear waste...he’s too late...I’ve been nuclear wasted!


21 posted on 09/16/2010 8:07:01 PM PDT by Monkey Face (Harry Reid arrived at the Clean Air Summit in a fleet of BIG SUVs! What a guy!)
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To: Tax-chick

I live by the Idaho National Laboratory. They didn’t do any bomb tests there. But lots of other nuclear related activities. Lived in a small town on it’s other side. They (Arco)lay claim to being the first city lit by nuclear power. But I’m pretty sure that was Hiroshima. Seems like too many people out there die of some strange cancers. There was going to be some sort of Federal study but it never happened.

When I was an engineering student they took us on a field trip to one of the facilities. You could stand on top of that reactor and look through view ports while it was on. Weird blue glow. But really cool.


22 posted on 09/16/2010 8:18:19 PM PDT by bigheadfred (We built a tower of stone. With our flesh and bone. Just to see him fly .)
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To: bigheadfred

Thanks bhf!


23 posted on 09/16/2010 9:00:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: SunkenCiv; redhead

Us Down-Winders have a lot to say. We didn’t dare speak up when we were fed iodine pills every week in second grade. We were told it was “what they did.”

Now, I can’t help asking how many of us have become ill and/or died because of the radioactive stuff we ingested. And how many children in St. George were born with Down Syndrome and other birth defects?

In the ‘80’s, I believe the statistics were NOT on the side of the liberals...


24 posted on 09/16/2010 9:28:50 PM PDT by Monkey Face (Harry Reid arrived at the Clean Air Summit in a fleet of BIG SUVs! What a guy!)
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To: Monkey Face

I was on the way, but I thought of something interesting to post. Then a fly landed on the touch-screen and zotted my post, so I went to bed.


25 posted on 09/17/2010 4:14:03 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("A litte plain food, and a philosophic temperament, are the only necessities of life."~W. Churchill)
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To: Monkey Face

John Wayne shot a movie in an area near previous tests, and he and his co-star (eventually) died of cancer; they weren’t the only ones among those who worked on the movie. Maybe someone knows the details of this better than my garbled version.


26 posted on 09/17/2010 8:09:23 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: SunkenCiv

John Wayne and co were in a different direction than we were. We were NE, and the movie “The Conquerers” was filmed in Kanab, more to the east and much farher south. In fact, I slept in the cabin he stayed in once, when I was at a Singles Convention 20 years ago.

It’s still a nice area, though I imagine folks still glow at night. ;o]


27 posted on 09/18/2010 5:48:43 AM PDT by Monkey Face ("Eh, you crafty bastard, Eh." said the fairy. ~~ Arrowhead 1952 a la fanfan)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Well, they may have been filming things surreptitiously, but I doubt if there was more than a handful of tests that were not officially recorded and documented to the T.

Go out to Youtube and search for “Davy Crockett”...


28 posted on 09/18/2010 5:54:26 AM PDT by djf (It is ISLAM or "We, the People..." Take your pick. THERE IS NO MIDDLE GROUND!!!)
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