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[Vanity] - Why is Illegal Immigration Wrong?
09/17/2010 | Personal

Posted on 09/17/2010 11:40:59 PM PDT by hylandia

I live in San Francisco, and I think you all know what that implies. I am a dyed-in-the-wool liberal and nearly everyone I interact with daily is as well. I read Free Republic most days to try to understand why Obamacare is so hated, and why the Ground Zero Mosque is taking such flak. And to be honest, I understand most of the viewpoints here. I don't agree, but I understand. The only one I don't understand is the very, very strong opposition to illegal immigration. Is it strictly a legal opposition? Workers that flaunt our laws at the border are likely to flaunt others? Or are there other reasons? I promise not to post again... so the zotting is a foregone response. I am just very interested in exactly why you feel that illegal immigration is so wrong.


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To: Vendome

Ahhnndddd 101!


101 posted on 09/18/2010 12:44:02 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: hylandia

IBTEKAAT

(in before the electric kool aid acid test)


102 posted on 09/18/2010 12:44:59 AM PDT by matt1234 (The only crisis 0bama can manage is one he intentionally created.)
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To: Vendome
Honest intellectuals (a contradiction in terms) would tell you about over population. We can not house every person in the world who can make it over that open border and still have the resources to survive here. Open borders are mean and cruel to Americans but who cares, right? Don't be mean to the foreigners! Bring ‘em all in! We will worry about water when it is too late, as usual. I got my “lifesaver bottles” so all is well.

In the future you can “progress” to controlling the uteruses of women to limit the overpopulation you created by supporting illegal immigration twenty years ago. In other words, you can “progress” from harming America with illegal immigration to raping America with a Chinese style birth control program. Will you chase down the grandkids of all those illegals you love so much and rip the babies out of their wombs to save the environment?

Many progressive “intellectuals” think that is the way to go in overpopulated countries. That is your future if you don't start firing some synapses.

When the consequences of your stupidity today, comes back to bite you in the butt, you will whine about it. Liberals will have a slogan to blame it on big windmill.

103 posted on 09/18/2010 12:45:52 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: hylandia
I am just very interested in exactly why you feel that illegal immigration is so wrong.

It punishes everyone who abides by the rules.

It's just the Right Thing to do to respect the rules of the places you visit.

By way of analogy, let's say you have a well known friendly neighbor who upon seeing you walk down the street, invites you to join them on the porch for a lemonade or something. You get an open invitation to "come visit any time". That wouldn't make it right to one day see a window open in that house, sneak inside, hide, and start camping out in the basement or something.

104 posted on 09/18/2010 12:48:14 AM PDT by altair (Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent - Salvor Hardin)
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To: SaraJohnson

Sara, honey, I have no idea where your hypothesis comes from and how it even applies to me.

But, hell, if you want to argue over some invented scenario, let er rip.

I have never been for open borders. It is cruel and inhumane to ask a man, woman or even children to leave their families, neighborhoods, the country of their birth and culture.

It is further cruel that humans live in squalid conditions or to always be relegated to second class humans who are never allowed to roam freely as a citizen.

They get pulled over, no license, we take your car. Now that man’s ability to provide for his family is greatly impacted.

Cars ain’t cheap and he will have to acquire another if he hopes to make it to whatever job he has. Without a car he is Flintstoning it to get from point A to point B.

Without a car he cannot pack his car full of groceries that would feed his family.

Without a car he cannot transport his very sick child to receive medical care.

Being here illegally and telling all your friends to come over further complicates the problem and exacerbates it over and over again.

BTW, we have plenty of water. The shortage is over in the valley and it is robbing farmers of the vital thing required to farm.

And why is that? Because of some particular and special smelt. Hell, I say eat the damn things or use for chumming.

But the shortage is artificial and forced on the farmer by some government bureaucrat who loves to wield power over others not realizing the damning effect it has good hard working Americans and even those who are here illegally.

We have plenty of water in the cities and to each and every household.

So long as it snows in the Sierras will always have plenty of water.

We live in the high desert but it is completely manageable.

Now I ask why you don’t point your question at the people of Arizona, New Mexico, Western Texas and well, dare I say it Southern Nevada.

Those are true deserts and they get their water from everywhere but their respective states.

As far as your dimwitted utopia of cutting the uterus out of a woman, that would be your sick dream and I am thinking your name, SaraJohnson, is your American name.

You are really a Chinese spy. Right?

Now I ask people who


105 posted on 09/18/2010 1:01:52 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: hylandia

Here are my reasons why I oppose illegal immigration:

First let me say that I am not so much against the illegals per se, because if I was in their shoes suffering in hell and the door to paradise was left open and unguarded I would probably walk in as well.

The people that I’m angry at are the people on this side of the border that let it happen.

Here’s why I think it’s bad:

1. It’s breaking the law, or worse it’s selective enforcement of the law. Which is (or should be) a very serious thing in a society that is founded on the rule of law. This has a caustic effect on the fabric of society, increases cynicism, disrespect for other laws, and enrages those that follow the process.

2. It is my view that nations in essence are containers of culture or value systems. There is an implied contract for the people born inside the boundaries that they will be acculturated to those values. That maintains a degree of peace and harmony within the society. Immigration laws were designed to insure that the people allowed in would not cause social disruptions or be burdensome and in fact would make positive contributions to the society - i.e. were for the benefit of the country first and then the immigrant. Thus to be allowed in you would need to satisfy certain criteria such as acceptance of our culture, having a history not antagonistic to the culture, be of good character, be able to support yourself, be willing to integrate yourself into the society by learning the language,, have some skill set that was desirable, not have any communicable disease, etc.

3. With illegal immigration none of this is possible. So you open up the country to all sort of threats and problems. You will get criminals, terrorists, people with disease, good workers that want to assimilate, good workers that don’t want to assimilate and instead form ghettos and eventually demand special treatment or separation, people that come in for the social benefits and add to the tax burden, etc. We see all this happening and none of it is good. Why inflict a system like that on yourself?

I’m all in favor for increasing LEGAL immigration (if that’s what we want as a society), where all those criteria that I mentioned above are taken into account. (BTW, I’m a legal immigrant myself and I had to go through that type of screening)

Now that I’ve told you why I’m against ILLEGAL immigration, perhaps you can tell me why you favor it.


106 posted on 09/18/2010 1:02:17 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: SaraJohnson

What color is the sky in your world and who is the arbiter of honesty as a characteristic of intellect?

You? LOL


107 posted on 09/18/2010 1:03:47 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: hylandia

Well you made a start by aknowledging it is illegal.But you are really just interested in gettin some good juicy backfeed.Maybe some other troll will provide that??


108 posted on 09/18/2010 1:04:15 AM PDT by Nooseman (mutt)
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To: hylandia

Billions upon billions every year. Try adding them up. Look at California’s deficit. What would it be without years of laying out for illegals. These numbers accumulate. How about the California school system. Classes in Spanish. You pay for all those teachers. After they retire you continue paying for them.
I understand the left thinks the resources are always there but they’re not. I for one don’t wish my lifestyle degraded any further than it is in order to support illegals for supporting them is exactly what we do.


109 posted on 09/18/2010 1:12:06 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: canuck_conservative
What’s next, you’re gonna wonder why rape and child molestation are wrong?

I'm not sure it is wrong or illegal in San Fran.

110 posted on 09/18/2010 1:26:45 AM PDT by 999replies (Thune/Rubio 2012)
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To: Lancey Howard

I bet you that guy can get sued for attempting to practice medicine without a medical license. What a shame.


111 posted on 09/18/2010 1:29:44 AM PDT by 999replies (Thune/Rubio 2012)
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To: hylandia

112 posted on 09/18/2010 1:32:28 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: Vendome

There you are dragon. I was waiting for your true colors to show.


113 posted on 09/18/2010 1:33:27 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: hylandia

I’d like to give you a little comprehensive reasoning and see what your response is.

The reason for a border and controls is that we own this country and they own theirs, in a sovereign sense. (There are two levels of ownership: private personal property exists within a framework of a sovereign state whose laws protect those people and property.)

We the people elect our leaders to govern us as we like. One of the things our leaders have recognized is that most of us want a stable electorate that is steeped in the history and culture of this country. And while things change over time, a stable population evolves slowly with few disruptions. To that end, our leaders passed laws to regulate immigration so that we can benefit from a regular infusion of talent and ideas, but not so fast that it disturbs the decisions and tranquility of those who already live here and have invested their whole lives in the culture we have.

But then there are leaders and a minority of the electorate who are not satisfied with the decisions we have made for ourselves. (You are probably one.) They have not been entirely successful at changing minds to their way of thinking. So a solution they have come to is to change the electorate by subverting the very laws they passed to placate current citizens and under cover of darkness import a new future electorate they believe will shift things more their way, mainly socialist-thinking people from Mexico and other third world countries.

Any fair-minded person should see that illegally substituting one electorate for another in order to rig elections down the road is wrong. More insidiously, while claiming to be for diversity and against racism, they use the conflict over illegal immigration to create solidarity along racial lines of several minority groups and division in the majority to consolidate their power base for changing the system away from what the majority of existing citizens originally voted for, even before giving amnesty and the vote to the newcomers.

The reaction of the majority of the current electorate appears to be an opposition to immigrant groups and an insipient racism. In fact, it is a reaction, not always well-voiced, to defend our right to govern ourselves by majority consent without subversion from outside and illegitimate tactics on the part of the minority in this country.

PM and posted. Please feel free to respond privately or in thread.


114 posted on 09/18/2010 1:43:09 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL OR REBEL! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: aquila48

I think you go off the rails a bit in point 3. It is all true but goes more into side-effects than the main issue. (No one would be for deliberately proliferating violent crime.) See what you think of my statement in 114.


115 posted on 09/18/2010 1:48:13 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL OR REBEL! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: hylandia; humblegunner; Eaker; 50mm; Salamander; TheOldLady; Allegra; Markos33; Larry Lucido; ...
"Why is Illegal Immigration Wrong?"

Because illegal immigrants have babies who grow up to be people like you.

116 posted on 09/18/2010 1:54:16 AM PDT by shibumi (I have become everything I used to pretend I was.)
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To: hylandia; humblegunner; Eaker; 50mm; Salamander; TheOldLady; Allegra; Markos33; Larry Lucido; ...
Here, I'll make it real easy for you:


117 posted on 09/18/2010 1:58:18 AM PDT by shibumi (I have become everything I used to pretend I was.)
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To: hylandia
in past times, people could flood this country and fend for themselves....

but there was no free medical and welfare and SSI and soup kitchens etc....of course there was very little taxation as well....

now look.....

we citizens are mandated to pay income tax, and SS tax, and Medicare tax....and to get car insurance....

we have no choice...

but we have an implied contract.....we pay as good citizens will do and there will be a little money for you when you reach 62, and health care when you reach 65....we'll have good schools and highways .....

IOWS....we pay for services for now, and for later....WE PAY.....

but you have millions sneaking into our country without paying all that citizens do and they are bankrupting SS and Medicare, the jail system, overrunning our schools, and our hospitals....

so our taxes are buying us NOTHING....everything promised or implies..SS,Medicare,good schools, good healthcare, etc is being taken away from us....STOLEN by people that have not invested in this country like a citizen....

I beleive in immigration....legal....let these people apply along with the Russians and the VietNamese, and the Pacific Islanders....

118 posted on 09/18/2010 2:02:04 AM PDT by cherry
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To: death2tyrants

Best one yet!!


119 posted on 09/18/2010 2:31:45 AM PDT by Regulator (Watch Out!! The Americans are On the March!! America Forever, Mexico Never!)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

“In fact, it is a reaction, not always well-voiced, to defend our right to govern ourselves by majority consent without subversion from outside and illegitimate tactics on the part of the minority in this country.”

I don’t disagree with that. That’s what I was alluding to with my comment about “being angry with people on this side of the border for letting it happen”.

“I think you go off the rails a bit in point 3. It is all true but goes more into side-effects than the main issue.”

Those side effect are not trivial. They are the unintended consequences of what you call the minority’s scheme to gain power through illegal immigration. They for example may not necessarily want a balkanized country, eventually disintegrating, but they may get it anyway. They may not want terrorists or criminals crossing the border, but they’ll get them anyway. They may not (or may) want a heavier welfare burden, but they’ll get it anyway.

You make the case for why so many people in this country favor illegals (or don’t fight it). I agree with that. What I was pointing out was all the other bad consequences that happen with illegals, whether schemed or not. It’s bad because of all of the above.


120 posted on 09/18/2010 2:35:35 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: hylandia
Welcome to Free Republic Hylandia. I hope that as yo wade through the obligatory wise-cracks you find enough sincere answers to your question.

Enjoy the ride!


(former resident of 'Baghdad by the Bay' also)
121 posted on 09/18/2010 3:28:34 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus)
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To: hylandia
Post and Run

Vanity as First Post
At Least He is Honest with his Stated Position
Perhaps not so much Zot Material as a Strafing Run

122 posted on 09/18/2010 3:49:10 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: hylandia
I live in San Francisco... I am a dyed-in-the-wool liberal... The only one I don't understand is the very, very strong opposition to illegal immigration. ...I am just very interested in exactly why you feel that illegal immigration is so wrong.

As a dyed-in-the-wool San Francisco liberal, you are a compulsive liar. Which means you do understand the opposition to illegal immigration, and you are not interested in why Freepers feel that illegal immigration is so wrong.

What you are into, however, is hit-and-run crank-yanking. And one of the oldest communist tricks is to ask rock-stupid questions and demand answer after answer. Chinese communists would make their prisoners write their autobiographies over and over and over to wear them down and make them doubt themselves. Your pathetic post is your version of that. You come not to learn, but in your own feeble way, to lie and do whatever harm you can.

But you're as hidden as a child with it's hands over it's eyes, because you're a child. As you well know (but think conservatives don't), liberals live in a world of endless sniping and undermining and mocking and sneering at each other - let alone at conservatives - in a seething hell of insecurity and psychological game playing.

And that's what you're trying to do here.

But I have an answer for you anyway, SF liberal, and here it is: liberalism is dying. It is being crushed by people waking up to the fact that the liberal lifestyle is revolting - and not because of sex. Rather, it's revolting because you're moral cowards, and live lives of endless fear and hypocrisy and violence. Because of it, even your own children are turning against you, and politically you're all about to be thrown out on your asses once and for all.

And there's absolutely nothing you can do to stop it.

I hope that doesn't make you sad at the end of the day.

LOL.

123 posted on 09/18/2010 3:52:27 AM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: hylandia
We have laws, the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 included fines for employers of illegal workers and promises of stepped-up border security.

From the beginning it was ignored because man wanted the "cheap" labor but politicians could not get their bosses (Jane and John Public) to agree to new laws that would open the borders wide.

I don't know for sure but I think our Man on Horseback said something like, We Are A Nation Of Laws Not Men. I like that personally. Makes sense.

But followers of Alinksy's "Rules For Spoiled Brats" (whether lefties or Chambers of Commerce) attack us opponents of ILLEGAL immigration by name-calling.. nothing substantive.

124 posted on 09/18/2010 4:09:02 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: hylandia

I understand where you are coming from and I visited Sanfran
sicko when I was young and in the Army -and found it too
perverted even when I was running away from my Christian faith.My ancestors came to America legally from Germany and Ireland before our American War of Northern Aggression/Civil
War (choose one) My Great grandfather could remember having known family who were not born in the USA.I speak only for myself—but What galls about the Mosque at Ground Zero is
pretty much the same as the galling facto of the govt.progressive response to ILLEGAL immigration.-REWARDING
those who have peers and loyalty to those violate our laws.


125 posted on 09/18/2010 4:24:05 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: hylandia
Dear Hylandia:

It's easy.

Legal immigration is the same as welcoming guests into your house through the front door.

Illegal immigration is the same as someone breaking in your back door.

One is a delight, the other is an assault. One respects your property and person, the other doesn't.

126 posted on 09/18/2010 4:42:52 AM PDT by TheWriterTX (Buy Ammo Often)
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To: hylandia; darkwing104; Old Sarge; 230FMJ; 50mm; A.Hun; abigailsmybaby; AFPhys; Aircop_2006; ...
The only one I don't understand is the very, very strong opposition to illegal immigration.

The limited ability to see the big picture is what makes you liberal.

To be added or removed from the VK list, FReepmail Darkwing104.

127 posted on 09/18/2010 4:47:44 AM PDT by 50mm (Go whine someplace else.)
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To: hylandia
ya know... crap like that is usually followed closely by Kitties and Lightning
128 posted on 09/18/2010 5:05:24 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: hylandia
Before we debate this, give me your address. I will be bringing my family. Prepare us dinner, be prepared to pay for all our food, lodging and healthcare. If you are lucky, we may flush the toilet occassionally while making you wait to use it. Afterwhich, we will dump all of our trash throughout your house and yard. When we are sick of you, we will leave unannounced, and possibly set the living room furniture on fire as we walk out the door.

Then we can have this discussion.

129 posted on 09/18/2010 5:07:15 AM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: hylandia
Welcome to FR. You made it pretty far.

The kittens must be asleep.

5.56mm

130 posted on 09/18/2010 5:09:46 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: hylandia; Viking2002; darkwing104; Old Sarge; 50mm
I promise not to post again... so the zotting is a foregone response. I am just very interested in exactly why you feel that illegal immigration is so wrong.

Your life is meaningless. Your existence is pointless. Self-destruction is your only way out.


131 posted on 09/18/2010 5:22:11 AM PDT by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality: Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: hylandia

Illegal = illegal

In other words, AGAINST our laws.

You are a DUMB ASS.

You are a problem and a product of the public school system.

You should not be allowed to ever get near a voting booth in your life.

People like you should be put into the insane asylums.


132 posted on 09/18/2010 5:30:21 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Remember in November. Clean the house on Nov. 2. / Progressive is a PC word for liberal democrat.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

I believe the sanfranciscan IS already in a mental asylum but has access to the internet.


133 posted on 09/18/2010 5:37:51 AM PDT by hal ogen (1st amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: hylandia
You are a worthless pile of steaming donkey excrement. You lay around in the basement of your parent’s (probably don’t have a daddy) home, posting on sites like DU, KOS and HUFFPO. You brag about all the “buddies” you have on the Internet, but don’t realize that no one knows you are a just a lazy bum. You couldn’t pour liquid human excrement out of a boot with instructions written on the top, bottom and both sides. People like you should be in a straight jacket on the way to a prison.

There are other people with your IQ currently serving in the US Congress. Just look at the (d) side of the isle, and you are probably at the top of the IQ list. The swimmer teddy was probably your true political hero, since he is stoned most of the day. Either he was or Robert KKK Byrd may have been. Or are you more on the SAN FRAN NAN side? Maybe B Hussein O is your leftwing hero.

Did you have a few too many snorts of cocaine with your Tequila this morning? Why don’t you go to the local office and collect your stinking food stamps and go buy your liquor and cigarettes for the week? Druggies like you should not be allowed anywhere near a computer. That can be dangerous, since you may accidentally access a porn site and that could affect your IQ even worse at your age.

Just leave us alone to our intelligent political discussion. Well, you don’t know what intelligence is, by your totally ignorant initial post. What is with liberals like you? You have to mess up the Internet with your whiny, juvenile ideas. I know first graders who have much more intellect than you exhibited with your little rant. There is nothing that indicates any amount of intelligence.

Does your mommy know you are alone with her computer? You should be banned from ever being allowed anywhere near any electronics again, since you may accidentally shock yourself. Well, that could do some good and ensure you never reproduce any offspring. Go back to doing what you Dummies do best – trash anyone you disagree with and praise the idiot democrats who hate America.

Whatever the case, you should never be allowed to vote in any election. It takes some understanding of politics to understand that every candidate and his or her supporters agree with and have the courage to ensure that agenda is good for America.

134 posted on 09/18/2010 5:38:30 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Remember in November. Clean the house on Nov. 2. / Progressive is a PC word for liberal democrat.)
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To: hal ogen

You might be correct. People like hylandia who have to axe why ILLEGAL is illegal are not all here.


135 posted on 09/18/2010 5:46:03 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Remember in November. Clean the house on Nov. 2. / Progressive is a PC word for liberal democrat.)
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To: hylandia
I live in San Francisco, and I think you all know what that implies.

You're gay?

136 posted on 09/18/2010 5:56:09 AM PDT by cowboyway (Molon labe)
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To: VeniVidiVici

I can see how some people might see my original post as a hit-and-run trolling post. However, my point was not to start a debate (on this issue at least, I don’t think I could possibly keep up with the flood of responses). My point was simply to try to understand why people, on the other side of the aisle, are against illegal immigration. You hear a lot in the media about the problem of illegal immigration, but you actually hear very little about the why.


137 posted on 09/18/2010 6:00:51 AM PDT by hylandia
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To: hylandia
I can see how some people might see my original post as a hit-and-run trolling post. However, my point was not to start a debate (on this issue at least, I don’t think I could possibly keep up with the flood of responses). My point was simply to try to understand why people, on the other side of the aisle, are against illegal immigration. You hear a lot in the media about the problem of illegal immigration, but you actually hear very little about the why.

Soooo, was your question answered?
138 posted on 09/18/2010 6:02:09 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Let this chant follow BHO everywhere he goes: "You lie. You lie. You lie.")
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To: paulycy

Nice graphic!


139 posted on 09/18/2010 6:10:28 AM PDT by 50mm (Go whine someplace else.)
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To: RandallFlagg; cowboyway

Yes, it was. Thank you to most of you for the reasoned responses.

And thank you cowboyway, for the hilarious response.


140 posted on 09/18/2010 6:13:16 AM PDT by hylandia
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To: 50mm

I found it somewhere awhile back. Did I get it from you? (I try not to swipe many FReepers pics.)


141 posted on 09/18/2010 6:15:45 AM PDT by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality: Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: paulycy

It’s not mine. I was just admiring it.


142 posted on 09/18/2010 6:17:48 AM PDT by 50mm (Go whine someplace else.)
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To: 50mm

Yeah, I liked it too. I think I found it around Halloween last year. I usually do my own but this one is cool.


143 posted on 09/18/2010 6:19:46 AM PDT by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality: Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: 50mm; darkwing104

IATZ!


144 posted on 09/18/2010 6:29:37 AM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: hylandia
Yes, it was. Thank you to most of you for the reasoned responses.

So what did you learn from your little exercise here?

Do you understand why? Do you have any arguments against the positions written here? What is your stance on illegal (non-legal) immigration?

I am a dyed-in-the-wool liberal and nearly everyone I interact with daily is as well.

Will you have conversations with your liberal friends about what you have gleaned from this thread besides talking about the cute pictures?

145 posted on 09/18/2010 6:35:38 AM PDT by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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To: hylandia
Seriously?
146 posted on 09/18/2010 6:48:07 AM PDT by zzeeman (Existence exists.)
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To: hylandia

You don’t see why ILLEGAL immigration is so bad?
Okay.
Put a sign out in front of your house saying that you are unarmed, and that all lawbreakers are welcome.
Let hundreds or thousands of illegals enter your house.
After they are done, look at what you have left.
That is, if you haven’t been raped and murdered beforehand.
You can thank me for the dose of reality after they are done with you.


147 posted on 09/18/2010 7:05:34 AM PDT by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: hylandia

It is very immoral.

It is a form of slavery....the advantage is primarily to the employer as it relieves him of the obligation to pay social security, medicare and workman’s compensation on the illegal employee.

This has two consequences

It permits the exploitation of the employee..denying them the basic protections granted American citizens under employment and civil rights law.

It dilutes the integrity of that law for legal employees. Ultimately it weakens our institutions which then benefits principally the employer, who can then take advantage of the American employee.

It occurs because we have a fascist government.


148 posted on 09/18/2010 7:11:24 AM PDT by mo
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To: hylandia

Obama, King of DERP
149 posted on 09/18/2010 7:11:24 AM PDT by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: hylandia
Great Old Spice Body Wash because you smells funny.
150 posted on 09/18/2010 7:26:53 AM PDT by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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