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Boy who found lighter suspended from NJ school
ap ^ | September 23, 2010

Posted on 09/23/2010 9:24:53 AM PDT by JoeProBono

JAMESBURG, N.J. (AP) -- Officials suspended a fifth-grader in New Jersey who found a lighter on his way to school.

Jamesburg school superintendent Gail Verona told The Home News Tribune of East Brunswick the lighter had the potential to compromise student safety.

But the 11-year-old boy's father questioned why school officials consider the lighter a weapon.

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TOPICS: Education; Society
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; democrats; education; governmentschools; jamesburg; liberalfascism; lping; nj; publiceducation; publicschools; weapons; zerotolerance
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1 posted on 09/23/2010 9:24:55 AM PDT by JoeProBono
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To: JoeProBono

More educational idiocy on parade.


2 posted on 09/23/2010 9:30:38 AM PDT by dainbramaged (If you want a friend, get a pit bull.)
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To: JoeProBono

Patrick Halpin called police Wednesday to say there were weapons on school property because teachers at the Grace Breckwedel Middle School had lighters in the building.

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Really? I wouldn’t be too sure about that. If school policy prohibits lighters for EVERYONE (kids and teachers) then this is a weak claim.

In any event. The child and his father need further indoctrination into the wonderfulness of a zero tolerance school policy.

(barf)


3 posted on 09/23/2010 9:30:38 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: JoeProBono

This story neglects to mention the more serious and widespread threat to our schools. Sticks! On nearly every schoolyard in America, one can find these tools of Satan lurking, which can be rubbed together by children to spark violent conflagrations!

What’s even more devious, is that sticks can be easily sharpened on the asphalt of the outdoor basketball courts to fashion deadly weapons. Even without sharpening, a heavy, blunt stick, can easily crush the delicate skulls of our innocents. Clearly sticks are a most heinous violation of our precious zero-tolerance policies and must be expunged from our schools forthwith!


4 posted on 09/23/2010 9:33:22 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: JoeProBono

Guess what, TSA doesn’t consider lighters as weapons now. Why would NJ schools? Oh yeah, whatever happened to common sense? Have we arrived at zero tolerance for common sense now?


5 posted on 09/23/2010 9:38:25 AM PDT by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: JoeProBono
"...Jamesburg Police Chief Martin Horvath says he believes the school took appropriate action..."

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That part from the article is especially unfortunate.
Police Chief Horvath is yet another statist automaton.

6 posted on 09/23/2010 9:38:32 AM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Boogieman

7 posted on 09/23/2010 9:38:54 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: Boogieman

These idiots would have gone bonkers over my old high school chemistry lab!!

Why we even had concentrated Nitric and Sulpheric Acids as well as metallic Soduim and Lithium. Come th think of it, we even had Glycerine!


8 posted on 09/23/2010 9:41:04 AM PDT by catman67
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To: catman67

Oh...Forgot to mention that we had a rifle range in the basement as well!


9 posted on 09/23/2010 9:42:13 AM PDT by catman67
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To: JoeProBono
The superintendent says a weapon is anything that "has the potential to cause harm."
How 'bout a Websters up side your pin head Mr. Stuperintendent.
10 posted on 09/23/2010 9:43:00 AM PDT by dblshot (Insanity - electing the same people over and over and expecting different results.)
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To: catman67

Not to mention playing mumbly peg at recess.


11 posted on 09/23/2010 9:44:19 AM PDT by dblshot (Insanity - electing the same people over and over and expecting different results.)
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To: JoeProBono

As a little boy in elementary school I carried a Boy Scout (Cub Scout?) knife and a Zippo lighter as part of my EDC.


12 posted on 09/23/2010 9:45:21 AM PDT by ansel12 ([fear of Islam.] Once you are paralyzed by fear of Mohammedanism...you have lost the battle.)
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To: dblshot

13 posted on 09/23/2010 9:46:26 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: JoeProBono

I see you’ve found one of the terrorist training manuals that are being used to corrupt our youth! How did we ever let this happen in America?


14 posted on 09/23/2010 9:47:54 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: JoeProBono; All

I’m actually an alumnae of said institution! It was at that time a junior high.


15 posted on 09/23/2010 9:50:52 AM PDT by j.argese (Liberal thought process = oxymoron)
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To: dblshot

16 posted on 09/23/2010 9:54:30 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: dblshot

“The superintendent says a weapon is anything that “has the potential to cause harm.”

So what can we do? Amputate the hands and feet of all schoolkids? They could still headbutt each other, guess we better lop those off too.


17 posted on 09/23/2010 9:55:56 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: JoeProBono

Last week my 11th grade son in government school asked to borrow my grill lighter. His Chemistry teacher asked the students in the AP class to each bring in a lighter for a lab because the school could not afford it due to budget cuts. I asked him if he will get in trouble for bringing a banned item to school; his response was the teacher told them to be sure to hide it so they don’t get into trouble...


18 posted on 09/23/2010 9:59:34 AM PDT by rightsmart
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To: JoeProBono
Officials suspended a fifth-grader in New Jersey who found a lighter on his way to school..... the 11-year-old boy's father questioned why school officials consider the lighter a weapon.

Well, if you flick a lighter, and you happen to have one of those old time bombs, the black ones with the fuse, you could light the bomb with the lighter.

Q.E.D.

19 posted on 09/23/2010 10:05:17 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The battle lines are drawn: On one side, are Dems and Repubs. On the other, the Tea Party (us).)
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To: rightsmart

Steam Powered Potato Pistol


20 posted on 09/23/2010 10:07:37 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: catman67

“These idiots would have gone bonkers over my old high school chemistry lab!!”

Ah the old science labs were rife with dangerous stuff, weren’t they? I remember in elementary school, our teacher taught us how to distill alcohol, and me and a friend promptly went home, set up the old home chemistry set, and tried to distill some brandy to make it stronger. Needless to say, heating brandy in a test tube over the stovetop did not result in the effect we hoped for :)


21 posted on 09/23/2010 10:11:54 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: JoeProBono

“Steam Powered Potato Pistol”

Very cool, but I suspect someone has too much free time on their hands!


22 posted on 09/23/2010 10:14:45 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: JoeProBono

Have you ever been hit with a book? OUCH!


23 posted on 09/23/2010 10:15:30 AM PDT by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: JoeProBono

A weapon? Obviously the left has lost its collective mind.


24 posted on 09/23/2010 10:19:42 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Annoying liberals is my goal. I will not be silenced.)
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To: JoeProBono

I remember formulating nitrogen tri-iodide crystals in Jr. High School and scattering them in the hallway before class change. Good times! Countless hours were also wasted collecting dead batteries and salvaging them for the zinc. We would dissolve the zinc in Muriatic acid to produce hydrogen gas which we would capture in balloons. We would tie off the balloon with a string which we would then set on fire and release. The resulting fireballs were glorious. To this day, I don’t know why we hated the planet so much. If people get their panties in a twist over a lighter, I’m sure if a kid did anything that was remotely scientific, they would live out their days in a Homeland Security compound. Remember Kids! Science is Magic Made Dangerous!


25 posted on 09/23/2010 10:20:29 AM PDT by davius (You can roll manure in powdered sugar but that don't make it a jelly doughnut.)
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To: catman67

Our rifle range at high school was under the visitor’s bleachers, had an eight thick concrete roof over head.

And the arms room had about 40 .22 rifles and 50 or so demilled 1903 Springfields not to mention various and sundry arms that were in transit.

Ah the good ol days ;-)

Regards

alfa6 ;>}


26 posted on 09/23/2010 10:21:23 AM PDT by alfa6
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27 posted on 09/23/2010 10:24:43 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: JoeProBono
Jamesburg Police Chief Martin Horvath says he believes the school took appropriate action.

Another reason why "Cops Cause Crime": Blind and deaf bureaucratic, institutional loyalty replaces common sense.

28 posted on 09/23/2010 10:25:47 AM PDT by bvw
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To: JoeProBono

LMAO! Great costume for Halloween: jihad or treat!


29 posted on 09/23/2010 10:28:11 AM PDT by kevao
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To: bvw

99.9% of cops give the other.01 a bad name.

I laugh hysterically at the fools on this site getting behind “law enforcement” as if they are behind you, the taxpayer.


30 posted on 09/23/2010 10:28:56 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote
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To: JoeProBono
Belts have the potential to be used to disrupt class or to be used as a weapon. In my improvised weapons class in the Army we were shown how pens and pencils can be used as improvised punch daggers.
31 posted on 09/23/2010 10:30:25 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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32 posted on 09/23/2010 10:31:27 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: JoeProBono

Wonder how soon expelling gas will be considered a weapon?


33 posted on 09/23/2010 10:34:58 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: catman67

“Sulpheric” = Sulfuric


34 posted on 09/23/2010 10:36:15 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: taxcontrol
Where I grew up a garrison belt was always a handy item


35 posted on 09/23/2010 10:37:49 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: JoeProBono

We played with pocket knives and the target was between the other kids feet as the game went on the kid moved his feet closer and closer making a smaller target. If he quit he lost unless the thrower missed and kit his foot first. Luckly we wore good shoes! THe board game is a bit before my time.


36 posted on 09/23/2010 10:38:26 AM PDT by dblshot (Insanity - electing the same people over and over and expecting different results.)
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To: JoeProBono
Now banned in Taxachusetts.

Mass. bans novelty lighters

37 posted on 09/23/2010 10:48:00 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Liberalism can be summed up thusly: someone craps their pants and we all have to wear diapers)
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To: JoeProBono
Steam Powered Potato Pistol

Uh, you can hold that one.

38 posted on 09/23/2010 10:49:12 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Liberalism can be summed up thusly: someone craps their pants and we all have to wear diapers)
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To: JoeProBono

The time has come to stop tolerating incompetent school administrators and teachers.
We must take back the school boards, and kick-out unions, and NEA.


39 posted on 09/23/2010 10:53:24 AM PDT by J Edgar
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To: Boogieman

Reminds me of what an old Ph.D said once to some technicians, when one of his experiments exploded in the lab: “Well, that’s R&D. Clean it up.”


40 posted on 09/23/2010 10:54:06 AM PDT by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: davius
In seventh or eighth grade science class I used the electric + weak acid in water to generate about a pint or so of hydrogen gas into a full width mouth glass container;and then lit it!

The flash was seen in all eight or ten classrooms and the offices,and there was a satisfying "pow".No glass breakage,no injuries,..but it did surprise EVERYONE involved.Oh, and no undue concern or stupid punishments,either.

41 posted on 09/23/2010 10:57:40 AM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: JoeProBono

The libs would pee their pants!


42 posted on 09/23/2010 11:09:11 AM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: JoeProBono

Maybe they were afraid he was going to burn a Koran.


43 posted on 09/23/2010 11:37:51 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: equalitybeforethelaw
Guess what, TSA doesn’t consider lighters as weapons now.

Really Then when I fly in two weeks I can actually leave my lighters in my purse and not have to hide them in my suitcase? Awesome!

44 posted on 09/23/2010 11:38:32 AM PDT by RikaStrom (Pray for Obama - Psalm 109:8 "Let his days be few; and let another take his place of leadership.")
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To: dainbramaged

the next kid that picks a booger and shows it to a friend will be suspended


45 posted on 09/23/2010 12:21:01 PM PDT by MissDairyGoodnessVT (No more oil change for you and no more TIME Magazine covers =^..^=)
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To: davius
Countless hours were also wasted collecting dead batteries and salvaging them for the zinc. We would dissolve the zinc in Muriatic acid to produce hydrogen gas which we would capture in balloons

I never did that.

Milk Bottle tops and Caustic Soda.

46 posted on 09/23/2010 2:36:36 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Pardon him...he is a barbarian, and thinks that the customs of his tribe ... are the laws of nature)
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To: JoeProBono; DixieOklahoma; reuben barruchstein; theprophetyellszambolamboromo; Alusch; ...
e-mail the idiots
 
Gail S. Verona Ed.D
Superintendent of Schools
 
Jamesburg Public Schools
13 Augusta Street
Jamesburg, NJ 08831
Main Office: 732-521-0303
Fax: 732-521-1267
 
Chief of Police
Martin Horvath
732.521.0011 ext. 205

mhorvath@jamesburgborough.org

47 posted on 09/23/2010 7:57:39 PM PDT by Coleus (Abortion, Euthanasia & FOCA - - don't Obama and the Democrats just kill ya!)
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To: JoeProBono
How do you think this would go over? Photobucket More about this here http://www.orau.org/PTP/collection/atomictoys/GilbertU238Lab.htm
48 posted on 09/23/2010 8:23:25 PM PDT by Hotmetal (Support the castle, defend the flag. 858TH Engineering Battalion)
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To: JoeProBono; SheLion; Gabz; Hank Kerchief; 383rr; libertarian27; traviskicks; bamahead; CSM; ...

The were right to suspend the boy: he was obviously planning to burn the school down, or even worse, light up a smoke! /s

Nanny state PING!


49 posted on 09/23/2010 8:26:32 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Muslims are not the problem, the rest of the world is! /s)
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To: JoeProBono
...the lighter had the potential to compromise student safety.

So do lots of other things, oh genius administrator.

Basing judgment on the potential for something to go wrong is lazy and pedantic.

Is it a job requirement for education administrators to lack basic judgment?

Every person who drives a vehicle has the potential to kill people. Shall we lock them all up?

Absurd.

50 posted on 09/23/2010 8:34:10 PM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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