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Profanity: How small minds try to speak with strength? (Vanity)
Kittle House on Unaka | September 23, 2010 | don-o

Posted on 09/23/2010 4:10:41 PM PDT by don-o

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1 posted on 09/23/2010 4:10:45 PM PDT by don-o
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m on my soapbox again. Thank you for providing it. I want it to be better and better and an inviting place for all.


2 posted on 09/23/2010 4:12:17 PM PDT by don-o ("At this point, Islam is just surging into a vacuum" - Mrs Don-o)
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To: don-o

Wtf?


3 posted on 09/23/2010 4:12:38 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: don-o

As someone who has been guilty of this I pledge to refrain from this in the future.


4 posted on 09/23/2010 4:13:03 PM PDT by Eyes Unclouded ("The word bipartisan means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out." -George Carlin)
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To: trisham

ping


5 posted on 09/23/2010 4:13:43 PM PDT by don-o ("At this point, Islam is just surging into a vacuum" - Mrs Don-o)
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To: don-o

My grandmother always told me profanity was how the feeble minded express themselves with force... I miss her dearly.


6 posted on 09/23/2010 4:14:19 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (FR Class of 1998 | TV News is an oxymoron. | MSNBC = Moonbats Spouting Nothing But Crap.)
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To: don-o

The use of profanity is evidence of passion, not all of it misguided. However, the English language is rich enough to offer better and more profound alternatives, and those who seek them will usually win the argument.


7 posted on 09/23/2010 4:14:58 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: don-o

Thanks, and your thread title is so good I’m saving it for future use....


8 posted on 09/23/2010 4:15:04 PM PDT by Yossarian (A pro-life democrat is one who holds out for something in return for his pro-abortion vote.)
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To: goseminoles

What do you mean?


9 posted on 09/23/2010 4:15:38 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: goseminoles

Not necessary ... time to clean it up a little. If we want to be potty mouths over here, we just emulate the Daily Koz ... been over there lately? It’s a cesspool. We can make intelligent statements here without shouting from the gutter. Hopefully, we’re a “notch above” DK. IMHO


10 posted on 09/23/2010 4:15:38 PM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (You are just jealous because the voices aren't talking to YOU!)
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To: don-o

yer so vain.


11 posted on 09/23/2010 4:16:04 PM PDT by mmercier (bloodletting)
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To: don-o

Honestly, its many of the same freepers here. But technology and texting language has grwon exponentially in the 10 or 12 yrs since we started. Vulagarity isn’t the problem. Its just plain nastiness amongst its members. Besides, we aren’t the mods and the deserving few get zotted.


12 posted on 09/23/2010 4:17:03 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: don-o; blackie; ExTexasRedhead
Ten reasons why I swear

1. It pleases mother so much.
2. It is a fine mark of manliness/ladiness.
3. It proves I have self control.
4. It indicates how clearly my mind operates.
5. It makes my conversation so pleasing to everybody.
6. It leaves no doubt in anyone's mind as to my good breeding.
7. It impresses people that I have more than ordinary education.
8. It is and unmistakable sign or culture and refinement.
9. It makes me a very desirable personality among men, women and children and in respectable society.
10. It is my way of honoring God who said, "Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain."

13 posted on 09/23/2010 4:17:03 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: don-o
I'm guessing it's younger members who don't feel socially stigmatized by speaking rudely in public. And then the anonymity emboldens them.

-PJ

14 posted on 09/23/2010 4:18:12 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
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To: Yossarian

Thanks. We make fun of the DUmmies and the KOS kiddies for the streams of sewage found there. We intuit that it’s a lack of coherent ideas that relegates them to the street language. We are nowhere near like those pits; let’s work to make the demarcation even more striking.


15 posted on 09/23/2010 4:19:13 PM PDT by don-o ("At this point, Islam is just surging into a vacuum" - Mrs Don-o)
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To: don-o

I completely agree.

Pretty much every time I see obscenities, I ping the mods to it. FReerepublic does not need to descent to a DU lookalike.

Now I myself on occasion will use a “don’t give a damn” or “What the hell...” but in my mind, that’s something I don’t think a parent would bristle over if their nine year old read it.

But the various slang words used to describe male and female anatomy seem to be showing up more and more. I even see threads that have words describing self-gratification in the title, I can’t help but think they are not really needed and posted just to push the envelope.

Overall, I would have to compliment the mods on doing a pretty stand up job. FR is not a day care center by any means, but it’s not yet turned into a biker bar!!


16 posted on 09/23/2010 4:20:30 PM PDT by djf (It is ISLAM or "We, the People..." Take your pick. THERE IS NO MIDDLE GROUND!!!)
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To: Keith in Iowa

Your grandmother was right. I never heard my grandmother use even the mildest of epithets. She was a lady, a concept that is foreign to some these days.


17 posted on 09/23/2010 4:20:54 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

I’ve been guilty myself because some of the issues we deal with are hot topics that get the blood boiling. Is cursing worse that some of the blatent scurting of other rules? IE- islam, homosexuality, or race? Those posts can be nastier than cursing IMHO.


18 posted on 09/23/2010 4:20:54 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: Eyes Unclouded

That is a good thing. I consider this thread a success based on that one post alone!


19 posted on 09/23/2010 4:21:17 PM PDT by don-o ("At this point, Islam is just surging into a vacuum" - Mrs Don-o)
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To: don-o
You're right. I can do better.


20 posted on 09/23/2010 4:23:04 PM PDT by labette ( Humble student of Thinkology)
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To: MamaDearest

My 15 year old son has been asked by kids at school why he doesn’t swear. He says “cuz I’m a Christian”. One of his friends asked him what that had to do with it. He mentioned the “taking the Lord’s name in vain” - but also realized that didn’t cover most of the words.

So we told him to look in his Bible and gave him some topics to look up in the back - “vularity”, “profanity”, etc.

Just off the top of my head I told him that most of the times when folks swear they are either angry (loss of self-control) or are talking disrespectfully of someone. Neither of which are good examples of a Christian.


21 posted on 09/23/2010 4:23:27 PM PDT by 21twelve ( You can go from boom to bust, from dreams to a bowl of dust ... another lost generation.)
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To: don-o

Why buy a pit bull when you can use the f-word in public?


22 posted on 09/23/2010 4:23:49 PM PDT by Crawdad (Obamacare will lead to back-alley physicals.)
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To: don-o

For the most part I hate profanity. I believe there are rare occasions where it’s appropriate, but the casual use of profanity is disgusting to me.


23 posted on 09/23/2010 4:24:53 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: don-o

“The first Freepers held one another to a high standard of discourse. “

But most of them have been banned.


24 posted on 09/23/2010 4:26:18 PM PDT by Inappropriate Laughter (Obama: Another illegal alien living in public housing)
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To: goseminoles

I understand the temptation, but think of what some of the other sites are like. Is this what we want for Free Republic?


25 posted on 09/23/2010 4:26:18 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Crawdad

“Why buy a pit bull when you can use the f-word in public?”

Let’s not be language police. That’s liberal ideology. That said, JimRob has every right to exclude who he wishes on HIS site.


26 posted on 09/23/2010 4:26:45 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: don-o

Oh, for crying out loud - quit your frealling whining.


27 posted on 09/23/2010 4:27:51 PM PDT by svcw
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To: trisham

I was married to my beloved wife for 12 years before she passed, way, way too young.

And in all those years, not once did she curse. Not one single time.

Now, just between you and me, I’m pretty sure a few times she was thinking it!, but it never came out.
A true lady.
Don’t see alot of ladies these days.


28 posted on 09/23/2010 4:28:37 PM PDT by djf (It is ISLAM or "We, the People..." Take your pick. THERE IS NO MIDDLE GROUND!!!)
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To: don-o

“The first Freepers held one another to a high standard of discourse”

This, to me, is more important than using or not using a particular word, although I do agree that we should all do a better job of self-editing. If I’m passionate about an issue and say “that’s BS!”, no I don’t think I’m “swearing” but yes, I could as easily use a different phrase. When one gets to the point of substituting letters (unless it’s done to clean-up a direct quote), then it’s just an attempt to skirt the rules.

But when we use euphemisms or thinly-disguised non-swear words to describe other FReepers who we happen to disagree with, or even public figures like Michele Obama or Hillary, that’s sinking to the KOS-DU level of discourse, and dishonors the privilege we have of sharing ideas and opinions here.


29 posted on 09/23/2010 4:29:09 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: trisham

“Is this what we want for Free Republic?”

No. It isn’t. I don’t visit those other sites but I can only imagine,


30 posted on 09/23/2010 4:29:09 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: don-o

I shall join you on your soapbox. As a retired English teacher, I always considered the use of profanity as a profound lack of vocabulary.

Perhaps I’m getting old and have not as much tolerance as I should. But, my children and grandchildren respect my sensibilities and will not swear in my presence. Nor will they wear ball caps at my dinner table. They were taught manners and decorum. I pray that they use them out of my sight. I believe that they do. (But, I could also be the world’s biggest fool.)


31 posted on 09/23/2010 4:29:12 PM PDT by Rushmore Rocks
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To: trisham

Apparently your Grandma wasn’t Italian or live in the Bronx...........


32 posted on 09/23/2010 4:29:14 PM PDT by svcw
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To: don-o

We do make the site stronger and our thoughts better stated when profanity is not used.

We also differentiate ourselves from liberals and their DU-type sites, where no thought can be expressed except, it seems, in vulgar or profane terms.


33 posted on 09/23/2010 4:29:44 PM PDT by fightinJAG (Step away from the toilet. Let the housing market flush.)
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To: don-o

I don’t remember the source, but here is an excellent quote: “Cursing is the attempt of week mind to express itself forcefully.”


34 posted on 09/23/2010 4:30:29 PM PDT by NoRats
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To: ViLaLuz
For the most part I hate profanity. I believe there are rare occasions where it’s appropriate, but the casual use of profanity is disgusting to me.

Totally agree. My favorite internet picture ever is the guy holding his head, captioned "Oh Jeeze......"

It's perfect for those times when the same old, same old is trotted out, such as the Iranian nutjob threatening to rain fire down on us.

But, I suppose everyone thinks their decision to "go blue" is justified. I'm just calling for a wee bit of consideration before we "go there."

35 posted on 09/23/2010 4:30:33 PM PDT by don-o ("At this point, Islam is just surging into a vacuum" - Mrs Don-o)
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To: djf
thank you for your service...

sheesh.

37 posted on 09/23/2010 4:33:52 PM PDT by mmercier (the powerpuff girls)
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To: don-o

When I went to work at the factory last winter, I realized I could reduce my vocabulary to two words for everything, which could be noun, verb, adverb, all at once.

I’ve been even more strict with my kids now about not using such talk b/c I’m so bored with it from work.


38 posted on 09/23/2010 4:34:24 PM PDT by Cloverfarm (This too shall pass ...)
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To: don-o

When I first came her in ‘98, there was plenty of coarseness. I was a bit shocked, in fact.

I think you might have a case of nostalgia.


39 posted on 09/23/2010 4:34:30 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am Derek Fenton! (me) Enjoying freedom ourselves requires tolerating it for others. (Jedidah))
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To: don-o

I’m guilty but I also remember different behavior years ago. All I can offer is that we are living in times that really do try men’s souls. The krinton years almost seem idyllic in retrospect. There are days when swearing just doesn’t cover it - and swearing was invented to convey things that polite speech just doesn’t cover. You are right, though, we should try harder to maintain a higher level of discourse and I will work harder at that ideal.

That said, years ago there were absolutely titanic flame wars, too. Invective and insults were rife and posters actually burst into flame and exited FR in spectacular opuses (opii?). Anger and humiliation were part of the trade with some posters. Some things are better today, too.

Just my $0.02.


41 posted on 09/23/2010 4:37:38 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth
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To: trisham; goseminoles

What’s The Fuss


42 posted on 09/23/2010 4:38:48 PM PDT by TheOldLady (Pablo is very wily.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

The rule states “no profanity” not “no coarseness.”


43 posted on 09/23/2010 4:39:00 PM PDT by don-o ("At this point, Islam is just surging into a vacuum" - Mrs Don-o)
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To: Inappropriate Laughter
But most of them have been banned.

Or, sadly, died.

-PJ

44 posted on 09/23/2010 4:39:41 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
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To: goseminoles
That was just meanspirited;)

LOL

45 posted on 09/23/2010 4:39:41 PM PDT by mdittmar (i)
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To: don-o

“Just words...”


46 posted on 09/23/2010 4:39:44 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Playing by the rules only works if both sides do it!)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

“Just my $0.02.”

Does “I’d hit it” cross the line?


47 posted on 09/23/2010 4:40:25 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: don-o

it’s not just here, it’s everywhere. People are becoming increasingly profane to the point where I can’t go anywhere with my children without me and them being assoulted with vulgar and crude language.
It can be summed up to a lack of faith in God and a lack of morality as a nation.


48 posted on 09/23/2010 4:42:46 PM PDT by vpintheak (Love of God, Family and Country has made me an extremist.)
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To: don-o
Yes, but...

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49 posted on 09/23/2010 4:42:56 PM PDT by Canedawg (...still not digging this tyranny thing.)
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To: don-o
My favorite internet picture ever is the guy holding his head, captioned "Oh Jeeze......"

But there was a time when even that picture was tamed down, and not even with **'s.

-PJ

50 posted on 09/23/2010 4:43:47 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
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