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Bill Gates says vaccines can help reduce world population (Video)
Natural News ^ | October 01, 2010

Posted on 10/01/2010 5:25:16 AM PDT by Scythian

(NaturalNews) In a recent TED conference presentation, Microsoft billionaire Bill Gates, who has donated hundreds of millions of dollars to new vaccine efforts, speaks on the issue of CO2 emissions and its effects on climate change.

He presents a formula for tracking CO2 emissions as follows: CO2 = P x S x E x C.

P = People
S = Services per person
E = Energy per service
C = CO2 per energy unit

Then he adds that in order to get CO2 to zero, "probably one of these numbers is going to have to get pretty close to zero."

Following that, Bill Gates begins to describe how the first number -- P (for People) -- might be reduced. He says:

"The world today has 6.8 billion people... that's headed up to about 9 billion. Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent."

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1 posted on 10/01/2010 5:25:21 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian

Looks like he retired from Microsoft to become “god” ... ?


2 posted on 10/01/2010 5:26:59 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian

Bill,
You and your family first. Want to rethink that position?

Pan_Yan


3 posted on 10/01/2010 5:28:57 AM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: Scythian

I give the liberals permission to stop reproducing at any time, you know....


4 posted on 10/01/2010 5:29:07 AM PDT by swatbuznik
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To: Scythian

Gates is prime evidence that intelligence in one area doesn’t necessarily translate into intelligence in other areas.


5 posted on 10/01/2010 5:31:20 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard
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To: Scythian

“Then he adds that in order to get CO2 to zero”

Let me see...zero CO2 means zero life on earth.
Bit extreme, don’tcha think, Bill?


6 posted on 10/01/2010 5:32:00 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: Scythian

As “smart” as these folks think they are, they just plain REFUSE to consider the unintended consequence of reducing atmospheric CO2.

REAL scientists have long demonstrated the direct, CAUSAL link between CO2 PPM and agricultural output and yields.

In other words if we DO manage to REDUCE atmospheric CO2, and reduce CO2 in the global biome, then worldwide, food supplies WILL suffer.

These “smart” people are still stuck on a false premise — that rising CO2 (anthropogenic or otherwise) is a BAD THING.

It just disgusts me that they are either willing participants in this fraud or are just really not that smart after all. I presume the former — they know this is a lie, and it’s really about elites lording over the masses. IOW it’s about money and power.


7 posted on 10/01/2010 5:32:47 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: Scythian

Isaiah 14:12 “How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!”


8 posted on 10/01/2010 5:33:30 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (We are the Patrick Henry we have been waiting for!)
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To: Scythian

All progressives are for population control.
But even a man like Gates should be smart enough to know that without CO2 EVERYTHING dies on earth.

Crap, I barely got out of high school and know this!


9 posted on 10/01/2010 5:34:36 AM PDT by ozark hilljilly (Had enough, yet?)
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To: AlexW

Precisely.

Can he not grasp the concept and reality of the carbon cycle?

http://www.uwsp.edu/geo/faculty/ritter/geog101/textbook/earth_system/carbon_cycle_NASA.jpg

Zero CO2 —> BSOD.


10 posted on 10/01/2010 5:34:59 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: Scythian

from the Georgia Guidestones;

Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.


11 posted on 10/01/2010 5:35:10 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (We are the Patrick Henry we have been waiting for!)
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To: Scythian
I just came up with my own formula. It might not be necessary to wipe out humanity after all.

CO2 = (P x S x E x C)-(PLANTS x AMOUNT OF CO2 EATEN BY PLANTS)

Maybe instead of mass genocide, Bill Gates could plant a vegetable garden or something.
12 posted on 10/01/2010 5:36:53 AM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (Am I my half-brother's keeper?)
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To: Scythian
... reproductive health services...
Translation = abortion
Whose "health" is being served when abortion is nothing more than birth/population control?
13 posted on 10/01/2010 5:36:58 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Scythian
Bill Gates says vaccines can help reduce world population

Why go to all that trouble? Disease can do the same thing on its own. Medical care can be cheap, too: No care. Or, people can just not eat. That will reduce world population.

I think there's an a priori assumption here that reducing people is the point. As you say, start with the Gateses. The head of the household is a dangerous loon.

14 posted on 10/01/2010 5:36:58 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: vanilla swirl

Do we get to pick who stays and goes in that 5 X 10e8?

For example:
Kathy Ireland
Catherine Zeta-Jones
Brooklyn Decker
Sarah Palin ;-p
Elizabeth Hurley (dumb as a sack of rocks, but OMG)
My wife (not shared, sorry)
Erin Andrews
Natalie Coughlin
Your write-in candidates ____________________


15 posted on 10/01/2010 5:39:50 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
Gates is prime evidence that intelligence in one area doesn’t necessarily translate into intelligence in other areas.

Gates was always first and foremost a weasel.

Paul Allen was the brains of the outfit.

16 posted on 10/01/2010 5:41:12 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The only stable state is one in which all men are equal before the law." -- Aristotle)
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To: Scythian

Why do environmentalists want to live in the iceage? Think of all the increased sales in fur coats!


17 posted on 10/01/2010 5:41:31 AM PDT by facedodge (Nothing is so permanent as a temporary government program. ~Friedman)
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To: Scythian

True capitalism and economic freedom will do the best job and ethically. The more prosperous a country becomes, the lower the birth rate. Look it up.


18 posted on 10/01/2010 5:42:03 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Scythian
I know this will be unpopular here, but I agree that at the very least the population growth rate must come down. The world cannot handle exponential growth of the human race IMO. Flame away.
19 posted on 10/01/2010 5:42:27 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: Scythian

>>> Bill Gates says vaccines can help reduce world population (Video)

I don’t have the spare bandwidth to watch this but if I was Bill and making the argument, I would be saying that improved healthcare would reduce the third world need for “spare” children. This then leading to a net decrease in total population.

If they were confident that two or three would survive to adulthood, they could follow the trend of the first world and have smaller families.


20 posted on 10/01/2010 5:42:56 AM PDT by tlb
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To: Scythian

Over-simplified headline. Seems to me he was aiming at the ‘healthy population has a lower birth-rate’ result, not that vaccines would kill off up to 10% of the people. Let’s keep at least one foot on the ground, people.


21 posted on 10/01/2010 5:43:39 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("It's amazing, A man who has such large ears could be so tone deaf" Rush Limbaugh 9/8/10)
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To: Scythian

Bill Gates’ ideas are completely asinine. Wouldn’t improving vaccines and health care lead to a higher population? I didn’t bother reading the article at the link. Furthermore, when he talks about “reproductive health services”, is he referring to killing unborn babies? I have no respect for the guy.


22 posted on 10/01/2010 5:45:16 AM PDT by ReluctantDragon
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To: Scythian

It seems to me that vaccines and health care would result in people’s living longer and producing more surviving offspring, resulting in a higher global population.

The “reproductive health” - sterilization and abortion - must be his real point. Death Eater Gates. Off yourself, first.


23 posted on 10/01/2010 5:45:36 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Beware of the owrk!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Free markets and personal responsibility can take care of that....not Ecoscience weirdos on a power trip.

Btw, there is a lot of unused land in this world - these population explosion claims seem a little silly - JMO.


24 posted on 10/01/2010 5:45:59 AM PDT by Darryl Lecht ("Head down over a saddle.")
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To: Scythian
Looks to me like Bill should have stayed in college.

It's not much of a "vaccine" if it results in a population decrease.

25 posted on 10/01/2010 5:46:56 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: Scythian

yeah I bet they could, you freakin maniac.

Why do you think millions REFUSED the hini vaccine

COMMUNIST

BTW

MICROSOFT MSN PRODUCTS -— pitiful


26 posted on 10/01/2010 5:47:44 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys)
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To: Darryl Lecht
Free markets and personal responsibility can take care of that....

Guess what? They aren't.
27 posted on 10/01/2010 5:48:27 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: Red in Blue PA

“but I agree that at the very least the population growth rate must come down. “

Population in parts of Asia, Russia, Europe, and the US is leveling off and projected to decrease significantly by 2050.

Latin America and Muslims are still rapidly increasing.


28 posted on 10/01/2010 5:48:44 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Scythian

All these years, I’ve completely misunderstood the purpose of vaccinations.


29 posted on 10/01/2010 5:49:20 AM PDT by jazminerose
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To: Scythian

“Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that (population) by perhaps 10 or 15 percent.”

Huh?????


30 posted on 10/01/2010 5:50:27 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: vanilla swirl

BTW

the “l” word there is a mistranlation of Isaiah done by satan’s monk.

lucifer means light.

satan is dark.

the actual translation should be just plain old satan, no upper case of any kind for the silly loser snake and with the pointing out of how ridiculous satan and his minions are


31 posted on 10/01/2010 5:50:38 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys)
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To: Red in Blue PA

So let’s go the Holdren route? Or piss away billions in a effort to “control” population?


32 posted on 10/01/2010 5:51:52 AM PDT by Darryl Lecht ("Head down over a saddle.")
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To: Red in Blue PA

“Guess what? They aren’t. “

yes they are, populations in developed countries are largely leveling off and shrinking. Japan and South Korea are paying people to have babies as their birth rate is so low.

Without immigration the population here in the US would be fairly level.


33 posted on 10/01/2010 5:51:59 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Many studies have shown that as a population becomes more urban and developed, the growth rate of the population declines.

Japan and Europe are proof of this. Even Latin America and South American countries are having slower population growth rates.

The only group that is really reproducing is or Islamic friends.


34 posted on 10/01/2010 5:52:49 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: driftdiver

I was referring to 3rd world nations.....should have been clearer.


35 posted on 10/01/2010 5:53:17 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: Scythian

I didn’t realize Gates thinks he is above God.


36 posted on 10/01/2010 5:53:38 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Scythian

Anyone who is concerned about world population should immediately kill themselves. It’s a positive action with immediate payoff: problem reduced by 1!


37 posted on 10/01/2010 5:54:44 AM PDT by jboot (Let Christ be true and every man a liar.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
No flame, just a few questions.

1. How do you know your statement is true?
2. How do you know what the proper growth rate is?
3. Are you going to get that answer from all of the alarmists? I dare say that their models are all highly suspect.
4. How do you propose to reduce the growth rate? Mass sterilization? Chinese-type laws? Political correctness run amok?

Just curious on a Friday morning.

38 posted on 10/01/2010 6:00:26 AM PDT by Pecos (Liberty and Honor will not die on my watch.)
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To: Red in Blue PA; Scythian; Pecos; driftdiver
I highly suggest viewing this;demographic winter

It points out that the population bomb idea started in the sixties was wrong and populations will be declining. The full thing is also on Youtube in an 11 part series.

39 posted on 10/01/2010 6:02:20 AM PDT by lost in the snow
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To: Scythian
P = People
S = Services per person
E = Energy per service
C = CO2 per energy unit

What an idiot. Was this guy ever an engineer or systems analyst? Does he have any mathematical training? I mean really, how did he ever succeed in a technical field like software?

His simplistic equation (and that is being very kind) assumes that all people use the same mix of services, that all services use the same kinds and amounts of energy per use, that all energy production results in the same CO2 levels per energy unit, that there are no economies of scale, that there are no changes in services, energy production, etc. In other words, this equation is uselessly simple. Then again, it may work for un-educated liberals.

Furthermore, the entire premise of his statement is based on fallacy. Even if you take P to zero it will have, for all intents, no effect on CO2. Humans contribute less than 3% of the CO2 emitted into the atmosphere each year. Less than 3%. In engineering circles, referring to big complicated systems (like the atmosphere) we'd call that insignificant. Here's a small scale example of that. Go down to your community swimming pool on a hot day when there's dozens of kids splashing around in it. From the curb observe the pool's water level. Now, tell me, is it at 97% of nominal capacity, 103%? Somewhere in-between? And that is giving you a 6% range to estimate in, not just 3%... Oh, and if human activity did drop to zero, don't you think maybe animal populations and activity might increase in our place? Guess what, they'd produce CO2. So the net result would probably be even less than a 3% change.

Gates, you're a fool and your software s**ks. I had to, had to use Windows, Outlook, and msn the other day. Guess what, your own help pages on microsoft.com are wrong, and the combination of your OS, your application, and your service...does not work the way your help pages say it should. You wanted to charge me $35 for help. 15 min of poking around on the Internet (after wasting nearly an hour with ms products and services) finally showed me that it can't be done. Good job. No wonder Apple and Ubuntu are eating your lunch.

40 posted on 10/01/2010 6:02:43 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
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To: Scythian

Hey, Bill Gates, take your vaccine and use it on the Muslim and the third world population, not the ones who can raise families right.


41 posted on 10/01/2010 6:03:42 AM PDT by Buddygirl
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To: Scythian

If I was billionaire, I’d hate to think that I was stupid enough to fall for this sh-t.


42 posted on 10/01/2010 6:03:58 AM PDT by Waco (Bury a pig,,save America.)
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To: Scythian
Bill worships at the altar of Moloch


"The world today has 6.8 billion people... that's headed up to about 9 billion. Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent."


Vaccines save lives but reproductive health services kill people.

Wanna' choose which of these is not like the other?

43 posted on 10/01/2010 6:07:33 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: ThunderSleeps

“What an idiot. Was this guy ever an engineer or systems analyst? Does he have any mathematical training? I mean really, how did he ever succeed in a technical field like software? “

He’s speaking to the level of people he is trying to sell the idea too. They are none of those things.


44 posted on 10/01/2010 6:09:58 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: yldstrk

“no upper case of any kind for the silly loser snake and with the pointing out of how ridiculous satan and his minions are”

Hey, gimme a break, I just copy-pasted (and from a website that espoused “King James only” no less ;-)


45 posted on 10/01/2010 6:11:03 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (We are the Patrick Henry we have been waiting for!)
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To: Scythian

Bill needs more room so let’s get rid of some of these pesky people. /sarcasm


46 posted on 10/01/2010 6:14:18 AM PDT by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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To: Scythian
Drop dead Gates, you mid-tech Patient Zero.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

47 posted on 10/01/2010 6:15:47 AM PDT by The Comedian (Guns, Gold, Food - The guy with the guns ends up with all the gold and food.)
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To: Scythian
if we do a really great job on new vaccines

Bill Gates + John Holdren = Selective Vaccine Genocide

48 posted on 10/01/2010 6:17:30 AM PDT by montag813 (http://www.facebook.com/StandWithArizona)
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To: Red in Blue PA
I was referring to 3rd world nations ...

"Just enough of me, way too many of those brown people."

49 posted on 10/01/2010 6:17:56 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Beware of the owrk!)
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To: NonValueAdded; ReluctantDragon; Tax-chick; The Duke; jazminerose; SumProVita
Over-simplified headline. Seems to me he was aiming at the ‘healthy population has a lower birth-rate’ result, not that vaccines would kill off up to 10% of the people. Let’s keep at least one foot on the ground, people.

We need to take him literally. Vaccines have been developed which train a woman's immune system to attack an embryo. These are given mostly to dark skinned women in developing countries under the cover of a charitable Tetanus vaccination program, withouth the woman's consent that is it also an abortion drug, and will "immunize" them from pregnancy for about ten years. Bill Gates has done this before, back at least to the mid '90s. Anytime you hear about a Tetanus program in the developing world, look who the targets are. Is it exclusively women of child bearing age getting these shots?

Birth Control Vaccine

50 posted on 10/01/2010 6:19:29 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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