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OC district pushes pause on hip-hop curriculum [founding fathers called "old dead white men"]
NewsOK.com ^ | October 1, 2010 | MEGAN ROLLAND

Posted on 10/02/2010 12:12:50 AM PDT by Daffynition

Concern over a new hip-hop curriculum that refers to the founding fathers as "old dead white men" has delayed the program's rollout for at-risk students, Oklahoma City Public Schools Superintendent Karl Springer said.

"We're making sure that whatever we do, first, we do no harm," Springer said. "The science behind the concept is wonderful. There may be some things, though, that are inappropriate that we need to be careful about."

Known as Flocabulary, the program is a music-based educational tool that uses raps, rhythms and rhymes to help students learn and memorize everything from vocabulary and English to math and social studies.

About 15 teachers have complained or expressed concern about the rap song lyrics, said Ed Allen, president of the Oklahoma City American Federation of Teachers.

"I just don't think we were real careful where we deployed it," Allen said. "Not all parts of it are real affective for the more troubled youth."

It is the U.S. history curriculum that has raised concern.

One of the rap songs — "Old Dead White Men" — chronicles the shortcomings of the early leaders in the United States.

Of President James Monroe's tenure, the rap says: "White men getting richer than Enron./ They stepping on Indians, women and blacks./ Era of Good Feeling doesn't come with the facts."

That's followed up by an assessment of President Andrew Jackson's checkered dealings with American Indians.

"Andrew Jackson, thinks he's a tough guy./ Killing more Indians than there are stars in the sky./ Evil wars of Florida killing the Seminoles./ Saying hello, putting Creek in the hell holes./ Like Adolf Hitler he had the final solution./ 'No, Indians, I don't want you to live here anymore.'"

Springer said he was concerned about some of the lyrics, and that's why the district is holding off on the program until it's been evaluated.

Flocabulary CEO and co-founder Alex Rappaport said the lyrics are made intentionally provocative and sometimes humorous to create student engagement among some of the toughest-to-reach students in the nation.

"In general, the purpose of our program is to motivate students, and we often say the enemy here is student apathy," Rappaport said. "We want students to ask questions and challenge assumptions that are made and think critically about historical themes."

Flocabulary is not used as a core textbook but rather as supplemental material that highlights certain academic standards and background knowledge. The rap songs also come with a corresponding guidebook that breaks down the lyrics line by line to explain what they mean.

"Some students are incredibly motivated to go on to read their history textbooks with more passion," Rappaport said.

The Oklahoma City School District has spent about $10,000 so far on the music and corresponding textbooks, Springer said. The Oklahoma City School Board authorized the district to spend up to $97,000 in federal funds on the program.

It was to be mainly used in the district's Extended Education sites, such as juvenile detention centers or hospitals. Springer said before the controversy, it also was to be used at Rogers Middle School.

In June, two of the program's founders visited an Oklahoma City charter school that had purchased the program. They also spoke to district administrators about the benefits of Flocabulary.

The program will begin later this year at Justice Alma Wilson SeeWorth Academy, Superintendent Janet Grigg said.

At SeeWorth, music teacher Henry Rice has been using raps and lyrics for years to help students learn. Last year, his classes wrote, sang and produced a song about the tragedy in Haiti and another about the Holocaust.

"All of our students are 'at promise,'" Grigg said. "They learn in a different way."

Grigg said Flocabulary seemed like a natural fit, and that while the program hasn't been implemented yet, it will be used this year in many courses, especially math.

"We won't be using anything in that program that is offensive," Grigg said. "Our motto is: 'We don't show disrespect, and we don't disrupt learning.'"


TOPICS: Books/Literature; Business/Economy; Education; History
KEYWORDS: curriculum; district; flocabulary; godsgravesglyphs; hiphop; oklahoma; oklahomacity; olddeadwhitemen; pages
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Flocabulary?
1 posted on 10/02/2010 12:12:57 AM PDT by Daffynition
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To: Daffynition

It’s not education it’s indoctrination.


2 posted on 10/02/2010 12:16:03 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: Daffynition
Known as Flocabulary, the program is a music-based educational tool that uses raps, rhythms and rhymes to help students learn and memorize everything from vocabulary and English to math and social studies.

This sounds like something off of a Simpsons episode.

3 posted on 10/02/2010 12:17:09 AM PDT by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: Daffynition

That’s okay - hip hop is largely made by young, dead (from drive by shootings), black men.

Can I say that? Or would that be “racist”?

Then don’t say stuff like “old, dead, white men” about my ancestors please.


4 posted on 10/02/2010 12:19:31 AM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: Daffynition

Casting stupid into stone. That’s our government schools.


5 posted on 10/02/2010 12:25:14 AM PDT by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: Tzimisce
The education system has been intentionally dumbed down. The assault on our culture and values has eroded love of country.

The Weekly Standard 05-18-2009
   Education

Our public schools are deeply entrenched with a socialist, progressive ideology.

6 posted on 10/02/2010 12:43:17 AM PDT by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: MarineBrat

So now we’re teaching history through rap. We’re teaching inaccurate and distorted history through rap. We’re teaching about some complicated historical issues through rap, which doesn’t lend itself to detailed discussions of the history of events such as Andrew Jackson’s presidency.

I am speechless that supposedly education enlightened educators come up with this kind of crap.


7 posted on 10/02/2010 12:45:31 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I wonder if they teach Jackson says bring it.


8 posted on 10/02/2010 12:47:40 AM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Daffynition

Totally and utterly ridiculous. How will young Black men and women EVER learn anything with racist attitudes towards not only Whites but other races pushed onto them by their so called leaders....the same leaders that also prevent them from learning history, art, science, mathematics, music (besides rap) and English properly?


9 posted on 10/02/2010 1:14:39 AM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: Daffynition

Question for Oklahoma City Public Schools Superintendent Karl Springer:
Is stories of “old dead white men” really part of the three R’s?
If not you should be fired, tarred and then feathered, and ridden out of town on a rail blind folded, IN THAT ORDER!


10 posted on 10/02/2010 2:00:11 AM PDT by J Edgar
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To: Daffynition

Sounds like they took the very successful (and clever) concepts behind “Schoolhouse Rock” and perverted them.


11 posted on 10/02/2010 2:08:41 AM PDT by Kieri (The Conservatrarian)
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To: Daffynition
Old dead white men built this country, but as usual, they did the work and someone else does the playing.

There was a show on cable for a while called "Life After People"...they should do one called "Life After White People" to show how fast this country would crumble without them. I would become Haiti in four years. Hell, look what obama has done to it in two years...for example. Never mind Detroit, Atlanta, et al
12 posted on 10/02/2010 2:42:54 AM PDT by FrankR (obama can only be what WE allow him to be.)
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To: Kieri

13 posted on 10/02/2010 2:55:22 AM PDT by Daffynition ("Life Imitates Bacon, but Bacon does not imitate Life. Bacon IS life." ~paulycy)
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To: FrankR
How about “Life After Dead Beats and Government Bureaucrats”?
14 posted on 10/02/2010 2:57:13 AM PDT by poobear ("The greatest tyrannies are always perpetrated in the name of the noblest causes." -- Thomas Paine)
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To: poobear

Same thing, in many cases.


15 posted on 10/02/2010 2:59:36 AM PDT by FrankR (obama can only be what WE allow him to be.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
Let's have a *moment of silence* for the Midnight Ride of Paul Revere 2010 style....


16 posted on 10/02/2010 3:05:18 AM PDT by Daffynition ("Life Imitates Bacon, but Bacon does not imitate Life. Bacon IS life." ~paulycy)
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To: Daffynition
The commies are purposely reaching disrespect for our national heritage, it is nothing less than treason.

The Nation cannot withstand this for long. If American patriots do not find courage to act the Nation will fall!

17 posted on 10/02/2010 3:15:22 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: Daffynition

Some people are just not meant to be taught.


18 posted on 10/02/2010 3:40:48 AM PDT by counterpunch (End the Government Monopoly!)
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To: Daffynition
Flocabulary CEO and co-founder Alex Rappaport
LOL!
That's like a library detective named Bookman, or an ice cream man named Cone.
 
19 posted on 10/02/2010 3:47:26 AM PDT by counterpunch (End the Government Monopoly!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Is it any better if their boring, State-approved textbooks say exactly the same thing, only don’t get any attention? At least this is making the community pay attention to the nonsense their children are being taught.


20 posted on 10/02/2010 3:56:46 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Beware of the owrk!)
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