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Apple ordered to pay up to $625.5 million in damages to Mirror Worlds
Mac Daily News ^ | Monday, October 04, 2010 - 12:23 PM EDT

Posted on 10/04/2010 11:51:19 AM PDT by Swordmaker

"Apple Inc. was ordered by a jury to pay damages to Mirror Worlds LLC for infringing patents related to how documents are displayed on a computer screen," Susan Decker reports for Bloomberg.

"The federal jury in Tyler, Texas, awarded $208.5 million in damages for each of the patents infringed. The verdict form was unclear as to whether the amount applies to the three patents collectively or would be charged individually. Lawyers for closely held Mirror Worlds declined to discuss the verdict," Decker reports.

MacDailyNews Take: Tyler, Texas. Rocket Docket.

Decker reports, "Mirror Worlds, a software business started by a Yale University computer-science professor David Gelernter, claimed Apple’s iPod music device, iPhone and Mac computers infringed its patents. Apple challenged the validity of the patents and whether they were infringed, according to court records. Gelernter said after the verdict he was 'tremendously grateful' to his lawyers for 'their overwhelmingly brilliant performance.'"

Full article here.

MacDailyNews Take: Excessive.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: apple; corruption; extortion; iplaw; lawsuitabuse; lawsuitcorruption; lawyers; legalabuse; legalcorruption; legalextortion; legalrobbery; patent; patentlaw; patents; robbery; rolodex; tort; travesty

1 posted on 10/04/2010 11:51:21 AM PDT by Swordmaker
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; 50mm; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AFreeBird; Airwinger; Aliska; ...
625.5 million dollars for what is essentially a Rolodex® type layout? Absurd! PING!

Please!
No Flame Wars!
Discuss technical issues, software, and hardware.
Don't attack people!
PLEASE!
Don't respond to the Anti-Apple Thread Trolls!
IGNORE THEM!!!


Apple Lawsuit loss Ping!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

2 posted on 10/04/2010 11:53:23 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone!)
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To: Swordmaker
Apple challenges $625.5 million jury verdict in Mirror Worlds patent infringement trial
Monday, October 04, 2010 - 01:00 PM EDT

"Apple Inc. is challenging a jury verdict last week in which the computer maker was ordered to pay as much as $625.5 million to Mirror Worlds LLC for infringing patents related to how documents are displayed digitally," Susan Decker reports for Bloomberg.

"Apple asked U.S. District Judge Leonard Davis for an emergency stay of the Oct. 1 verdict, saying there are outstanding issues on two of the three patents. Apple said patent owner Mirror Worlds would also be 'triple dipping' if it were able to collect $208.5 million on each of the patents," Decker reports. "Closely held Mirror Worlds, founded by Yale University computer-science Professor David Gelernter, sued in 2008, claiming Apple’s iPod music device, iPhone and Mac computers infringed three patents for a way documents are displayed on a computer screen."

Decker reports, "Davis also is considering Apple’s request, filed before the verdict, to rule the company doesn’t infringe two of the patents. The judge said that if he granted that request, he’d strike the amount of damages attributed to those two patents... The case is Mirror Worlds LLC v. Apple Inc., 08cv88, U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Texas (Tyler)."

Read more in the full article here.


3 posted on 10/04/2010 11:56:38 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone!)
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To: Swordmaker
The federal jury in Tyler, Texas,...

Mirror Worlds LLC, the legal entity that filed the complaint, is incorporated in Tyler, Texas,...

That does not sound right to me.

4 posted on 10/04/2010 11:57:00 AM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: Swordmaker
Have no idea about the merits of this case, but incorporating and filing the lawsuit in the Eastern District of TX was no coincidence.
5 posted on 10/04/2010 11:59:06 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Swordmaker

I tend to be anti-Apple (more for fun than any other reason - love getting Apple fans worked up). However, this is just crazy. Along with Microsoft suing Google for Android, these lawsuits are getting out of control. We need a “loser pays” system to stop some of these lawsuits - not that it would have helped here apparently.


6 posted on 10/04/2010 11:59:46 AM PDT by Codeflier (Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama - 4 democrat presidents in a row and counting...)
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To: Codeflier

Patent damages are some of the biggest. The winner is entitled to, at least, a reasonable royalty on the sale of the infringing party’s product.


7 posted on 10/04/2010 12:03:10 PM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

Federal court in Tyler is widely known to be VERY plaintiff friendly.


8 posted on 10/04/2010 12:04:17 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Codeflier

loser pays = deep pockets wins.


9 posted on 10/04/2010 12:06:42 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

Tyler, Texas, has absolutely no tech industry, and not much industry otherwise. It’s biggest employers are the local hospitals and schools. Pretty much every tech company set up there is a temporary shell company created for the purpose of suing a company that actually puts out products.

If all these lawyers worked for the same company, they would probably be the biggest employer in the city.


10 posted on 10/04/2010 12:11:09 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Codeflier

I don’t like Apple or MSFT but this guy posting “do not flame’ when he pimps Apple. We have this guy and another pimping Apple, Willie Green pimping lib train schemes with light rail, Chet with pit bulls, various idiots with semi-satires, devotionals to propserity preachers, idiots poimping for the NFL who cmeared Rush as a racist. Geez.


11 posted on 10/04/2010 12:12:39 PM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: FlipWilson
The winner is entitled to, at least, a reasonable royalty on the sale of the infringing party’s product.

This is only very remotely related to two features of OS X, and they get over half a billion dollars? The court should start confiscating the crack pipes in the jury rooms.

12 posted on 10/04/2010 12:16:19 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Swordmaker
More IP nonsense. Just because one person has a thought, does not mean that someone else wouldn't eventually think of the same thing anyway.

We need to return to TJ's "19 year and then public domain" standard. You can claim forever to have invented a new kind of widget, but you only get exclusivity for a limited time.

And don't even get me started on idiots buying things up and sitting on them never intending to do anything at all with them...

Lawsuit abuse is a travesty.

13 posted on 10/04/2010 12:18:13 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (III, Alarm and Muster)
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To: antiRepublicrat

amount to be honed down on appeal to a substancially lower figure..


14 posted on 10/04/2010 12:30:32 PM PDT by rahbert
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To: Swordmaker

15 posted on 10/04/2010 12:31:54 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
The federal jury in Tyler, Texas,...

Mirror Worlds LLC, the legal entity that filed the complaint, is incorporated in Tyler, Texas,...

That does not sound right to me.

That's exactly how tort (extortion) law works. If the town of Tyler, Texas did not stand to benefit from this lawsuit, the suit either would not have made it to the trial stage or the result would have been different.

British "loser pays" provisions tend to cut down a bit on meritless lawsuits, though they may also cut down on meritorious ones... and there are legal gamblers everywhere.

16 posted on 10/04/2010 12:34:19 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: Frantzie
Geez.

They never get tired of it and eventually wear you down, don't they? I hear ya and feel your pain.

17 posted on 10/04/2010 12:34:32 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: Swordmaker
I am not big on proprietary systems like Apple but law suits like this are akin to legal extortion.
18 posted on 10/04/2010 12:38:22 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the next one...)
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To: Frantzie
idiots poimping for the NFL.

poimping? That could get their beebers stuned.
19 posted on 10/04/2010 12:40:54 PM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: rahbert

Once the appeal cuts this number down to a reasonable amount, I think the original jurors should be on the hook for the difference. These creeps were awefully compassionate with Apple’s money, so I’m sure they won’t mind giving up some of their own.


20 posted on 10/04/2010 1:09:16 PM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: Dead Corpse

“Lawsuit abuse is a travesty.”
*****

Hear, hear!

Jury duty= redistribute that wealth, baby!


21 posted on 10/04/2010 1:46:13 PM PDT by Canedawg (... not digging this tyranny thing.)
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To: Frantzie; Chet; Willie Green
I don’t like Apple or MSFT but this guy posting “do not flame’ when he pimps Apple. We have this guy and another pimping Apple, Willie Green pimping lib train schemes with light rail, Chet with pit bulls, various idiots with semi-satires, devotionals to propserity preachers, idiots poimping for the NFL who cmeared Rush as a racist. Geez.

If you don't like Apple, that's fine. This thread and the others like it aren't meant for you, they're for the five hundred other Freepers who have ASKED me to keep them appraised of news affecting Apple and Apple products. That does not make me a "pimp." You are not required to read them. Just ignore them as I ignore Chet's War on Terriers, Willie Green's light rail articles, and anything to do with the NFL. It's easy.

As to the "Do Not Flame" warnings, that is there because of the severe flame wars that were running rampant in Apple threads a few months ago until Jim Robinson lowered the boom on a few Trolls who were deliberately invading the threads and flaming anyone and everyone, purposfully disrupting discussions. I am reminding everyone proactively of Jim's anti-flame war policy, hoping to prevent a recurrence of that type of event and the necessity of Jim's intervention.

Next time, if you have a concern with a poster, have the courtesy to include the people you mention in your post.

22 posted on 10/04/2010 3:05:54 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone!)
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To: Swordmaker

If this doesn’t show why tort reform is needed nothing will.


23 posted on 10/04/2010 6:16:17 PM PDT by Tribune7 (The Democrat Party is not a political organization but a religious cult.)
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To: Frantzie

It’s on General/Chat. What strange force is it that makes you read these threads you don’t like and then post on them??


24 posted on 10/04/2010 6:19:51 PM PDT by Tribune7 (The Democrat Party is not a political organization but a religious cult.)
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To: Tribune7
What strange force is it that makes you read these threads you don’t like and then post on them??

It's an inner compulsion, a sort of cybernetic Tourette Syndrome.
25 posted on 10/04/2010 6:28:44 PM PDT by aruanan
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