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TRENDING: Obama-Clinton ticket 'on the table,' Woodward says (throwing Biden under the bus)
CNN Political BLog ^ | October 5, 2010 | Alexander Mooney

Posted on 10/05/2010 7:02:52 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople

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To: dsrtsage

This is typical ‘chumming the waters’, softening up the masses, feeding Homer donuts to wake him up. Hillary will be appointed VP when in a few months Joe pinhead Biden has to resign for medical reasons. Then, prior to the race in 2011 heating up too much by Novermber/December, Barry the Bastard will step down and Hillary will serve the remainder and run for the job in 2012. You probably didn’t hear it here first, but don’t doubt me, as Rush says so often.


61 posted on 10/05/2010 10:15:09 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Morg, believing they cannot be deceived, it's nye impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: goseminoles
She will be the ‘12 nominee. Just wish we could come up with one...

Not to worry. She'll announce her run for the nomination soon.

62 posted on 10/05/2010 10:15:47 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: dsrtsage

BTW, when Barry the Bastard steps down, it will be nebulously attributed to hounding over his eligiblity, so the black vote will stay loyal to democrats as the birthers will be solid republican agents as defined by the enemedia. It’s all being set up as we post, FRiend.


63 posted on 10/05/2010 10:18:11 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Morg, believing they cannot be deceived, it's nye impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: goseminoles
We have a screeching woman that is a joke to most people...

Define "most people".

In case you hadn't heard, Sarah Palin is the front runner for the Republican nomination.

So, who are these "people" you're talking about?

64 posted on 10/05/2010 10:20:41 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
The question is, though, will black Democrat voters buy it? Or, will they smell a rat (no pun intended) and figure out that Obama's being forced out?

No way black Democrat voters will fall for it, even with the MSM pushing from every direction. The trust gap is just too wide and widening between black and white.....Thanks again OBummer.

65 posted on 10/05/2010 10:26:25 PM PDT by The Cajun
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To: The Cajun
No way black Democrat voters will fall for it, even with the MSM pushing from every direction. The trust gap is just too wide and widening between black and white.....Thanks again OBummer.

And that, of course, is the greatest danger the Dems face in this situation. Black Democrats will expect to see Obama run in 2012, as long as he's still in office. So, how do the Dems get him out of office in such a way as to not inflame black Democrat voters?

I think a crippling health situation will have to be concocted to build credibility for his leaving office at the end of his term. It's something that will have to begin early in the year, and be built up into a running crisis, for believability.

If we don't see this begin by spring 2011, then we know they have no plan, or they've got something else up their sleeve. With all of the people in his inner circle jumping ship, something tells me that they've already figured out that Obama's going to become a dirty bomb in 2012.

66 posted on 10/05/2010 10:38:14 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
Very workable scenario you came up with there, but I don't think enough "For the sake of the party" pressure can be brought to bare on OBummer, but blackmail pressure from the Clintons might have a chance.
Going to be interesting.
67 posted on 10/05/2010 10:52:10 PM PDT by The Cajun
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To: goseminoles
And I believe she can get the black vote should Obama be proven to be an utter failure. A terrorist attack or continued failure of the economy may do Obama in.

I live, and work, around many black people, and their support for Obama, come what may, is rock solid, and unwavering. Should she challenge Obama in '12, she will not get the black vote, which she must have to prevail. The only possible scenario which gives it to her, is if he resigns, and signals to blacks that they can support her. I don't see that happening, as he is just as egotistical, and megalomaniacal as she is. This is the same impasse Dems had in 2008, and its unchanged.

As for Biden being in the equation, he's only in the equation as far as Obama is not going to dump him, for her. Not going to happen...

the infowarrior

68 posted on 10/05/2010 10:52:35 PM PDT by infowarrior
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To: MuttTheHoople

It’s Obama’s turn under the bus. Scenario as follows: Dems, in a wildly desperate move, tell Biden to step down and quickly install Hillary as VP for one purpose only—to quickly replace Obama who suddenly takes ‘ill’ and resigns, all before the November 2010 elections. This is their one chance to change the course of those elections and/or what is to come afterwards.

Obama is removed from the scene while Hillary bravely steps into the oval office promising to take care of business. The dems rally around her and some of the voters even respond to this desperate ploy. She’s the first woman president and has two years remaining to get the voters on her side. She stands ready to pardon Obama should the Republicans bring charges, telling the country that it’s time to move on and get about the country’s business. Several other top level dems quietly resign rather than face charges.

2012 rolls around, Hillary has two years worth of the presidency under her belt and has done the expedient thing of working with the Republicans to straighten things out. The voters see things have turned around a bit and Hillary is able to appeal to many who have conveniently forgotten Obama who is now wandering the globe making speeches and money.

I don’t want Hillary in but can see a desperate move coming. I may be wrong about the timing, but if the dems plan to change presidents, why wait for Obama to do more damage to the country and therefore, to their chances? It’s clear that Obama is weighing them down.....


69 posted on 10/06/2010 3:34:44 AM PDT by Marty
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To: Marty

If an Obama/Hillary ticket were even possible then I wouldn’t be surprised to see Hillary try to do to Obama what George Bush I tried to do to Reagan.


70 posted on 10/06/2010 6:51:51 AM PDT by InternetTuffGuy
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

OOHH...That IS funny!!


71 posted on 10/06/2010 7:38:42 AM PDT by Mountain Mary ("A Nation of Sheep will beget a Government of Wolves" Edward R. Murrow)
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To: The Cajun
I don't think enough "For the sake of the party" pressure can be brought to bare on OBummer, but blackmail pressure from the Clintons might have a chance.

Yes, it might, but I see the the more likely scenario as the party leadership making it clear to Obama that he's lost their support, and that unless he goes along with the plan, that they will take him out via impeachment. All the Dem leadership needs to do, is signal to the Repubs that they're ready to play ball on impeachment, and it's over.

Naturally, Obama could counter that if the Dems impeach him, that they'll lose the black vote for several election cycles. I'd expect the Dems to tell him that they're in possession of every dirty detail of his sordid past, and that even black voters will abandon him if they find out about it.

Interesting chess match, isn't it?

72 posted on 10/06/2010 8:41:47 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: MuttTheHoople

Heh. I think Obama will regret not choosing Hillary when she runs against him in 2012. His lack of balls in 2008 will translate to loss of the nomination in 2012. Then the black voters will be so upset that Hillary will start -5% or more over the traditional Democratic vote. It will rip apart the Democratic party and inflame the black sense of injustice and racism and Hillary will lose.


73 posted on 10/06/2010 9:05:32 AM PDT by November 2010
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To: November 2010

Your reasoning is logical which is why I can see the dems pushing him to get out early so Hillary can run as the incumbent. As for the blacks being angry—this is why the dems must completely discredit him, expose him as using the blacks against their best interests, deceiving them. They have to feel used by him and see Hillary as being on their side. Careful maneuvering can get that done, but it still may be too late to save the 2012 election if they don’t hurry up and get Obama off the stage. I’m thinking that it is too late anyhow, but the dems will try something desperate and that’s why I think that this will happen sooner rather than later.


74 posted on 10/06/2010 9:26:28 AM PDT by Marty
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