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Posted on 10/06/2010 8:35:36 PM PDT by Cindy

SNIPPET: "His movies have grossed more than $2 billion worldwide. He is an expert martial artist with a 7th-degree black belt in Aikido. He's considered to be in the same class of action hero as Sylvester Stallone and Arnold Schwarzenegger. However, Steven Seagal isn't just an action hero in the movies. For almost 20 years, Seagal has been working as a fully commissioned deputy with the Jefferson Parish Sheriff's Office in Louisiana. In addition to going out on patrol, Seagal is an expert marksman who has worked with their SWAT team and has instructed Jefferson Parish officers in firearms and hand-to-hand combat.

Steven Seagal Lawman will allow fans to ride shotgun with Seagal as he and his hand-selected elite team of deputies respond to crimes in progress."

(Excerpt) Read more at aetv.com ...


TOPICS: Education; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: buddhism; buddhist; seagal; stevenseagal

1 posted on 10/06/2010 8:35:40 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: All

Vanity/trivia post.

I watch a lot Seagal movies, but hadn’t seen this series until tonight when flipping channels.


2 posted on 10/06/2010 8:36:44 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cindy

Statement by H.H. Penor Rinpoche
Regarding the Recognition of Steven Seagal
as a Reincarnation of the Treasure Revealer
Chungdrag Dorje of Palyul Monastery

In February of 1997 I recognized my student, Steven Seagal, as a reincarnation (tulku) of the treasure revealer Chungdrag Dorje. Since there has been some confusion and uncertainty as to what this means, I am writing to clarify this situation.

Traditionally a tulku is considered to be a reincarnation of a Buddhist master who, out of his or her compassion for the suffering of sentient beings, has vowed to take rebirth to help all beings attain enlightenment. To fulfill this aspiration, a tulku will generally need to go through the complete process of recognition, enthronement and training.

Formal recognition generally occurs soon after a tulku has been identified, but only after other important lineage masters have been consulted. The newly identified tulku does not take on any formal responsibilities at the time of recognition.

The next step of enthronement may or may not occur for a tulku, depending on the circumstances. Enthronement formally invests the tulku with the responsibility of furthering the activities associated with their particular tulku lineage. Thus, if there are specific teachings and practice traditions associated with their lineage, and if there are perhaps monks, nuns, monasteries, retreat centers, lay communities and so forth for which the tulku traditionally takes responsibility, then the tulku is formally vested with those responsibilities at the time of enthronement. In the event that an enthronement ceremony is conducted, it may take place soon after recognition or some years later. If the tulku is too young to assume their responsibilities upon enthronement, others may be entrusted to take on those responsibilities until the tulku is ready.

Finally, a tulku needs to complete a formal course of training which includes years of study and meditation. This training reawakens the tulku’s powers of insight and compassion and develops their skillful means for helping others. It is only after such training that a tulku is ready to take on the role of a teacher.

In the case of Steven Seagal, he has been formally recognized as a tulku, but has not been officially enthroned. He has also not undergone the lengthy process of study and practice necessary to fully realize what I view as his potential for helping others. When I first met him, I felt he had the special qualities of a tulku within him. According to the Great Vehicle (Mahayana) of the Buddhist tradition, all beings have within them the potential for becoming Buddhas. With Steven Seagal I perceived this potential to be particularly strong as accords with being a tulku. In the past, whenever I have met someone that I feel is a tulku, I have always consulted with other masters of the Nyingma lineage such as Dudjom Rinpoche, Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche and other senior lineage holders. Similarly, after my experience of meeting Steven Seagal, I consulted with another important Nyingma master and with his concurrence, recognized Steven Seagal as a tulku.

With regard to the particular circumstances of Steven Seagal’s recognition, while it is generally the case that tulkus are recognized young in life, this is not always so. For example, the great master Jamyang Khyentse Chökyi Lodrö remained unrecognized for many years while he was an ordained monk at Kathok Monastery. He was over 30 years old, perhaps 35, and had completed his monastic education when he was recognized and enthroned as the first reincarnation of Jamyang Khyentse Chökyi Wangpo. In his case, he had devoted his life to study and practice and was thus prepared for taking on the full responsibilities of being a tulku at the time of his recognition.

Prior to my recognition of Steven Seagal I myself recognized another tulku late in his life. Kalsang Yeshe Rinpoche, a monk originally from the Palyul branch monastery of Shibo in Tibet and later at Namdroling Monastery in India, was recognized and enthroned in 1983 at the age of 51. He too had spent his life studying Buddhism and meditating before he was recognized as a tulku. Because he had cultivated his potential through many years of diligent study and meditation, he was able to become a teacher and is currently the head of our Palyul Center in Singapore. So, in short, in the Tibetan tradition there is nothing unusual about recognizing a tulku late in their life. In fact, the recognition of a tulku who has been born in the West is especially likely to occur later in their lifetime because it will generally take much longer for all the conditions that are necessary for such a recognition to come together.

Steven Seagal has been recognized as a reincarnation of the 17th century hidden treasure revealer (tertön) Chungdrag Dorje (khyung brag rdo rje) of Palyul Monastery. Chungdrag Dorje founded a small monastery called Gegön Gompa near his native village of Phene in the Kutse area of Derge in Eastern Tibet. Though there are no monks there now, the small monastery building still exists and is well known in the area for its beautiful religious wall paintings.

As a tertön, Chungdrag Dorje rediscovered teachings and sacred objects hidden by Padmasambhava in the eighth century. Such treasures (terma) were concealed with the intention that they would be discovered and revealed at a later date when the circumstances were such that they would be of particular benefit to sentient beings. Texts of the teachings discovered by Chungdrag Dorje have apparently not survived the Chinese Cultural Revolution. Sacred objects discovered by Chungdrag Dorje include an unusually shaped bell, a phurba (ritual dagger), the syllable ‘A’ carved in stone and pigments used to create the sacred wall paintings in his monastery mentioned above. Several of these objects have been preserved and are still kept at Palyul Monastery today.

In the Nyingma tradition it is said that there are a hundred main treasure revealers and an even greater number of secondary treasure revealers. Among the latter it is not uncommon for the line of their teachings to eventually lapse. Though they were beneficial during the time they flourished, for various reasons some tertön teaching lineages have ceased. This would seem to be the case with Chungdrag Dorje.

Now with regard to Steven Seagal, he was born centuries after the death of Chungdrag Dorje. It is not uncommon for there to be a lengthy span of time between the death of a master and the appearance of his or her subsequent reincarnation. My own tulku lineage is an example of this. There was a 130 years hiatus between the death of the First Pema Norbu in 1757 and the birth of the Second Pema Norbu in 1887. This is common in all the traditions of Tibetan Buddhism. As for how these gaps come about, while tulkus are understood to have vowed to be continually reborn to help beings, it is not necessary for them to take rebirth in a continuous sequence of lives in this world. It is believed that they can be reborn in other world systems where they continue their compassionate activities, returning only later to this world system. This is how such lapses in tulku lineages are understood in Tibet.

As for Steven Seagal’s movie career, my concern is with the qualities I experienced within him which relate to his potential for benefiting others and not with the conventional details of his life which are wholly secondary. Some people think that because Steven Seagal is always acting in violent movies, how can he be a true Buddhist? Such movies are for temporary entertainment and do not relate to what is real and important. It is the view of the Great Vehicle of Buddhism that compassionate beings take rebirth in all walks of life to help others. Any life condition can be used to serve beings and thus, from this point of view, it is possible to be both a popular movie star and a tulku. There is no inherent contradiction in this possibility.

As the head of the Palyul lineage of the Nyingma School and more recently as the Head of the Nyingma tradition of Tibetan Buddhism, I have had the responsibility of recognizing numerous tulkus. The first time I recognized a tulku, I was ten years old. This tulku was the incarnation of the great Khenpo Ngaga. He is still living in Eastern Tibet and continues to strive, to this day, to promote the welfare of others. Since that time until now I have recognized over one hundred tulkus. In addition I have overseen the training and enthronement of over thirty khenpos (learned scholars) and I am responsible for the welfare of the many thousands of monks belonging to the Palyul tradition. My concern in seeking to nurture these tulkus, khenpos, monks, as well as sincere lay people, has been to benefit all sentient beings. It is out of this intention that I have recognized tulkus in the past and will continue to recognize them in the future as appropriate.

In the case of my student Steven Seagal, I initiated the decision to recognize him as a tulku based on my own feelings about him. Neither I nor any of my monasteries have received or sought any sort of substantial donation from him. What is important to me are the qualities I have seen in my student. For this reason I feel confident that recognizing him as a tulku will be of benefit to others as well as to the Buddha dharma.

Whenever there is a new incarnation born or recognized, I personally feel very happy because it is like you have one more brother or sister. I take delight in such occasions as they seek to further compassionate activity for others. Being recognized as a tulku is an acknowledgment of one’s potential to help others. Such recognition does not mean that one is already a realized teacher. The degree to which tulkus have been able to actualize and utilize their potential depends upon how they have been able to use their past circumstances and how they currently use their present circumstances to develop their potential. Each tulku must work to develop themselves to the best of their ability. The essential point is that a tulku should strive to help others in whatever life situation they find themselves. It is out of such an aspiration to help all sentient beings that I have recognized many tulkus in my life and it is with this motivation that I recognized Steven Seagal as a tulku. If all beings seek to have this motivation, what need will there be for controversies and confusion over the motivations of others?


3 posted on 10/06/2010 8:39:05 PM PDT by jrg
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To: Cindy

I never watch Seagal movies - tonight is the first time I’ve seen this show - I did not know that he has been a law enforcement officer for 20 years! I have to say that the show has been very interesting though, and I’ve enjoyed watching it.


4 posted on 10/06/2010 8:40:47 PM PDT by alicewonders
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To: Cindy

There is something about him that is just deliciously cheesy. I have to watch, I can’t look away.


5 posted on 10/06/2010 8:42:21 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Cindy

Take Sensei is at it again.... Oy vey...


6 posted on 10/06/2010 8:44:00 PM PDT by montyspython
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To: Cindy

Take Sensei is at it again.... Oy vey...


7 posted on 10/06/2010 8:44:00 PM PDT by montyspython
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To: La Lydia

8 posted on 10/06/2010 8:46:14 PM PDT by Dumpster Baby (Truth is called hate by those who hate the truth.)
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To: Cindy

For those who have never seen a Steven Seagal movie, in my opinion, the best is “Out for a Kill.”


9 posted on 10/06/2010 8:46:56 PM PDT by looois
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To: All

By the looks of it, he’s got the donut eating part down pat.


10 posted on 10/06/2010 8:50:09 PM PDT by sleddogs
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To: Cindy

I actually like Segal, though there’s no doubt he plays the tough guy image for all that it’s worth.

I realized how much he overplayed it several years back when I read that whenever his Doberman got too noisy in the yard, he would go out, stick his face right up to the dog’s snarling mouth and yell, “Shut up.”

I was impressed until I got a Dobie of my own. I then learned that he could have grabbed the dog in a choke hold and tossed him to the ground, and it wouldn’t have reacted in any other way than to wag its tale, or stare up in bemusement. I came to realize that Dobies are almost incapable of harming their owners. Their sense of loyalty is beyond anything most people will ever have the joy of witnessing.

Not to drag this out, but when my Baron was about 130 pounds, he got attacked by a feral cat. When the cat took off, I didn’t want him to run it down and kill it, so I tackled Baron from behind and wrestled him to the ground. His reaction? He wagged his tail and wanted to play.


11 posted on 10/06/2010 8:50:52 PM PDT by hampdenkid
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To: Cindy
"I watch a lot Seagal movies, but hadn’t seen this series until tonight when flipping channels."

I watched the first season of "Lawman" when it premiered in Dec. 2009. My DVR recorded the new programs tonight. A check at IMDB showed that he's filming a new TV series titled "Southern Justice", to be aired sometime in 2011. No mention of what channel it will be on.

12 posted on 10/06/2010 8:51:13 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: looois

The only one I like is Under Siege.


13 posted on 10/06/2010 8:51:36 PM PDT by Politicalmom (A BIG TENT analogy isn’t the correct one. The correct one is a MAGNET.-Fred Thompson)
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To: Cindy

Seagal is to acting what Obama is to political science. I saw my first Seagal movie in the early ninties and all I can remember about it is that he went into a coma with a tan and came out of the coma with a tan.


14 posted on 10/06/2010 8:56:49 PM PDT by Patrick1 (I'm a soldier of good fortune, I'm guarding the Yucatan.)
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To: Cindy

He runs like a girly girl.


15 posted on 10/06/2010 9:04:33 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus)
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To: Cindy

As a member of a SWAT team, you have to wonder how many dogs he’s shot...


16 posted on 10/06/2010 9:13:16 PM PDT by jonascord (The Tea Party just gave the Republican senators an ice water enema.)
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To: Cindy
He's considered to be in the same class of action hero as Sylvester Stallone and Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Nonsense, Seagal is a third rate action figure that doesn't come close to movie star status as Sylvester has, and Arnold was the biggest movie star in the world.

Steven is in the category of all the Karate guys like the French guy, and the Texas Ranger guy (until he made it big in TV).

17 posted on 10/06/2010 9:15:34 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Cindy

The best thing about Steven Seagal (and most Bruce Lee) movies is that you can tune in at virtually any time in the movie and get the gist of the movie.

If you go to YouTube and search for “Best Steven Seagal” there are about 7 compilations of him fighting and whacking other guys. Since there’s little else worth bothering with in his films, this saves a heck of a lot of time.


18 posted on 10/06/2010 9:17:13 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder ("No longer can we make no mistake for too long". Barack d****it 0bama, 2009, 2010, 2011.)
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To: Cindy
I wish he and Nugent would shoot it out. I hope they tie.
19 posted on 10/06/2010 9:29:36 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know .F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: Cindy
Maybe Seagal should do a new tv series

Steven Seagal: Wife Beater

20 posted on 10/06/2010 9:55:36 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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21 posted on 10/06/2010 9:57:33 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: looois
Out for Justice synopsis:

In his first real encounter with the criminal scum he bludgeons onw man with salami, makes a man stab himself in the thigh with a butcher knife, and beats up another man, then takes the knife from first man's thigh and pins second guys hand to the wall.

During the greatest bar room fight I have ever seen in a movie, Gino rolls a cue ball into a small towel and proceeds to beat anyone who challenges him. A man named Tattoo gets all his front teeth knocked out but still has the courage to come back for more. And by the way, the bad guys in this movie really know how to rock wind suits. Gino also has a sweet fight with a man named "sticks."

In one of the bloodiest final showdowns ever, Gino manages to take on the rest of the thugs armed with only his pistol and shotgun. He blows one mans lower leg off, and also puts an end to the man named Tattoo. Seagal finally stabs his boyhood adversary and criminal scum, Richie, in the forehead with a corkscrew. Only after manhandling the wannabe mobster and wrecking a poor womans apartment.

The movie had some good one-liners, the best being, "Tell your brother I'm gonna cut of his head and p--s down his throat!" This line was whispered in Seagal's best Brooklyn accent. This movie was full of action as well as blood. This was one of my favorite Seagal films that I've seen so far, I highly suggest renting this movie.

The scene with the cue ball in towel is great. (The victim is shown in the next scene smoking a cig after spitting his teeth ... LOL)


22 posted on 10/06/2010 10:01:19 PM PDT by qwertypie
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To: looois
Out for Justice synopsis:

In his first real encounter with the criminal scum he bludgeons onw man with salami, makes a man stab himself in the thigh with a butcher knife, and beats up another man, then takes the knife from first man's thigh and pins second guys hand to the wall.

During the greatest bar room fight I have ever seen in a movie, Gino rolls a cue ball into a small towel and proceeds to beat anyone who challenges him. A man named Tattoo gets all his front teeth knocked out but still has the courage to come back for more. And by the way, the bad guys in this movie really know how to rock wind suits. Gino also has a sweet fight with a man named "sticks."

In one of the bloodiest final showdowns ever, Gino manages to take on the rest of the thugs armed with only his pistol and shotgun. He blows one mans lower leg off, and also puts an end to the man named Tattoo. Seagal finally stabs his boyhood adversary and criminal scum, Richie, in the forehead with a corkscrew. Only after manhandling the wannabe mobster and wrecking a poor womans apartment.

The movie had some good one-liners, the best being, "Tell your brother I'm gonna cut of his head and p--s down his throat!" This line was whispered in Seagal's best Brooklyn accent. This movie was full of action as well as blood. This was one of my favorite Seagal films that I've seen so far, I highly suggest renting this movie.

The scene with the cue ball in towel is great. (The victim is shown in the next scene smoking a cig after spitting his teeth ... LOL)


23 posted on 10/06/2010 10:01:19 PM PDT by qwertypie
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To: La Lydia

24 posted on 10/06/2010 10:02:45 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: Cindy

That’s Seagal?

I thought it wa algore in drag.


25 posted on 10/06/2010 10:08:08 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both.)
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To: mountn man
Remember who he was married to? [kellyLebrock.jpg]
26 posted on 10/06/2010 10:13:47 PM PDT by Fpimentel
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To: Fpimentel
What Seagal has done is well documented, but perhaps not well known. He married a Japanese woman, Myako Fujitani, in 1975. It was the connection to Myako's father that enabled Seagal to be the first westerner to run a dojo in Japan. Between 1986 and 1987, having moved to the United States, Seagal divorced Myako, married Adrienne La Russa, impregnated Kelly LeBrock, divorced La Russa, married LeBrock, and became a famous action movie star who would go on to gross more money in the next seven years than almost anyone else in Hollywood, second only to Arnold Swarzenegger. Somewhere around 1995, though, things got weird in the Seagal household. His youngest child with LeBrock was named Arissa after the family nanny. Seagal then began a relationship with the nanny, impregnated her, and divorced LeBrock. He hasn't married the elder Arissa, but he now has seven children and three ex-wives. And, he has gone from producing and directing his own cheesy, imminently flawed, but entertaining and in some strange way "pure" films, to playing supporting or co-starring roles in gaggers like Ticker (2001). Once again, I'm confused. How can a man who meditates daily, studies the Buddha, and serves as a spokesperson for such thoughtful causes as PETA lose ground both as a moral being and an artist?

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Jenny McCarthy revealed in an interview with Moveline magazine back in 1998 that she was harassed by Steven Seagal during a casting call for Under Siege 2. Jenny said: "I go inside Seagal's office, and he's by himself and says, 'Sit on my couch. Then he said, 'Take off your dress.' I just started crying and said, 'Rent my Playboy video, you asshole!' and ran out to the car." It's also been reported that NINE other women told Penthouse magazine about Seagal sexually harassing them back in 1998. McCarthy, an actress and autism activist, said in an interview with Movieline magazine in 1998, that Seagal asked her to strip during a casting call for "Under Siege 2," then threatened her not to tell anyone.

In the Movieline account, McCarthy went on to say, "I go inside his (Seagal's) office, which has shag carpet and this huge couch, and he's by himself and says, 'Sit on my couch.'" She continued, "[He says] 'So, you were Playmate of the Year?'"

"Then he said: 'take off your dress,'" McCarthy continued. "I just started crying and said: 'Rent my Playboy video, you a*****e!' and ran out to the car."

Also in 1998, nine women came forward in a Penthouse magazine feature to tell their tales of harassment at the hands of the action film star.

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Stories about Seagal's poor treatment of women have been common in Hollywood for years. Jenny McCarthy once spoke of how he demanded she strip nude during an audition, proving he clearly didn't notice she began her career as a Playboy Playmate of the Year. There are reports he beat his third ex-wife, actress Kelly LeBrock, before dumping her for her children's nanny. As for Nguyen, her lawyers responded that there is no way a confidentiality agreement could bar Seagal from being sued in court for sexual trafficking and assault, so they are moving forward. They also reported that six other women have contacted them since the case first came to light in the press to report similar treatment.

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Steven Seagal's ex-wife, Kelly LeBrock, says she was 'constantly raped and abused my whole life'

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2010/04/22/2010-04-22_steven_seagals_exwife_kelly_lebrock_says_she_was_constantly_raped_and_abused_my_.html#ixzz11eLaD7Yu

27 posted on 10/06/2010 11:07:54 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: Cindy

See post 27


28 posted on 10/06/2010 11:09:53 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: mountn man

All these years of raping and assaulting and how many arrests or convictions? Zero and Zero. Like you said, that guy made alot of money. Seems to me these ladies enjoyed the ride and than tried black mailing him with false charges just like that Nguyen women recently did. She got the cash and wasn’t intrested in pursuing criminal charges.


29 posted on 10/06/2010 11:26:40 PM PDT by Fpimentel
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To: La Lydia

Couldn’t have said it better.

Ever had a not feeling so great/honkered down snuggle with the dog day?

That my FRiend is a perfect day to watch a Steven Seigal movie day.


30 posted on 10/06/2010 11:34:53 PM PDT by Global2010
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To: Cindy

What’s this? (I did not read the whole article)
New series?
Title so I can search, please.

I found another new series by clicking it is as La Lydia describes kinda “cheesy” but good for lazy evening watching.

Called Trievers on FX.


31 posted on 10/06/2010 11:37:36 PM PDT by Global2010
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To: Dumpster Baby

LOL That’s very good.


32 posted on 10/06/2010 11:40:14 PM PDT by Global2010
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To: mountn man

Party Pooper.


33 posted on 10/06/2010 11:43:48 PM PDT by Global2010
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To: Fpimentel
Where there's smoke...

Besides there's nothing on McCarthy suing or making money. And people have known for a long time about beating LeBrock.

He's a dirt bag.

Oh...And an ab-so-lu-tley AWFUL actor

34 posted on 10/06/2010 11:46:16 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: mountn man

I am curious how many not so pro Seagal comments are from men on this thread.


35 posted on 10/06/2010 11:50:35 PM PDT by Global2010
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To: Global2010
Oh, I'm sorry to be a man. I guess that disqualifies me from calling a piece of shiite a piece of shiite.

And of course him beating his wife and harassing women is ok, as long as you can have your little hero worship. Sorta like the Bill Clinton crowd.

36 posted on 10/07/2010 12:37:43 AM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: hampdenkid
I was impressed until I got a Dobie of my own.

Good choice, Dobies are great! Smart, friendly, playful, affectionate, disciplined (with minimum of proper training), very loyal, not demanding, attached to people, excellent family and therapy dogs.

37 posted on 10/07/2010 5:20:32 AM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: hampdenkid

Good dog!


38 posted on 10/07/2010 9:03:35 AM PDT by poobear ("The greatest tyrannies are always perpetrated in the name of the noblest causes." -- Thomas Paine)
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To: mountn man

Yeah, I heard about his abusing Kelly Lebrock. WTF?

I stopped being a fan of his when he started making those goofy environmental/action movies and preaching about how we’re destroying the Earth.


39 posted on 10/07/2010 12:16:01 PM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Cindy

Chuck Norris would whip his Ass...


40 posted on 10/07/2010 2:26:22 PM PDT by Eddie Quist
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To: La Lydia
I enjoy the show and watched most of last seasons. I especailly like the "six million dollar man" bionic eye special effect used to empasize when he spots something suspscious nobody else notices. I refer to it as "Seagal vision". Steven Sea Gull
41 posted on 10/08/2010 9:32:52 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: Eddie Quist
Chuck Norris is 70 and had a hip replacement.

Steven Seagal is 61...Thats his age and his waist size.

Back in the day, I'd give it to Norris. If his hip is good, I'd still give it to him.

Read an article one time a number of years ago. Seems like Chuck doesn't care for Seagal much. Says he pretty much walks around with the tough guy attitude that he portrays in the movies. Always wants to teach someone a lesson. Always carrys a gun.

Also read years earlier that Norris said if he and Bruce Lee would have ever gotten into a serious fight, it would have been no contest...Bruce would have won, and very quickly.

42 posted on 10/08/2010 4:35:27 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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