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Lost Vivaldi concerto found in Scotland
Reuters ^ | 100710 | Stefano Ambrogi

Posted on 10/07/2010 7:49:06 AM PDT by Artemis Webb

LONDON (Reuters Life!) – A lost flute concerto by 18th century composer and virtuoso violinist Antonio Vivaldi has been discovered by an academic among a set of dusty papers housed in Scotland's National Archives in Edinburgh.

The extraordinary find, a 300-year-old copy of the Italian Baroque composer's original manuscript, comprises the parts for "Il Gran Mogol," one of a quartet of national concertos.

The others, entitled "La Francia," "La Spagna" and "L'Inghilterro" remain lost.

The musical score, which scholars believe may never have been performed, was found and authenticated by Southampton University research fellow Andrew Woolley.

"This piece was previously known only from a mention in the sale catalog of an 18th-century Dutch bookseller. Discovering that it is actually in existence is unexpected and hugely exciting," Woolley said.

Peter Franklin, spokesman for the University of Southampton, said: "this is an 18th century published copy of the original, so it's not in Vivaldi's own hand, but we don't know of any other copy in existence."

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TOPICS: Arts/Photography; History; Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: art; concerto; flute; found; lost; scotland; vivaldi
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1 posted on 10/07/2010 7:49:09 AM PDT by Artemis Webb
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To: sitetest

ping


2 posted on 10/07/2010 7:50:26 AM PDT by Artemis Webb
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To: Artemis Webb

Vivaldi is one of the few Baroque composers I can stand to listen to for an extended period of time. Him, and Back.


3 posted on 10/07/2010 7:56:52 AM PDT by fwdude (Anita Bryant was right.)
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To: Artemis Webb; .30Carbine; 1cewolf; 1rudeboy; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 31R1O; ADemocratNoMore; ...
Dear Aretemis Webb,

Thanks for the ping!

Classical Music Ping List ping!

If you want on or off this list, let me know via FR e-mail.

Thanks,


sitetest

4 posted on 10/07/2010 8:04:25 AM PDT by sitetest ( If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Artemis Webb

As my Mom would say, “Well, where’s the last place you had it?”


5 posted on 10/07/2010 8:06:01 AM PDT by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: Artemis Webb
I HATE Vivaldi!

I'd rather listen to an hour-long audio from the floor of the New York Stock Exchange at opening.

Leni

6 posted on 10/07/2010 8:11:21 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Are any Americans better off than they were 4 trillion dollars ago?)
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To: fwdude
Him, and Back.

You mean J S Bach?

7 posted on 10/07/2010 8:19:37 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Artemis Webb

Vivaldi didn’t write 500 concertoes - he wrote one concerto 500 times. - Strainvsky


8 posted on 10/07/2010 8:21:11 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges
Eh, Stravinsky couldn't write anything like this: RV558
9 posted on 10/07/2010 8:28:05 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: jagusafr

Who thought to look in that little compartment under the bench cushion?


10 posted on 10/07/2010 8:39:40 AM PDT by Damifino (The true measure of a man is found in what he would do if he knew no one would ever find out.)
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To: MinuteGal

That’s ok, I love him enough for both of us :)


11 posted on 10/07/2010 8:42:37 AM PDT by Maigret
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To: Artemis Webb

I love Vivaldi.....and Ralph Vaughn Williams......


12 posted on 10/07/2010 8:47:54 AM PDT by Kimmers (Tell a lie often enough it becomes political........)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I’m sorry, yes, Bach.


13 posted on 10/07/2010 8:48:32 AM PDT by fwdude (Anita Bryant was right.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
You mean J S Bach?

"Ahhhh, Bach!"

14 posted on 10/07/2010 8:49:34 AM PDT by dfwgator (Texas Rangers - AL West Champions)
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To: fwdude
I thought that was who you meant. :-)

My Dad liked Chopins music but never could say his name correctly. LOL

15 posted on 10/07/2010 8:50:52 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: MinuteGal
Vivaldi can be a bit monotonous, but for fun, just try to imagine The Four Seasons played on bagpipes.
16 posted on 10/07/2010 8:52:20 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: dfwgator

LOL! I’m not an aficionado but do like some pieces. Mostly piano concertos.


17 posted on 10/07/2010 8:53:06 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Artemis Webb
still searching!


18 posted on 10/07/2010 8:53:26 AM PDT by Young Werther ("Quae cum ita sunt" Since these things are so!)
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To: Pyro7480
True enough, but Vivaldi couldn't write anything like this.
19 posted on 10/07/2010 8:53:27 AM PDT by Pharmboy (What always made the state a hell has been that man tried to make it heaven-Hoelderlin)
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To: fwdude
and Back

I'll be Back:


20 posted on 10/07/2010 8:56:21 AM PDT by krb (Obama is a miserable failure.)
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To: Artemis Webb

I wonder if it had ketsup and mustard drops on it......


21 posted on 10/07/2010 8:59:28 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (There's only one cure for Obamarrhea......)
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To: Young Werther

What was the point of putting that pic up?


22 posted on 10/07/2010 9:04:16 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Young Werther

I have no idea how the photo relates but I’m certainly not going to complain. :)


23 posted on 10/07/2010 9:07:21 AM PDT by Artemis Webb
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To: Borges; Artemis Webb
Vivaldi didn’t write 500 concertoes - he wrote one concerto 500 times. - Strainvsky

LOL! I was going to post that! :)

24 posted on 10/07/2010 9:08:08 AM PDT by EveningStar (Karl Marx is not one of our Founding Fathers.)
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To: Pyro7480
"What was the point of putting that pic up?"

Something about a double concerto I suppose...

Double concerto in D.

25 posted on 10/07/2010 9:24:29 AM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: billorites

LOL! Now I get it! ;-)


26 posted on 10/07/2010 9:25:59 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: onedoug

ping


27 posted on 10/07/2010 9:29:32 AM PDT by stylecouncilor (What Would Jim Thompson Do?)
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To: stylecouncilor

¨Scotland? What´d he say about Scotland?¨


28 posted on 10/07/2010 9:40:08 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: EveningStar; Borges

” Vivaldi didn’t write 500 concertoes - he wrote one concerto 500 times. - Strainvsky “

My esteem for Stravinsky just went up a notch ;-)


29 posted on 10/07/2010 9:45:02 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: monkapotamus
How cool... I absolutely love Vivaldi.
30 posted on 10/07/2010 9:45:05 AM PDT by AnnaZ (I keep 2 magnums in my desk.One's a gun and I keep it loaded.Other's a bottle and it keeps me loaded)
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To: EveningStar

I prefer Bach.....Vivaldi Palin comparison.


31 posted on 10/07/2010 9:47:42 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: Pyro7480
Helen Thomas dated Vivalduh!

Happy?

32 posted on 10/07/2010 10:26:09 AM PDT by Young Werther ("Quae cum ita sunt" Since these things are so!)
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To: Young Werther

NO!!!!


33 posted on 10/07/2010 11:54:58 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Artemis Webb

Wow, pretty amazing. How will it be received by audiences?


34 posted on 10/07/2010 12:10:00 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Christine O'Donnell WILL WIN in November. Rove can eat his own words then.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

A few years back, one of the sole Classical music radio stations in Boston, WCRB, ran a Listeners Poll to determine the FAVORITE (or BEST, my memory is hazy) CLASSICAL COMPOSER of all time. The listeners chose Vivaldi overwhelmingly, subjecting the rest of us to 24 hours of ascending and descending rolling strings.

Why Vivaldi? I surmised later that, due to the acute concentration of colleges in Boston, the listeners, good little indoctrinaires that they were, were merely parroting the opinions of the various college “professors” who taught the required Music Appreciation class. Vivaldi, from what I can recall from this “Required Elective”, figures predominantly. One can go mentally baroque listening to those whiny strings...


35 posted on 10/07/2010 12:31:36 PM PDT by Paisan
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To: Paisan
The listeners chose Vivaldi overwhelmingly, subjecting the rest of us to 24 hours of ascending and descending rolling strings.

Why Vivaldi? I surmised later that, due to the acute concentration of colleges in Boston, the listeners, good little indoctrinaires that they were, were merely parroting the opinions of the various college “professors” who taught the required Music Appreciation class.

Hmmm. I took a "Music Before 1750" course at MIT in the 1950s. It was not a required course. I just checked the textbook we used. There were 50 Baroque pieces discussed in the book -- not a one by Vivaldi. I think Vivaldi was just being rediscovered when the textbook was written in 1951. I found Vivaldi outside of the course. The more I became familiar with Vivaldi, the less I was interested in Bach. My classical pianist wife loves to play Bach. But most of Bach's pieces don't do much for me.

I can't imagine Bach doing a piece like this: Antonio Vivaldi - Dorilla in Tempe (RV 709) - Aria; Ret [or Rete] lacci: Link 1

Or this. There is another wonderful piece in Dorilla in Tempe to which I cannot find a YouTube link. It is Act II, Scene 12, a rollicking piece about a hunt. You can hear the start of it here: Link 2

Here is Dorilla in Tempe's vocal rendition of part of the Four Seasons: Link 3

36 posted on 10/07/2010 2:06:36 PM PDT by rustbucket
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To: Paisan

LOL!

Great Post


37 posted on 10/07/2010 2:21:16 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: rustbucket

I must concede that, being a lover of all things ‘instrumentally virtuoso’, I DO have a copy of The Four Seasons featuring Perlman on violin.

Every generation has their Heifitz, Stern, Perlman, Shaham - prodigies that interpret the classics with renewed energy and feeling. Still, the Three B’s, will always remain at the top of the list. Of course, I still have a personal affinity for the Italian Operatic composers. (see Screen Name)

OK, throw in Bizet and Offenbach...


38 posted on 10/07/2010 3:08:54 PM PDT by Paisan
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To: Artemis Webb
Eureka! Rock version post haste. ;)


39 posted on 10/07/2010 3:40:27 PM PDT by Daffynition ("Life Imitates Bacon, but Bacon does not imitate Life. Bacon IS life." ~paulycy)
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To: Paisan
I went through several stages in music appreciation. By the time I was 12, I had virtually memorized recordings of two Verdi operas and a Puccini opera. Then I shifted into string music for a few years. Beethoven was my favorite then. However, after being exposed to Baroque music, Baroque vocal music became and remains my favorite.

Here's another Vivaldi favorite of mine, the introduction to his oratorio "Juditha Triumphans:" Link. Dig the Baroque trumpets (no valves). And another piece from Juditha Triumphans: Link 2.

Another Baroque favorite, Pergolesi: Link 3. It is a shame he died at 26.

Other Baroque favorites include Schutz, Gabrieli, Praetorius, Handel, Alessandro Scarlatti, Purcell, Rameau.

40 posted on 10/07/2010 4:22:19 PM PDT by rustbucket
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To: onedoug; All

¨Scotland? What´d he say about Scotland?¨

“I wrote that concerto with me own bare hands, but do they call me Angus the composer? NAE!”


41 posted on 10/07/2010 4:26:09 PM PDT by mozarky2 (Ya never stand so tall as when ya stoop to stomp a statist!)
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To: sionnsar

Scottish related sorta ping


42 posted on 10/07/2010 6:00:25 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus)
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To: jagusafr
“Well, where’s the last place you had it?”

It was found where you put it, next to the keys to the Buick.

But then that opens a whole 'nother can of worms.

43 posted on 10/07/2010 6:04:10 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (These fragments I have shored against my ruins)
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To: AnnaZ
I shop there too.


44 posted on 10/07/2010 7:13:02 PM PDT by Daffynition ("Life Imitates Bacon, but Bacon does not imitate Life. Bacon IS life." ~paulycy)
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To: AnnaZ

45 posted on 10/07/2010 7:14:49 PM PDT by Daffynition ("Life Imitates Bacon, but Bacon does not imitate Life. Bacon IS life." ~paulycy)
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To: AnnaZ

46 posted on 10/07/2010 8:08:35 PM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: Pyro7480
Eh, Stravinsky couldn't write anything like this: RV558

Right you are. And Vivaldi probably couldn't write anything like The Rite of Spring. That said, it's only fair to say that both composers are worthy. The Vivaldi concerto you linked is an example of Vivaldi at his best. And that's not bad.

47 posted on 10/08/2010 5:05:49 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop Barry now. He can't help himself.)
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To: Paisan

Vivaldi’s was/is very good; Bach’s music was/is sublime. So no contest.


48 posted on 10/08/2010 5:10:33 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop Barry now. He can't help himself.)
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To: Paisan
Still, the Three B’s, will always remain at the top of the list.

Who is Mozart? Chopped liver?:o)

49 posted on 10/08/2010 5:14:31 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop Barry now. He can't help himself.)
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To: luvbach1

too many notes...


50 posted on 10/08/2010 5:41:04 AM PDT by Paisan
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