Zwölftonwerbung - Twelve tone commercial (classical music humor video)

YouTube ^ | April 29, 2008 | uploaded by schoenbergcommercial

[EveningStar]

Audio: a production, done in 1977 by Robert Conrad, the founder of WCLV classical radio in Cleveland, Ohio, USA. The script was written by conductor Kenneth Jean and Mathias Bamert is said to have had a role in the production.

Video: ascvideo (Arnold Schönberg Center, Wien)

[ADemocratNoMore]

About ten tears ago, Robert Conrad, as owner of WCLV, Cleveland's classical radio station and radio home of the Cleveland Orchestra established a foundation that ensures that WCLV will remain a classical station in perpetuity, as a way to prevent the inevitable fate of so many classical radio stations across the country that have been bought out and forced to change format. Kudos to him.

Also, its a real good listen on the net...

http://www.wclv.com/

[ADemocratNoMore]

Somebody observed that all the modern composers that would have carried on in the traditional classical formats, (symphonies, concertos etc.) are all writing music for films. Some of the stuff here might make good film music.

I create experimental electronic music every bit as odd (or as bad) as this stuff and I have been told that some of it would be good in a film soundtrack.

[Borges]

Bach’s music often verged on atonality. Especially the later stuff.

[dfwgator]

I’m partial to the fugue.

[Born Conservative]

I have a music degree, and I have to say, I was never able to warm up to 12 tone music.....

[Born Conservative]

Try THIS for a headache: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfBVYhyXU8o

[KYGrandma]

I think you are right. That was the worst “music”??? I have ever heard.

[bboop]

He would not have. Because Bach believed in a Creator who made order from chaos, not chaos. So he, too, wrote in an orderly and harmonic manner.

[ADemocratNoMore]

Well, that was... different.

[Pharmboy]

A few bars of atonal music does not an atonal composer make. In Beethoven's last piano sonata, there's a passage that sounds incredibly like boogie-woogie. Big deal...would Beethoven have been a boogie woogie composer if he were born in 1895?

AFAIC, art needs to be enjoyed, and that enjoyment is personal. I have never enjoyed atonal music (and I sure did try); I also tried to enjoy abstract art and cubism, but failed there too.

[Pharmboy]

Excellent point. The author of this book makes, essentially, the same one but in a more complex manner.

[InternetTuffGuy]

I’m not generally a fan of 12 tone music - had to learn my comp professor’s Piano Sonata in college.

There are examples of listenable serial music however. Keith Emerson (of Emerson Lake & Palmer) wrote a Piano Concerto, the first movement of which is based on a tone row.

[Moltke]

It’s actually not too bad with the sound turned off...;-)

(That said, I do own the Speakers Corner re-issue 3 LP box set of the Mercury Living Presence recordings of just these composers. They sure made great recordings (technically) back in those days. Puts all the current digicrap to shame.)

[bboop]

I do too. And I hate 12-tone music too. Intellectually they can explain it, theoretically. But it is NOT pleasing and it is NOT beautiful and it is not orderly. Chaotic/ existentialist/ intellectual and theoretical.

Who needs that? Christ in urine is theoretical too.

And???

[bboop]

I do too. And I hate 12-tone music too. Intellectually they can explain it, theoretically. But it is NOT pleasing and it is NOT beautiful and it is not orderly. Chaotic/ existentialist/ intellectual and theoretical.

Who needs that? Christ in urine is theoretical too.

And???

[dmz]

A few bars of atonal music does not an atonal composer make. In Beethoven’s last piano sonata, there’s a passage that sounds incredibly like boogie-woogie. Big deal...would Beethoven have been a boogie woogie composer if he were born in 1895?
AFAIC, art needs to be enjoyed, and that enjoyment is personal. I have never enjoyed atonal music (and I sure did try); I also tried to enjoy abstract art and cubism, but failed there too.

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Could not possibly agree with you more as to the subjective nature of appreciation for the arts.