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U. S. PREPARES FOR CRISIS IN ORIENT; BRITISH DEFY JAPAN, WILL AID CHINA (10/9/40)
Microfiche-New York Times archives, McHenry Library, U.C. Santa Cruz | 10/9/40 | Harold B. Hinton, Robert P. Post, Raymond Daniell, Hanson W. Baldwin

Posted on 10/09/2010 6:35:28 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: milhist; realtime; worldwarii
Free Republic University, Department of History presents World War II Plus 70 Years: Seminar and Discussion Forum
First session: September 1, 2009. Last date to add: September 2, 2015.
Reading assignment: New York Times articles delivered daily to students on the 70th anniversary of original publication date. (Previously posted articles can be found by searching on keyword “realtime” Or view Homer’s posting history .)
To add this class to or drop it from your schedule notify Admissions and Records (Attn: Homer_J_Simpson) by freepmail. Those on the Realtime +/- 70 Years ping list are automatically enrolled. Course description, prerequisites and tuition information is available at the bottom of Homer’s profile.
1 posted on 10/09/2010 6:35:32 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
Selections from West Point Atlas for the Second World War
German Fighter Range and British Radar Deployment
Marcks’ Plan, August 5, 1940
The Mediterranean Basin (Map 33)
The Far East and the Pacific, 1941 – The Imperial Powers, 1 September 1939

Plus a special guest map from Michael Korda’s, “With Wings Like Eagles,” showing the air defenses of England and Wales, August 1940.

2 posted on 10/09/2010 6:36:12 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Winston S. Churchill, Their Finest Hour

3 posted on 10/09/2010 6:37:08 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: r9etb; PzLdr; dfwgator; Paisan; From many - one.; rockinqsranch; GRRRRR; 2banana; henkster; ...
Washington Acts – 2
The International Situation – 3
Military Training for Children Upheld – 3
Men in Service Advised to Get Absentee Ballots – 3
London Chief Goal – 4
Churchill Bars Any Airing of Secret Session Talks – 4
Our Manganese and Tin Ample for 1 to 2 Years – 4
Churchill to Open China’s Vital Road – 6
Moves in the Balkans – 7
Texts of Day’s War Communiques – 8
4 posted on 10/09/2010 6:38:09 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

http://www.onwar.com/chrono/1940/oct40/f09oct40.htm

Churchill chosen to lead Conservatives

Wednesday, October 9, 1940 www.onwar.com

In Britain... Following Chamberlain’s resignation Churchill is chosen as the new leader of the Conservative Party. This is an impressive achievement because he was little liked by many in the party at the time of his selection as prime minister. He has succeeded in winning their loyalty despite the hard times he has presided over. His attention to party affairs illustrates his concern for the forms of parliamentary democracy.


5 posted on 10/09/2010 6:43:09 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Need a blow-up of the Willkie speech story on the front page.


6 posted on 10/09/2010 6:45:12 AM PDT by BushCountry (I spoken many wise words in jest, but no comparison to the number of stupid words spoken in earnest)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/andrew.etherington/month/thismonth/09.htm

October 9th, 1940

UNITED KINGDOM:
RAF Bomber Command: 108 aircraft raid the battleship Tirpitz in dry dock at Wilhelmshaven.

Battle of Britain: Airfields in the south-east form today’s main targets.

London: A bomb falls on St. Paul’s Cathedral in the early morning, exploding inside the roof and severely damaging the High Altar.

Maidstone is attacked by fighter-bombers is daylight, 87 buildings being damaged, and using cloud cover a single raider managed to damage English Electric’s Stafford factory.

Losses: Luftwaffe, 9; RAF, 3.

Westminster: Winston Churchill was this afternoon elected as Tory Party leader in succession to Neville Chamberlain who retired from the government last week for health reasons. The decision - taken at a private party meeting - was reported to have been unanimous.

Mr Chamberlain had continued as Tory leader after relinquishing the premiership. Mr Churchill had many enemies in the party before the out break of war, and there was an abortive attempt by party establishment figures this morning to appoint formally a deputy leader “to keep an eye on the boss”.

After his election Mr Churchill, who knew what had been going on, referred obliquely to his past differences with the party - sometimes while a member of it and sometimes not. “Varying opinions are entertained about my career,” he said with a grin. “But I think I can call myself a Tory.”

CANADA: Minesweeper HMCS Ungava launched North Vancouver, British Columbia. (Dave Shirlaw)

ATLANTIC OCEAN: U-103 sighted Convoy SC-6 and sank SS Delphin and SS Zannes Gounaris and damaged SS Graigwen in Convoy SC-6. After the successful attack at 2200 hrs the boat was depth charged by a convoy escort. (Dave Shirlaw)


7 posted on 10/09/2010 6:45:39 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

http://worldwar2daybyday.blogspot.com/

Day 405 October 9, 1940

Battle of Britain Day 92. Despite bad weather, with rain in northern France and the Straits of Dover and clouds over the Channel, Luftwaffe mounts several large raids (consisting mainly of bomb-carrying Messerschmitt fighters) in the Southeast of England and towards London. Bombs are dropped at London, Maidstone, Hastings, Falmouth and other towns. 3 German fighters and 1 Ju88 bomber are shot down. RAF loses 1 fighter (pilot is safe). Overnight, London, Liverpool and Manchester are bombed. St Paul’s Cathedral in London is hit, destroying choir stalls and the High Altar but the building is not structurally damaged. Fairey Albacore biplane torpedo bombers of 829 Squadron from HMS Peregrine (Royal Navy air station at Ford, Sussex) bomb Brest during the night, damaging German destroyers Eckholdt, Lody and Riedel by near misses. 1 Albacore is shot down and 3 aircrew are taken prisoners of war, including the squadron commander, Lt. Cdr. Stevinson.

At 10.11 PM, 20 miles Northwest of Ireland, U-103 attacks convoy SC-6 sinking Greek steamers SS Zannes Gounaris (1 killed) and SS Delphin (all hands rescued) and damaging British SS Graigwen (7 killed, 26 crew and 1 gunner picked up by HMS Enchantress and landed at Londonderry). U-103 is then depth charged by a convoy escort but not damaged.

British submarine HMS Regent torpedoes Italian merchant ship Antonietta Costa, 20 miles West of Durrës, Albania. Antonietta Costa does not sink but goes aground and is lost 10 miles off the coast near Durrës.

British minesweeping trawler HMS Sea King hits a mine and sinks 28 miles East of Grimsby, England (14 lives lost).

German troops enter its ally, Romania, to provide protection to the oilfields vital to the German war effort.


8 posted on 10/09/2010 6:47:38 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: BushCountry
Need a blow-up of the Willkie speech story on the front page.

I'll make a note to get it on my next news-gathering mission.

9 posted on 10/09/2010 6:51:47 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

bump


10 posted on 10/09/2010 7:00:12 AM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Today’s news gives you a really good impression of Britain’s global obligations. She was really stretched way too thin and very vulnerable. That she managed to maintain as much of her Empire as she did during this time of isolation is a testament to the character and fortitude of the British people and their leaders (at that time...)


11 posted on 10/09/2010 8:08:57 AM PDT by henkster (A broken government does not merit full faith and credit.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
Battle of Britain Campaign Diary

Date: 9th October 1940


12 posted on 10/09/2010 9:07:07 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (It take a village to raise an idiot.)
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henkster: "That she managed to maintain as much of her Empire as she did during this time of isolation is a testament to the character and fortitude of the British people and their leaders (at that time...)"

My understanding is that Churchill's deal with Roosevelt was essentially the following: Roosevelt would do everything possible to save Britain and defeat Nazism, but in exchange, Britain would lose its empire.

Unfortunately, I can't cite off the top of my head where I read this, but if there's major disagreement, I could make the effort to look it up again.

13 posted on 10/10/2010 7:57:53 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: BroJoeK

That’s a real general description, but I guess in a way that would be correct. It wasn’t necessarily Roosevelt’s intention to dismantle British colonialism as much as it was his intent to not use American resources to protect it. At this time America had turned very much anti-imperialistic and Roosevelt was especially so. The intention to cut loose the Philippines in 1946 as an example of the American shift.

A real interesting book that I just finished that spends quite a bit of time on the relationship between FDR and Churchill is “Winston’s War” by Max Hastings. I’m going to be writing a book review on it here in the next week or so and I do recommend it for those who want a better understanding of Churchill and some of the relationships he had with the other Allied players.


14 posted on 10/10/2010 8:20:29 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (It take a village to raise an idiot.)
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To: BroJoeK

I don’t think there was any such deal made. FDR made clear to Churchill that he was NOT going to war to save the British Empire, but rather to defeat Nazi and Imperial Japanese aggression. FDR did not favor the British Empire, and so was not inclined to do anything to save it, but he wasn’t going to deliberately direct its dissolution, either. I think he knew it’s dissolution was an inherent consequence of the outcome of the war and an inevitability.

The British Empire was not liquidated in 1945, but rather occurred incrementally over the next two decades.


15 posted on 10/10/2010 8:35:34 PM PDT by henkster (A broken government does not merit full faith and credit.)
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Need a blow-up of the Willkie speech story on the front page.

It blowed up real good.

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16 posted on 10/12/2010 10:17:12 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Thank you. I was curious too see the isolationist’s argument at the time and if Willkie would mention his opposition to a New Deal program or in general. On a side note, it was funny to read about the booing at the speech stops. Evidently, planting people to disrupt a speech has been going on for a long time.


17 posted on 10/13/2010 1:21:32 AM PDT by BushCountry (I spoken many wise words in jest, but no comparison to the number of stupid words spoken in earnest)
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"Jersey City 'Shocked' at Willkie Comment;
Conditions There Laid to 'Hoover Slump' "

More Amazing!

Eight years later, the Dems are still blaming "Hoover's Slump" for Roosevelt's Great Depression.

Can it be any wonder that today Obama still blames Bush for whatever's wrong?

After all, by FDR's standards, he's still got six years of blaming Bush to go... if he lasts that long... ;-)

18 posted on 10/13/2010 2:45:14 PM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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I am currently enjoying Paul Johnson’s Churchill very much. I’d always admired Churchill, but getting to know him better makes him all the more likeable to me.


19 posted on 10/14/2010 5:55:31 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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I like Churchill a lot though I realize that he had his failings. I recommend reading Hastings’ “Winston’ War” since it really does look at both sides of Churchill. I also would recommend reading “Partners in Command” by Perry if you want to get some insight in the interactions between Churchill, Marshall, and Eisenhower. You can really see that Churchill’s powers of personality which worked so well on Roosevelt had very little effect on Ike and Marshall.


20 posted on 10/14/2010 11:26:24 PM PDT by CougarGA7 (It take a village to raise an idiot.)
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I thought I couldn’t think less of FDR, but that Churchill charmed him doesn’t surprise me.

I think Johnson does a good job of pointing out Churchill’s weaknesses and putting them in context. The importance to me of studying Churchill is that most people don’t.

We’re losing knowledge at an ever increasing rate even as more of it becomes accessible.


21 posted on 10/15/2010 2:08:29 AM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
"We’re losing knowledge at an ever increasing rate even as more of it becomes accessible."

Excellent point, but maybe it's only our side which has lost our sense of who we are and where we came from.

Dems don't seem to have forgotten any of the old plays out of FDR's playbook.

They keep using them, and we keep falling for them.
They never forget, we never remember.

What's wrong with this picture?

22 posted on 10/15/2010 4:35:55 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: BroJoeK
They've had an eternity of practice:

He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

I believe that Gresham's Law applies to all areas of human life because, for now, it's the devil's world.

23 posted on 10/15/2010 6:04:00 AM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: BroJoeK; 1010RD

Well, do remember that they get to try their wares on a new set of youth every time.

The problem with liberalism is that it is idealistically appealing. On its surface it presents the appearance that everyone is looking out for everyone else, and everyone cares. These are very appealing to the young impressionable eye. This is why they target these younger inexperienced kids. Of course the reality is quite different. Not allowing the horse to pull the plow because it is hard on the animal seems like an ambivalent action but then the village starves to death because no crops were grown. A little wisdom quickly shows the fallacy of the whole process unless you are too slow to learn in which case you become a lifelong Democrat who is recruited to entice the next round of unwitting youth.


24 posted on 10/15/2010 8:59:17 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (It take a village to raise an idiot.)
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